AJC (Bisher): Put Chipper on the Market
Then again, this is the same Furman Bisher who wrote this.
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That 'fdgreh' dude is going to eat this up with a spoon.
LMAO
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 20, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Just when you think it can't get any worse
Bisher says something even more stupid that before…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 20, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions
That old man actually gets paid for writing this crap?
It’s a sad, sad, sad, sad world, my friends.
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jun 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
I love the rational of why it is “unthinkable” to trade him.
Bisher basically says “i know many of you do not want to trade him, because he is such a good interview”
what an old kook
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 20, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously?
Yeah, im sure the Orioles were lookin to send off Cal Ripken Jr. a few years back too.
And i heard the Yankees were trying to trade Jeter to build up the farm.
Who would write this crap?
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
Ah wow.
Well me personally I disagree with this. The Braves are a solid team going through some growing pains but all in all the team is VERY solid. Everyone just needs to step up and start doing their part and Chipper’s part out side of the offensive catalyst is a leader and those are things we need to not be trading.
HOWEVER
i can see the other side. If the Braves had been out of it at this point like 12 Games back i could see this argument coming up or maybe when he is older and his legs are ad to the oint that he cant play in the field anymore.
IF it was one of those situations i could see this being a discussion brought up although i dont think Chipper would bring in as big of a haul as most are thinking mainly because i dont see a team dealing a young dynamite offensive player for an aging one.
Just throwing this out there:
Chipper is a 10/5 player so he has the power to veto any trade he wants.
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
I am pretty sure the Braves do not give no-trade clauses. Have not for a while.
"Here comes Bream! Here's the throw to the plate! He is...safe! Braves win! Braves win! Braves win! Braves win!...Braves win!"
Sorry, posted before I was finished…
You are correct though, he is 10/5. Furman should have known both of these facts (no no-trades, and 10/5 rule). He is just so out-of-touch.
I could see how writing a column about trading Chipper might draw attention. But at least make a sound argument.
"Here comes Bream! Here's the throw to the plate! He is...safe! Braves win! Braves win! Braves win! Braves win!...Braves win!"
Irrelevant. It's an MLB rule.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...how dare MLB reward veterans for their loyalty to an organization.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What Bisher doesn’t acknowledge is that there’s literally NO ONE to replace Chipper. If Heyward or Freeman were a 3B, this would make sense. But his contract is manageable, he’s as good as he’s ever been, and this team team is set to get a lot better and younger over the next 2 years. His presence will be crucial to the development of those young players.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
Theoretically, a replacement could be had as part of a trade...
And if we’re giving up, it won’t hurt us that bad to play Prado and/or Infante (or even Norton, for that matter) at 3B.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 21, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Longterm, I say move McCann to third...
But that’s not what this was even addressing.
Bisher sucks, he needs to get Parkinson’s and give me his cushy job. He doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
You know, I agree Bisher is a washed up has been whose thoughts and writings are usually worthless, but damn, damn, damn, I wish everybody would stop with the death and disease wishes.
e.g, Francoeur chases down a flyball and xxx999 posts, “too bad he didn’t just have a cardiac explosion with all that strenous effort”.
It is too much, too far in my view, unfunny and worse.
Getting sick of...
people comparing Chipper to Glavine and Smoltz, (the people comparing them were responding to the actual article, not on here), because let’s face it, Glavine and Smoltz left us for more money when we did offer them contracts the same year they left, and Chipper takes pay cuts in order to help the team, is there even the slightest comparison besides the fact they were all on the same team in the ’90s?
Thank you.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jun 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
This isn't the first time I have heard this
But Bisher is insane, and his logic is flawed. He doesn’t realize that the Braves farm was ranked in the top 5 even after the Tex trade, for instance. He talks about how the Braves have not gotten anything out of the farm for years, but here it is Mr. Bisher:
McCann
Escobar
Hanson
KJ
Prado
Basically, half the Braves young core.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jun 22, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
Also
Chipper has 10-5 Rights. No doubt he would veto any trade.
by Andy Braves Fan on Jun 22, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone read his article on our farm system?
He used words like “empty” and “depleted” and made it sound as though we had nothing but straw bales in uniform all the way down the system. I’m basically at the point where I read a Bischer article whenever I want to be frustrated and irritated. He seemed to think the Tex deal cleaned us out entirely, forgetting the fact that we still have two of the games top ten prospects (Hanson/Heyward) and PLENTY more help coming lower on the farm. He may as well write an article on why the Pirates shouldn’t spend so much money on winning.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jun 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
Which article?
He has written two such articles in the past few months, or roughly, 2 of his last 4 articles on the Braves have been about our “depleted” farm system.
In case you were wondering, the other two were about how Diaz just keeps on hitting and about trading Chipper Jones.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 23, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
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