Game 70 Recap: Yankees 0, Braves 4

by gondeee on Jun 23, 2009 10:53 PM EDT in Braves Game Recaps

It was another shutout win for the Braves -- their second in a row -- on a hot but breezy night at Turner Field. With the wind blowing in, Tommy Hanson and the Braves bullpen kept the Yankees hitters in the ballpark and away from home plate. Hanson won his third game in four starts while pitching through some wildness on the mound. He allowed 4 hits, 5 walks, and hit a batter, but he didn't allow a run; twice pitching out of a bases loaded situation. The Yankees were 0-for-8 with runners in scoring position and left 11 men on base.

Peter Moylan came on to bail Hanson out of a jam in the sixth by getting Derek Jeter to ground into an inning ending double play. Mike Gonzalez pitched a perfect eighth, and Rafael Soriano closed out the game in the ninth.

The Braves did all the scoring they needed in the third inning. With two outs, Yunel Escobar singled, then stole second and went to third on a throwing error. Chipper Jones then walked, and Brian McCann doubled off the left field wall (barely missing a homerun) to score Escobar. Garret Anderson follwed McCann with another double to score two and put the Braves up by three runs. That was all the scoring until the eighth inning when Brian McCann put a little more mustard on the ball and got it over the wall for his seventh homerun of the season to put the Braves up by a score of 4-to-nothing.

Tommy Hanson seemed to have a good batter, bad batter syndrome tonight. He'd look dominant against one guy, then he'd walk the next batter, seemingly losing his ability to locate his pitches from batter to batter. He dominated Jorge Posada, striking him out three times; Posada struck out a total of four times on the night, collecting the golden somrero.

Hanson's good work in the first inning -- getting the Yankees batters 1-2-3 -- quieted down the Yankees fans in the crowd, and the Braves good pitching all night kept them muffled. Some fans in the left field corner next to the 755 club chanted hip-hip-hooray when Brian McCann came to the plate in the eighth inning -- mocking the Yankees chant for Jorge Posada, hip-hip-Jorge. Overall, though, I observed a fairly docile Yankees crowd -- they didn't have much to cheer for tonight.

Let's see how long the Braves can keep this shutout streak going.

Final - 6.23.2009	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
New York Yankees	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	1
Atlanta Braves	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	1	X	4	7	1
WP: Tommy Hanson (3 - 0) LP: Chien-Ming Wang (0 - 6)

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Sit on it, Yankees fans. Sit on it and rotate.

…..no wait…….they would enjoy that too much. I’m obnoxious online, but Yankees fans are obnoxious in real life. Big difference.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 23, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions

this is also true

…..no wait…….they would enjoy that too much. I’m obnoxious online, but Yankees ~~fans~~ are obnoxious in real life. Big difference.

by Zeus12888 on Jun 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions

"Any fan of the Yankees is just as douchey as the actual club, itself."

-me

lol. Bump you, Cashman. Cashman…….Jesus.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 23, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Yankees fans get a bad rap but they’re really actually good fans. I’ve been to two Yankees-Braves games at the old stadium and never had any more than some playful ragging. If you sit out with the bleacher creatures, then you deserve whatever they give you. Now mets fans? They’re mostly a-holes, but Yankees fans aren’t half bad.

by was385 on Jun 24, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions

That you, Yogi?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions

This statement is very true.

Yankee/Cub/Red Sox fans that are from NY/CHI/BOS that actually travel are mostly decent people. They understand the unspoken rule of respecting another’s turf. Unfortunately, the reason we so often see degenerate baseball fans during those teams’ visits is because those three teams have the biggest bandwagons of dbaggy fans on the face of the planet, and since they have no true allegiances to anyone, they fall back on to what comes to them naturally – being dbags.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jun 24, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions

On Sportscenter the WHOLE focus was on Wang being his usual meatball self. The only mention of Hanson's name was a mistake, from a highlight when Moylan was pitching.

Pathetic.

