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Open Thread 6/27: Red Sox at Braves

Boston Red Sox at Atlanta Braves, Jun 27, 2009 4:10 PM EDT


Today's game will be an interesting contrast between two pitchers whose styles are complete opposites. On one side for the Red Sox is Tim Wakefield, who doesn't throw a pitch over 85mph, yet he's 9-and-3 on the year at age 42. On the other side for the Braves is the power pitcher Javier Vazquez, who is second in the league in strikeouts.

Power vs. off-speed trickery.


Current Series

Red Sox lead the series 1-0

Fri 06/26 WP: Josh Beckett ( - )
LP: Jair Jurrjens ( - )
1 - 4 loss

Boston Red Sox
@ Atlanta Braves

Saturday, Jun 27, 2009, 4:10 PM EDT
Turner Field

Tim Wakefield vs Javier Vazquez

Partly cloudy. Game time temperature around 90.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL @ our lineup

Even worse than yesterday’s.

Blanco (Automatic out #1)
Prado
Chipper
McCann
FUGA (Automatic no hustle)
Kotchman
Francoeur (Automatic out #2)
Hernandez (Automatic out #3)
Javy (Automatic out #4)

Such a shame i won’t be getting this game on FOX today. I get the Dodgers/DBacks game. Hey, maybe ill watch the Dodgers, take notes on how to build a winning team, and send it to Frank Wren!

Not to mention, the Thillies are already up 10-0 in the 5th. Heres hoping they get really hot right before they play us.

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 27, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes. Blanco, Prado, AND Hernandez? Ouchies.

by soup du jour on Jun 27, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank god FOX isn’t airing this game today, that lineup is abysmal

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d still like to see JV pitch.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

its being aired today...

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 27, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

not in texas.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

not in arizona either. i thought you meant not being aired at all.

no, it’ll be on alright. it’ll be on alll along the east coast so everyone can point and laugh at our team.

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 27, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather see Matt Young from Mississippi batting leadoff.
Young’s career minor league stats.

by fandave on Jun 27, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly believe Matt Young has a future has a fourth or fifth outfielder type in the majors…patience is hard to teach, and Young’s got i

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good news!

Our “ACE” Tommy Hanson pitches tomorrow! Thats about all i got for good news.

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 27, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

our real ace

is pitching today.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting tidbit from DOB.
Escobar is hurt, but is he hurt enough to be out again today? if given choice, he’d almost certainly be in there. But he wasn’t given choice.

Cox won’t talk about it, but I think benching him is an effort to send a signal that the immaturity is unacceptable, but in Cox’s way, avoiding throwing him under the bus by using the injury (which is real, but might not be real bad) as an excuse.

Again, Cox won’t talk about it.

But teammates and team officials are frustrated by his immaturity and wish he’d just play the game and cut out the little stuff that looks bad, particularly not being ready for the next couple of plays while pouting the other night after the E6.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

this isnt going to sound right

but, I love Cox.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he definitely needs to grow up..

i hate to say this but do you guys think he could be a cancer? i mean i know when he’s on he’s a good player along with a good hitter..but i don’t care how my bitchyness is about crappy play from francouer..atleast the guy stays positive and is a role model in character FOR THE MOST part. A crappy hitters one thing..but a cancers another. Even Ty Cobb was liked by his teammates..mostly because they weren’t the ones getting spiked when he slid, and he was too good to hate him, if he was on your team.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need Omar back if he didnt get injured I bet we would be a .500 team

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even with that error he stilled got two clutch hits and got 3 rbi so are we better with him or with our him. I say everybody shut the hell up and just let esco be esco.

Baseball is my life

by That a boy on Jun 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

ominous start...

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Serious question for the 2 people in the thread.

How young is too young?

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHA

there is an actual legal 3 year clause…if she is “underage” but within 3 years of your age, it is ok.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

that depends on the state in question.

by fandave on Jun 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to bang this girl I work with, but don’t feel like going to jail, and I have no idea how long I’d have to wait for that not to happen…so yeah, gauging various options

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is she under my number of 17?

by Cammando2317 on Jun 27, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You better wait and give her charms for her Birthday then.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

GREEN

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take your age, divide by 2 and add 7. Youre 23 right? That’s 11, we’ll call it. Adding 7 makes 18. So close.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s hold up in court… I like it.

by Cammando2317 on Jun 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, this wouldn’t be a huge issue if her sister and mother didn’t work in the same store

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My one buddy said that, and I almost threw up in my mouth. The other two are chain smokers that I’ve began to call centaurs

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish Wren would just get rid of FUGA FYF KJ and half the bullpen, then try to build a good young team for next year

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Help!