The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb

by Tim Goad on Jun 23, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions

excuse my language

but fuck espn. this is only the 2nd start they’ve shown by him. the other was him getting lit up by the Brewers.

and then theyre all surprised when they say wow, this Hanson kid is pretty good.

of course he’s good. you just never show him. instead, you’re all over Brett Favre and Tom Brady’s nuts. Not to mention they pretty much analyze every pitch from a yankee or red sox pitcher and then slid it in at the end…oh, braves win 4-0.

pathetic. mlb network is the only decent sports channel left.

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 24, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions

ok so..

the west coast sportscenter mentioned Tommy a little bit more, but still focused solely on Wang.

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 24, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions

why does this surprise people still?

Just don’t watch.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions

thats because it's a business

and there are tons more Yankees fans out there than Braves fans

by was385 on Jun 24, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions

agreed.

the only way to really get back at them is to not watch, which makes their ratings go down and would make them change their strategies. Unfortunately, none of us are going to make enough difference because there are so many front-runners out there.

Say what you want, but ESPN runs a kick-ass business, not necessarily based on fan satisfaction, but based on finances. I don’t think they really care about a few Braves fans as much as they care about getting the “Wang sucks” buzz running amuck with all the Yanks fans and non-brave-fan yankee-haters (wow, complicated noun).

by nickfeely8 on Jun 24, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions

I stopped watching Sportscenter years ago. MLB Network is a little better, but not by much.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 24, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions

I get very little enjoyment watching those smug fools voice their opinions on baseball.

ESPECIALLY Peter Gammons (the sideways talker and self-proclaimed baseball guru). Eat it, Pete.

I just like watching the games. It gives me all the information I need to know. I’ll even watch ESPN’s Sunday night baseball with the volume muted, and I’ll play some music in the background. Good times.

Buster is ok, though.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions

I’ll even watch ESPN’s Sunday night baseball with the volume muted, and I’ll play some music in the background.

I do the same.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 24, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Speaking of Buster......from his latest blog...

A few hours before Tommy Hanson pitched out of trouble over and over again and the Braves shut out the Yankees, Atlanta GM Frank Wren spoke with optimism — and who could blame him? The Braves have been one of baseball’s worst offensive teams; their outfield production was easily the worst in the majors, prompting Wren to trade for Nate McLouth. And those Braves are four games out of first place.

“I think none of us foresaw that the (Phillies and Mets) would have,” said Wren. “We’re sitting where we thought we would be… I actually feel like over the last week, we’ve started to make some strides. The last five days, we’ve swung the bat as well as well as we have all year.”

Casey Kotchman has been swinging better of late, Wren says, but hasn’t had a lot to show for it yet. Garret Anderson ripped a two-run double on Tuesday night, and is hitting .435 over the last week. McLouth has helped the Atlanta offense, creating more opportunities for Chipper Jones, Brian McCann and others. If the Braves can muster any offensive consistency, they’ll be dangerous because of their rotation and bullpen depth.

Wren is open to adding a hitter “who is available and who fits what we need,” but like a lot of other GMs, he reports that there are few players on the market right now. And in the end, Wren’s hands could be tied because of expense. “There’s very little financial flexibility (among other teams), and for us, as well,” said Wren. (Yet another reason why the trade market will probably be a dud: It’s unclear whether even the Dodgers can take on money, as Bill Shaikin writes.)

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

no idear why only the first paragraph was itialicized.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions

you just stole my fanshot thunder

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah, sorry.

Buster always knows what’s up.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

IDK

I am not a fan of how he dreams up a good trade then calls it a trade “rumor”.

I am also not a fan of some of the “official” and “final” signings he gave Atlanta credit for in this past offseason. We all know how those ended up.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

YES. lmao

all very true. nobody is perfect, though. He is very opinionated, and I can relate to that.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions

The Furcal incident wasn't exactly the fault of any reporter.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I was thinking about Peavy

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

yes.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Peter Gammons is a HOF journalist...I cant bag on him...

I enjoy Tim Kurk.’s info, BBT is not that bad overall when you want just the info for the nights games, but their bias is dubious.

by Tim Goad on Jun 24, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions

How long can we keep this streak going?

I feel a strong start for KK coming tomorow. The Yanks can’t hit the ball out of the park very well outside of their home bandbox and their bats are cool enough not to string much together. Its a fair bet we won’t shut them out tomorow but it should be a low scoring game.

by bbxxj on Jun 23, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions

Anyone think with the last two games, Bobby might be decided to use Raffy for good in the 9th?

by Zeus12888 on Jun 24, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions

good chance

but if Utley, Howard and Ibanez are up in the 9th, you can bet he’ll use Gonzo in the 9th.

i dont care if Jeff Benett is getting our saves. as long as we’re winning ball games, who cares.

AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.

Pitch 1: In play, out(s)

by Scott Coleman on Jun 24, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions

no

I think he’ll use it by the matchups like he has most of the season.

by was385 on Jun 24, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions

ok

the way he is using his bullpen, moylan gonzo soriano more or less in that situation he will have those 3 on the dl by end of july. anybody else in the bullpen pitch??

by no way on Jun 24, 2009 2:20 AM EDT reply actions

Based on what, precisely?

The fact that none are even on pace for 80 IP?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions

pitching an inning a night isn’t going to kill anybody. And our starters have been doing great/going deep into games of late. If Moylan/Raf/Gonzo are feeling over-worked, I’m sure they would voice their opinions.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions

Hanson is coming along much faster than I expected. Yes, I expected him to do very well but his poise on the mound is awesome. Never looked fazed even with men is scoring position against the Yankees.

Right now I feel like a game pitched by Hanson, Lowe, JJ, or Vaz we should win because the pitcher isn’t going to give them much. KK has been getting better but is still fairly inconsitant IMO.

Anybody wanna retry that poll to see who we would take out of Hanson, Price and Strasberg? Price got knocked around hard last night while Tommy was busy blanking the Yankees and moving to 3-0.

by Fischerking on Jun 24, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions

Not sure I agree with

Hanson “coming along much faster”.

Having the other team go 0-8 with RISP is essentially getting lucky, and posting a 2 WHIP for the game and having 0 runs scored against you is also lucky. Finally, when the team is scoring 6.5 runs a game for you and you are 3-0 with a no decision doesn’t mean you’re coming along. The walks are way, way too high and sooner or later are going to turn into runs.

He’s obviously got talent, but lets not paint this rosier than it is. If he keeps doing exactly what he’s been doing he’s going to get batted around, big time.

by fphjr01 on Jun 24, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions

"3-0 is lucky".............lmao. It may be a bit of luck, but it is essentially TALENT.

Getting out of those jams only builds his confidence.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions

THIS.

Winning without your best stuff is an ability, too.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree

I have to agree with you. I have watched Hanson in all of his 4 starts so far. The first game he made some mistakse that were right over the plate. He hasn’t made any mistakes like that since his first starts. I think that he is trying to pitch too perfect and that is why he is walking people. But you can defn see his composure. Last night after the error that Chipper made a lot of young pitchers could have easily crumbled and had a legitimate excuse. Hanson pitched through that inning. I think that he is going to continue to get better and eventually as the walks go down he’ll pitch deeper and deeper into the game. Baring injury I really think he’ll be the ace of our staff next year. His stuff is just ridiculous and he has no problem throwing any of his 4 pitches no matter what the count is.

by michaelcooksey on Jun 24, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe it did have something to do with them not having much to cheer about, but i felt that the Yankee fans were either outnumbered by us, or just quiet. Anytime i heard people try to get some Yankee chants going, they were quickly booed out by Braves fans. At least in the upper deck. I thought the Braves were well represented last night, i can say i’m proud of the fans for showing up. It was really no comparison to the nauseating Red Sox series i went to a couple years ago. So in closing, suck it Francouer.

"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09

by 10-4 on Jun 24, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions

yes

It gave a glimmer of hope for Braves fans. Even on tv, when you heard the New York fans trying to get a rally going, they were quickly drowned out by boos.

If I was in control of the sound board, I would just fire up the “chop” any time opposing fans started to rally.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions

The sad thing is

It takes a strong contingent of opposing team fans for Braves “fans” to want to show up, just to oppose them. It’s like without something to be defiant against, the fans won’t show up. I was pleased to see the 40,000+ attendance, but it kind of makes me sad knowing that once New York and Boston head out of town, it’ll be back to the same old sub 30,000 attendance numbers of ambivalent fans who only cheer for Jeff Francoeur and Chipper Jones.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jun 24, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions

yep. It's the nature of the town.