I’m stuck at work, does anybody have a game link?

by Bmacbandwagon on Jun 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Can someone please attempt to explain to me why Gregor Blanco is still in the majors?

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone just see that? When Youk got his single JUST over SS they threw up the HOME RUN animation. Dear FOX fucktards, this isn’t Fenway. The ball has to go more than 50 feet before it goes over the fence.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Gregor Blanco

Because he is sooo cute.. Like a little miniature Carlos Mencia.

by Dammit JIm on Jun 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Blanco just over the double Mendoza line.Was batting .105 before that out. Maybe below .100 now.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

sox put on a hitting display

against a solid changeup starter other nite…dancing around in box basically..moving up towards the pitch and etc.. thats basically how you have to hit this kind of crap.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Blanco – weak roller to 2B. out #1.

by fandave on Jun 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

They just showed Smoltz in the dugout. So strange.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i bet he is laughing his ass off looking at our line up.

by Dammit JIm on Jun 27, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s too scared o face us. We could trot out the FYF clone team and he still wouldn’t pitch against us.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah, fail. “o face.”

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

FYF 7th behind Kotch. Good.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know the name of the Firefox addon that blocks in-site Flash ads? I had it on the old one, and these are getting irritating

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You talking about No Script, or is it something else?

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I THINK it was Adblockplus, but I installed that 2 nights ago and didn’t notice much of a change…didn’t reinstall last night

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

NoScript pretty much blocks any flash/java type thing unless you allow it. So it would block the Flash ads for you.

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Noscript seemed to just…disable everything, including posting in game threads…adblock killed what I wanted to be killed. Thanks

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prado > KJ

or something like that, right?

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

walk. This is going to be a short day for Javy and a long day for us.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

javy doesnt look too sharp today

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

You wouldn’t be fired up about this cast

by Dammit JIm on Jun 27, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, the Red Sox lineup doesn’t have Bay or Braves Killer Nick Green.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we have Anderson, FYF, and I think i saw Billy Bob Thorton in the dugout in a Wannamaker Jersey.

by Dammit JIm on Jun 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leadoff.Walks.Kill.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

i wonder back in the day..

if there was ever anyone traded in the middle of the game.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

George Lombard was traded to the Tigers while they were here for an interleague series. He packed his stuff up and moved it to the other clubhouse. Not the same, but still funny.

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank Pujols we have Eric Karros to explain that Kotsay had to touch second on his way back to first.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

P2C

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least Fox is givin Mac credit

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

z

Big Mac walk to start us off. Let’s go GA

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

GA broke out the 9-iron for that one

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that was fruitful.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

1st pitch out
1st pitch out
1st pitch out
This shit is getting old

by BullManUGA on Jun 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Mac left on base. What’s new

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Mac seems to be the only player who wants to win on this team.

Baseball is my life

by That a boy on Jun 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuckin A, Adblock works on the ever so irritating Gamecast commercials!

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d never get online without it. Awesome add-on.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

its what happens

when there are patient hitters on the other team…

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

something i read about one time

supposedly, a batter is supposed to make the pitcher throw him a good pitch before he swings at it.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats the point of that. I thought you were supposed to swing at the first pitch all the time

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what my softball coach taught us.

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

well at least javy isnt giving up runs

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

At least we get Blanco out of the way for the 4th inning.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

thats what i get.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is just about everyone here rooting for Wakefield to get into the all-star game? According to the FOX announcers its irrefutable fact. I know I couldn’t give two shits.

by soup du jour on Jun 27, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

You are not Alone~Michael Jackson

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he has ever been to an AS game, has he?

by dlkinser86 on Jun 27, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 sb. Braves showing some team speed.

"I bought a scratch-off ticket, but then I accidentally spilled some cortizone cream on it, so it did not need to be scratched."

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 27, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, I hope it’s nothing serious with Nate. I saw him coming up limping after running down first base line last night.

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Javy with a good game and no run support whats new

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

God it’s gotta be frustrating pitching for ATL.

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

trying hard to think of something positive to say…Javy has not given up a run!

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok…at least we’re gonna clear the pitcher.

by soup du jour on Jun 27, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT AN EXCITING F’N GAME!! WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!

by Cammando2317 on Jun 27, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

This game is flying by

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m still here…but I got hamburgers on the grill…so I’m in and out

by dlkinser86 on Jun 27, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

idk

but im out soon… this blows. i cannot find one fun thing about this

by Cammando2317 on Jun 27, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obv not watching on TV

But could FUGA have had any chance at a play at the plate if his arm worked?

by Cammando2317 on Jun 27, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freakin’ Kotsay, man!

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Praado > KJ

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good lord, Bobby has the bunt on.

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

you can’t steal on a knuckle ball…don’t you know that! /sarcasm

by dlkinser86 on Jun 27, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

HE’S AWFUL, BENCH HIM!

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diory > Chipper

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

f-me.

this is lame. we are TRYING to lose. whos laughing at my " we need an adam dunn type hitter" post now?

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

there is no debating that fact

we need an “adam dunn type” but not at the adam dunn price. we cannot afford that right now.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone is affordable

except for anyone with the yanks and the sox.. it just depends on what you want to give up to get it.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if the nationals

are asking too much in return, he is not affordable. His salary is not affordable, nor is it feasable to give up a bunch of top-level prospects for him.

Dunn will not be in Atlanta. You can write that down.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

because management has no cahonas.

top level prospects? hansons good. keep him. but the farm boys are for trading! yes they are good at that level..and they all have promise..but so did FYF.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

its a risk you have to take occasionally.

or else you’ll always be mediocre. i’m not saying go stupid like the yanks.. but jesus..what the hell did we get fuga for..he’s lazy, he’s old, and he’s outright embarrassing to watch groundout.. ontop of that he’s blocking some of your “top level prospects”

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just image GA in LF

but 100x times worse at fielding. And you have Adam Dunn.

by fphjr01 on Jun 27, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah fuga has 18 hrs.

slugs 500 and has an ops of 900. sometimes you have to give up in areas to improve in other areas.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's signed for 1 year

and none of the prospects are ready, so no, he isn’t blocking any of them. He is actually swinging a good bat as of late. His D is horrible though.

Your farm guys are not just for trading.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

no there not..

but look at mclouth..how else do we get him without cutting glavine, and trading 3 guys.. and the mclouth deal was a good deal..

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

May have missed it above

Any word on seriousness of McLouth injury?

by fphjr01 on Jun 27, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

He said...

Nothing serious, just a fact of one or two days.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can get some hits off the BP!

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I can not begin to describe how bad our offense is

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

BENCH KJ, START PRADO! That’ll fix us.

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

God, we look sick.

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh watching this team is quite depressing

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m passed the point of depression and have moved towards acceptance.

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m half way there yet… crap.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm downright pissed.

i understand injuries..but this is f-ing crazy to be this crappy on offense.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is crazy but at this point in the season what can be done? we’re beyond “get a bat.” The whole lineup needs an overhaul.

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope..

infante will be back after all star break..trade fyf and some prospects for a bat.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

for who? FYF isn’t worth much in a trade. I don’t think it’s worth mortgaging the future for this lineup

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

rumor is that KC thinks he is.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You honestly believe that?

They are just trying hard to unload Jose Guillen’s 12 Mil. See if we bite.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would we want Guillen?

and yes, i believe that. They have a track record of taking our scrap heaps bc their GM worked with them back in his Atl days. He thinks FYF is a “fully developed” player.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

like who?

McLouth – solid
Yunel – solid
Chipper – solid
McCann – solid
FUGA – solid
Kotchman – solid
FYF – abysmal
KJ – abysmal right now

KJ’s numbers indicate he will turn it around. Chipper and Mac are slumping right now, but you know they will be back. Everyone else is solid. We do only need 1 bat – to replace FYF.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

McLouth – average lifetime hitter
Yunel – solid but injury prone
Chipper – solid but old
McCann – solid
FUGA – solid I’ll give this one too you
Kotchman – solid
FYF – abysmal
KJ – abysmal right now

It’s a stretch to believe one bat is going to fix this mess

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Garret Anderson is “solid” and Nate McLouth is “average”…you’re looking at the wrong stats.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuga is not solid.

i’ll let fuga slide though fyf and kj awful..prado/infante to 2nd base..trade frenchy and kj for a bat and if you have to throw in a prospect or two..DO IT!

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

what has prado done to be considered better than KJ?

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well he is like i dunno

hit in almost every game he’s played this year.. same for infante, infante before he got nailed was batting .350… kelly johnson is a horrible streak hitter God bless him, but him and frenchy are promising outs on this team.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Infante had a BABIP of I think .370. Lets not go back to sucking his dick

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

His 0-3 last night begs to differ

in fact, his 21 hitless games do too.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prado

As a starter: .268 / .322 / .420 / .742 with 3 HRs
Off the Bench: 412 / .524 / .588 / 1.112 with 0 HRs

KJ

2009 season: .218 / .289 / .367 / .655 with 5 HRs

These are KJ’s horrible funk numbers. Those are Prado’s best numbers. Give me KJ.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you’re going to trade two “awful” players for a bat? Yeah, I’m sure other GMs will line up.

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well you have to be willing to

open up shop and see who’s interested? and its like management could care f-ing less they just wanna shove mediocrity down our throat. we have awesome pitching..look at this gd game for example..1-0 in the 8th.. and were LOSING!? to a KNUCKLEBALLER!?!?!!?!?

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Javy hanging out there… BEGGING for some support.

This is (insert opinion here).

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re well on our way to having two straight 8 innings, Quality Starts.

For most teams that translates into 2 wins…

For us…

PS: I’m sorry… I’m just really #@% up right now.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

we’re 5th in the NL in team ERA and QC

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

*sigh

add another couple of weeks to his tenure…

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re not watching. It was a horrible misplay that led to Youkilis tripling

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh...

I suck at picking up sarcasm when I am not watching

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez is getting worked too hard, he shouldn’t be coming in now. I’d use Soriano instead.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Gonzo was never warming up. It was O’Flayerty and Moylan the whole time. Fox just screwed up and they don’t know it.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m having Chris Reitsma flashbacks.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry I’m not watching the game on TV. Just following it on Gameday.

But still I get some of those flashbacks.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, that’s what is all about. Sure we get no runs, but we sure play great defense.

After all, that’s the reason we have FYF, Kotchman (filthy at first) and of course, FUGA……….. oh wait.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

it wouldn't matter

if we played defense or not..we can’t f-ing score.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take it you didn’t notice my sense of “irony” (and a little bit of sarcasm too).

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

we’re 10th in the NL in total errors and 11th in fielding %

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that doesn’t take into account the extra bases we give up in the outfield on bad angles…and the multiple other dumb plays they don’t make

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its very sad when you feel that a FOX national broadcast crew is showing the Red Sox less love than Chip Caray is on a Peachtree boradcast.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

javy just looks like he’s going to go on an ugueth urbina rampage

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

our entire rotation is going to need therapy after this season is over.

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ll forget pitching during the offseason. Just begin to work those swings up to take care of business themselves.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should. Jurrjens patted him on the knee for support.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He too feels his pain.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

what i can’t believe is that despite the fact we’re so bad we’re only 4.5 games out of first.

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That 1-9 from the Phillis in the last 10 has a lot to do with that. If not, we would be like 10 games back already.

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, but

the braves should only be down prolly 1 or 2 games instead of 4.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose that means the entire NLE sucks!

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

we’re only 5.5 out of the wild card. The NL isn’t very good beside LA

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm late getting here....(fixing dinner took priority)

But had the game on in the background.

Hubby says: “We should do Javy a favor and trade him to a decent team, this is starting to be simply unfair”.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

uh oh..

may have just unfolded the secret of how to get a bat.. :-)

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, lets replace our best pitcher with a rookie who’s getting shelled left and right! Great idea.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't necessarily suggesting

javy..but he could pull in something for sure.. i like him..but sometimes you have to trade sometimes.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They showed Javy on the bench and he looked pissed, as he should!

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we have another rainout game..

we may just concede it, to keep from having the rescheduling hassle.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

never

Red Sox killer Gregor Blanco is up!

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ILLOBS..

guess what that stands for..

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

a runner in scoring position wow

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jun 27, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

embarrassing

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

“Everyday” Prado

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

And Prado swings at a ball a foot outside and weakly pops up. Awesome job. EVERYDAY STARTER.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

hes unlucky

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re looking at the wrong stats if you’re citing batting average as a barometer of a player’s success

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look up above

I already posted their offensive numbers. but go on, keep ignoring them…

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET KJ OUT OF THE LINEUP, PRADO WOULD’VE BROUGHT HIM IN!!! Oh wait.

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

ya know..

if the motherfucker would have hit a gd homer, you motherfuckers would have never said a word..but if kelly johnson would have struck out looking at 3 fastballs like he did in boston..well he’s just not hitting good.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point is that Kelly Johnson has had past success while Prado has been a mediocre hitter throughout his entire professional career when his BABIP hasn’t been as high as a kite

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t fuck my mother.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should get paid according to how they play, Maybe this would make them try harder! Or not..

by HEYJUDE on Jun 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

OH MAN WHAT A PLAY BY PRADO HE’S ALWAYS BEEN SO SUREHANDED WITH THE GLOVE

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah like last year when

kj caught that towering popup to end the game against the nationals right? what was the final score of that game?

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Prado piss in your cornflakes or something…? You’re always bashing the guy.

by get swoll yunel on Jun 27, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m fucking tired of everyone proclaiming him as THE SAVIOR when the reality of the fact is that he’s league average at his peak

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If people were proclaiming him as a “savior”, they were ill-informed and should just be ignored… the guy’s always been a nice utility guy at best.

But it seems like you rip on him every single chance you get.

by get swoll yunel on Jun 27, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You haven’t been into the BENCH KELLY JOHNSON fanpost, have you?

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh good lord

don’t even get started on that one. that was one of my “knockouts”…

that thread has solved the mystery of my profession too – i am a garbage man with no wife!

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't say that I have

I pretty much stay away from all fanposts now if they aren’t by royhobbs, cbwilk, or ejruiz.

by get swoll yunel on Jun 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats probably for the best…the thing was hazardous to my health

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we just agree

that we have no real options for second base right now?

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

No

because we have one of the top 5 second baseman in the game over the past couple of years sitting on our bench today.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if the guy isn’t hitting right now he isn’t hitting right now

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chipper and McCann arent hitting right now

so can we agree that we have no real options at 3b and C too?

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

chipper jones is a hall of famer and brian mccann is a soon to be 4 time all star….theres a big difference between them….but again I don’t want to argue about this because its been done to death

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m in phillie country and no one is crying here when j roll has gotten benched this year

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

My tissue box is still full too

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m apparently Kelly Johnson, so I used my position of power as the author of the hip new Braves blog in town to write an article defending myself

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since you're KJ

Can you get me some free tickets for the Phil’s series?

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll meet you at Tony Lukes and give you tickets in exchange for a veal parm

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin Prado wouldn’t ask for anything in return, I HOPE YOU STAY ON THE BENCH, YOU BASTARD!

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what happens when you let people with limited sabermetric knowledge on the internet.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Settle down, tiger.

I think joe was trying to make a funny.

by get swoll yunel on Jun 27, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

well its rediculous..

is kj in the dugout or is he back in the clubhouse on a laptop somewhere..big joe..are you really kj?

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, simmer down. Go onto BP and start talking about batting average and fielding percentage and see where that gets you.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You take a guy with a .300 BA and .700 OPS, I’ll take the guy with the .250 BA and .900 OPS. My team wins every time.

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

last season

and the month of may this year.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys… let’s try to get a positive Aura here see if we can score at least one run!!

Javy doesn’t deserve that lost!!

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soriano. Wow.

"I bought a scratch-off ticket, but then I accidentally spilled some cortizone cream on it, so it did not need to be scratched."

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 27, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, 1-0, bottom of the 9th, here we go!

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Chipper, BMac and FUGA…

I mean…

COME ON GUYS!!!

by jgalmonte on Jun 27, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope nobody comes on here to tell us we're being too negative again.

I may forget my manners.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding. And people wonder why royhobbs, Smoltz’s Beard & Lizziebeth don’t show up in open threads anymore

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it could be that or it could be they’ve accepted the sad reality as well. We’re just not good enough.

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason I still come here

is because I can’t watch the games out here in Texas and enjoy the updates…and the snarky-as-ever large joseph.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess some people has unreal expectations for this team.

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

look man..

i can’t help your player isn’t doing well this year.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

doubtful.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 27, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Sexy Mac...

Rooting for ya.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck.

"I bought a scratch-off ticket, but then I accidentally spilled some cortizone cream on it, so it did not need to be scratched."

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 27, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

how freakin close was that one to leaving the park?

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

So last night when I asked what was positive about the game...

I was told JJ pitched good enough to win.

Looks like same thing for tonight. The ONLY thing that we can say is that Javy once again pitched great but will lose.

It must be depressing to take the mound knowing 1 mistake and you’re doomed.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s tough to win when your team produces 3 singles

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The MLB All-Star game commercial

is ridiculously retarded.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Professional foul-offs?

"I bought a scratch-off ticket, but then I accidentally spilled some cortizone cream on it, so it did not need to be scratched."

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 27, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

pinch runner?

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

We don’t have any more OFers.

by Lennox on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sucks

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone see

Willie Aybar’s in-the-park homerun bunt?

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

yes, it was very little league

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

there had to be an error

by mdhenshaw on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 of them

overthrow by the P into RF, then by Upton to third…

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops

i was watching the game and when i was typing this i was thinking to myself “don’t say willie, don’t say willie, don’t say willie” and i typed “Willie” hahaha.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a RISP. They have us right where they want us.

"I bought a scratch-off ticket, but then I accidentally spilled some cortizone cream on it, so it did not need to be scratched."

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

FUGA

is solid.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets go Klutchman

by MatM on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

o christ kotch

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO

NO FUCKING WAY

FIRST PITCH GROUND OUT

FUCK YOU KOTCHMAN

by bigjoe on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That sucked. See y’alls around.

"I bought a scratch-off ticket, but then I accidentally spilled some cortizone cream on it, so it did not need to be scratched."

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Well that sucks

by MatM on Jun 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m also ready for a fire sale

by MatM on Jun 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

big joe no hard feelings..

we just don’t see eye to eye..and i don’t take well to being mocked or made fun of..i’ve played baseball all my life, year round, travel ball, you name it up until last year when i graduated college and i have always been the biggest fan of the braves..but management is lacking the past 2 years for sure.

by SidKotchman on Jun 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Date time

with my wife…the one that I don’t have because I am just a garbageman number lover.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

damn kj apologist

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

we lead the league in shutouts right!?

Cockchafer

by bpk228480 on Jun 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait, I just thought of something positive!

I didn’t waste 3 hours of my life watching the Braves once again FAIL.

Instead, I fixed a home cooked meal for my hubby only checking the TV intermittently.

Until they can field a team that seems to give a damn, I will find it hard to.

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 27, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a bigger tool in baseball than Papelbon?

I mean the guy is a great closer but he’s the douchebag frat boy from college who was always drunk and an asshole because he thought everyone else thought it was funny, but instead they just thought he was obnoxious. Don’t you just kind of get that feeling?

by was385 on Jun 27, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I do get that feeling about him all the time.

by soup du jour on Jun 27, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

*

another amazing outing. If your pitcher goes out and throws almost 8 innings, 120 pitches, and holds the red sox offense to one run, you’d damn well better win that game. Embarrassing.

by was385 on Jun 27, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, so, we suck. (minus the pitching, of course)

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 27, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Well thats an improvement over last year how many straight 1 run losses we have last year? Our team had a MLB record of that.

I dont think no matter who we end up gettin is gonna make much difference. We got McLouth and he has been good for us but we still have black hoes in this lineup, and i dont see how we can get better offensively without givin up a Vazquez or somethin like that THEN even if we scored 2 runs today havin traded Vaz the person in Vaz place PROLLY gives up more than 2 runs today or at least has a chance at it. Seems like it might be hopeless for this team for the year, i just logically cannot come up with a solution and say YES this will improve us and help us have a great chance at the playoffs. We just have too many holes in our lineup.

braves#1

by rockybull on Jun 27, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

logic fail

we acquired Nate without giving up Vaz. We don’t have to trade Vaz to get a bat. We don’t need a Beltran-ish bat, we need another McLouth-type bat and we will be fine.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better than I thought.

by blitzerlover on Jun 27, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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