Many, many, manyyyyyyyyyyy Atlanta sports fans are more interested in basketball and football. That’s probably all I’m allowed to say here. Truth is truth.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions

It's easy to be more interested when the games come 15% as often.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions

And the other two teams HAVE made the playoffs in the last three years after long droughts, not the other way around.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Why in the world...

would you not be allowed to say more than that? You’re talking like this is the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce blog or something.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Jun 24, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions

I just present the truth and let others draw their own conclusions.

8 )))

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions

I think I know what you are talking about

and yeah, I would steer clear of posting that too.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions

lmao. roight.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

the higher ups would be calling for my blood. I seem to always be a step away from getting banned, anyways. lmao

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

I mean, really?

Atlanta’s a very black city and black people are more into football and basketball than baseball? I don’t understand when the world became a place where people can’t just say what is is.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Our society is full of those double standards......

Think if there was a ‘WET’ (White Entertainment Television)…….that would be seen by blacks as “rascist,” and the NAACP would have a field day calling for that to be shut down.

And an “all-white” college would be “racist” as well.

Double standards galore. I work in education administration, and I can tell you……black colleges are no fun to work with.

It’s really sad too, because obviously, it’s causing seperation in our society, but they don’t see it that way at all. It’s all about them. Many of my black friends openly voice the same opinion that I do.

There. How about that?

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions

aaaand here we go...

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions

aaaaaand......there off!!!!

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

More people will agree with you than are willing to say so.

IMO, Respect is earned, not allocated – no matter what your skin color.

Chief, you may have been safer just offending the “girly-girls”….LOL. ;-)

"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~ Laurel Ulrich

by NCChopper on Jun 24, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

I just speak the truth. Every blessed word of it.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I wish I could

but in my position, i am not allowed to. I have to be PC and it drives me nuts. BUT, send me a private email and I will let loose with tirades unashamedly! lol

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Making any distinction

based solely on skin color is wrong. Whether it is to help one skin-color out over another, or to intentionally put one down over the other. It is still wrong.

People who can’t get over different skin colors are the problem – regardless (btw, irregardless is a pet peeve of mine) of their own skin color.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Fixed

A ~~"all-white"~~ “historically white” college would never be "racist."

I write for the Panthers SBN blog, and when I wrote an article about the Rooney Rule (which requires minorities be interviewed for head coaching and top exec jobs in the NFL), the very first comment was a fresh troll who decided he should call me a racist because I didn’t think it was necessary.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions

OMG

THIS is a perfect example of what I am talking about. How would you like to be the minority who is interviewed just because the team HAS to do it???

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Or Jim Haslett, who had a performance clause in his contract nullified...

which would have been just fine if he was anything other than Caucasian.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions

That's the world we live in. Simple as that.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 24, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

in that instance…i think the Rooney Rule worked in the Rams’ favor…lol

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Perhaps...

But it doesn’t make it any more fair.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Threadjack

Fantasy baseball trade…without going into detail about who else is on my roster: Torii Hunter for Adam Dunn/Matt Lidstrom.

Discuss.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jun 24, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions

Hunter's not going to keep this up.

If my BA wasn’t going to get killed (or already had been), I’d go with Dunn and hope Lindstrom can turn it around (and they really don’t have any other options.)

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions

Well, I know what league this is NOT in, so I guess I can give an honest answer – I think that whoever is getting Dunn/Lidstrom is getting the FAR better deal here.

But, you gotta look at (if you are getting the extra player) who you are going to drop from your roster to make room for Lidstrom.

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Hijack of a Hijack

I am in a 15-team, roto, 5×5 scoring mixed league. I just used the #2 waiver on Jared Washburn…was that a mistake?

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Maybe not...

It’s not like he’s never pitched well before, and with about $6 mil on his contract for the rest of the year, he could be an attractive piece for a contender.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

thanks...

i need someone to reassure me that i did not waste a #2. I rationalized it by asking myself “who else out there is going to be worth that waiver priority?”

Maybe Homer Bailey when he gets another shot, but I think he is on someone’s bench right now anyway…

"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions