CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE - AKA Rosterbate here, and only here.
by royhobbs on Jun 19, 2009 9:16 AM EDT
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How quickly we forget when not so aptly reminded anywhere on the front page. Okay, it's getting to the point again, since our beloved Braves are currently playing well below expectations, that the "THIS and ONLY THIS is how we're going to fix them" rosterbatory posts and hypotheses(es) are starting to over saturate the FanPosts section. Some ideas, better than others, but I'm not going to lie, many have my face hitting the desk like a cocaine addict.
Since the old one got bumped off the front page by picture posts and why Chipper Jones is great, let us try this again:
ROSTERBATE HERE AND ONLY HERE.
(rosterbate = "write out your own hypothetical fixes," to those not in the know)
I do not care if you write out your own 40-man rosters or hell, even organizational depth charts. Go nuts with the batting orders that have Adam Dunn batting lead-off, and Magglio Ordoñez whom we got for Freddie Freeman/Francoeur/Free cash batting clean-up. As long as it stays in here, you're okay. Just keep in mind that you are at the mercy of other TCers who may or may not agree with you and will certainly let you know when you're wrong in probably the most blunt, unplesasantly, bitingly true words they can pull from their literary repotoire. So if you don't like it when people disagree with you, either don't post, or get ready to defend, because people flagging trolls/inappropriate because of a discrepancy of opinion is getting really old now. And since so few people actually like to verbalize agreement with an opinion, utilize the rec buttons to show your quiet, anonymous support for a comment you like, so that the user who wrote the comment knows that they're not alone in their opinion.
And should you decide to go nuts and ignore this post and put up rosterbatory posts anyway, they will get deleted. Whether you get an explanation (warning) or not to why is completely up to whether or not if yondaime4, gondeee or myself feel like doing it. Rosterbatory comments in threads, if not properly justified or relevant also risk deletion without explanation.
In case I missed anything else, here are the previous rules, written by yondaime4:
So here is what will be done. If you post something that coudl easily be commented into another existing post (I.E. rosterbating) then I or royhobbs will summarily delete it and warn you. (Understand also that a warning isn't always us being a dick, sometimes I just use to inform you why I did something ebcause it gives you a message when you log on the site. So if I delete your post and warn you just understand that I am trying to keep things smooth and concise in the fanposts).
If you FanPost a sarcastic or insulting post that is directed at someone else, you are probably doing the same thing that we all get annoyed at them for so your post will be summarily deleted and you will be warned (probably in a dickish fashion).
If you post something without enough words and then use some stupid filler to make up 75 words then you shouldn't be posting in the first place. It isn't hard to put 75 words in a post. Hell each one of my paragraphs here probably has 75. So you know what will happen with these kinds of posts? They will be summarily deleted and you will be warned (in a dickish fashion).
I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but let's face it - way more often than not, there are users who are voicing complaint over the incessant uneducated comments, arguing, and verbal stabs at other users. And yes, I'm aware that this is the internet, and this kind of behavior is largely unavoidable, but at least if it's acknowledged and disclaimed, nobody can really justifiably complain, when it's actually enforced.
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Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 19, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I think we should trade for Cole Hammels and Shane Victorino. Now before people jump all over me, here me out.
We could give Philly FYF (they need a new OF since Ibanez went down) and Medlen.
Medlen will replace Hammels in their rotation (he could easily be the best SP they have now). We get Victorino to play RF and they get FYF.
Make it happen, FW!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 19, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Throw in Utley for KJ and I bet they'd be on it like A-Rod on Palin's daughter
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jun 19, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only
if we get Utley in return.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 19, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want philly to pay Utleys contract too
if they wont, NO DEAL HOWIE!
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 19, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
If any other team bloggers came in here and started making trade offers for McCann, would you even consider a package that weak? Come on, be real, the Phillies will not give up their ace, think before you post.
by BravesRaleigh on Jun 20, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do believe he was being sarcastic
by drumzalicious on Jun 20, 2009 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one would hope
that this was evident…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 20, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them
down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason."
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Jun 20, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
+infinity!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 20, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what it would take...
To pry Marcus Thames away from the Detroit Tigers. He is exactly what we need… a big-hitting right-handed bat who can play either corner outfield position. And he really seems poised to break-out this year. His BA is up, as is his OBP. Given full-time work, he could easily provide 30+ HRs and probably 100+ RBIs.
Since he isn’t a starter, we might not have to break the bank to get him. Maybe build a deal around either Jojo or Medlen, and throw in Frenchy? I don’t know… but I’d love to get this guy in a Braves uniform.
by Chopaholic on Jun 19, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction...
Thames might be a starter now… so it might cost more to bring him to ATL.
by Chopaholic on Jun 19, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
coughkunis>bellcough
Your opinion doesn’t count, remember?
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jun 19, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
What would it take for the Cardinals to trade Pujols?
Oh, Bobby.
by sdp on Jun 19, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why add Frenchy, Haithcock alone is worth more then FYF and Haithcock combined. Now Randy Gress and Haithcock is an appealing package, it could probably net Pujols and Wainwright.
hindsight is 20-13 just like Ted William actual vision- ken tremendous
by heapofoatmeal on Jun 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading Kelly Johnson to San Diego for David Eckstein would be a huge improvement.
by bigjoe on Jun 19, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how?
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 19, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scrappiness. Clutchiness. PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE.
by bigjoe on Jun 19, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
especially in regards to experience. Mccann has played in 5, Kotch in a few (wasn’t he a rookie when the Angels won in 05?), KJ and esco have none, Chipper and GA have 3930830 games, Nate has none and Frenchy has 5. Lowe has experience and Javy has a little. None of our bullpen pitchers do however. Yikes
This is all assuming we make the damn playoffs. ha
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 19, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are some people saying we should get Delmon Young for FYF?
The dude doesnt have an XBH this year. not one! no way we deal Frenchy for him
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 19, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he has 6 XBH this year. i don’t know who you were looking at.
by yondaime4 on Jun 20, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we can all agree that 6XBH in 176 ABs pretty much is the equivalent of 0… or at the very least it is sufficiently low so we can all agree that it warrants those who suggest we acquire D Young… to be kicked
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Jul 1, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know how much payroll space FW has?
Also, how many tradable prospects (i.e., prospects other than Hanson, Medlen, Freeman, and Heyward) do the Braves have?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 19, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i’m pretty sure Wren has no more than $500,000 to spend.
And technically, any “prospect” is tradeable, but how many would teams want that aren’t untouchable? Uhhh, maybe 3 or 4?
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 19, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. I didn't know it was that bad...
That eliminates Holliday, DeRo, Dunn, Kearns, Willingham, etc.
Unless FW can unload Frenchy’s salary (who would want him?), he really can’t get much of a COF bat.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 19, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
They did save some money during the Glavine/McLouth day. Should have opened up at least a million.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 19, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they purchased Barbaro’s contract tho. Thats like 375k right?
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 19, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so...
I think he gets the prorated amount of that, which ain’t much over the course of the week.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the minimum is actually 400K, which works out to about 15,667 a week.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Jun 20, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haithcock, who is that? Tom Hanson?
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jun 20, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Use the search bar to find the comments about her...
It’s probably easier than trying to find somebody to explain it.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a serious note, send Kris Medlen, Frenchy, and KJ for Marcus Thames and Adam Everett
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jun 20, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why
would they do that? Get a worse backup outfielder than what they have, a worse infielder than what they have, and Kris Medlen? They’re pitching staff is fine, it would be stupid for them to do that. Please think about the other team’s needs that you think we’ll trade with.
by BravesRaleigh on Jun 20, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys see that Magglio got benched? Too bad we cant afford him
In all seriousness i think we should stand pact. Our team has the ability to be good i think the problem over the last couple of weeks had been McLouth slumping. when your lead off hitter is slumping and not getting on base it kinda throws off everything. Plus the pitch choices had been bad and i believe Bobby got on them about it.
Hopefully we will turn things around we have been playing good these last few games so hopefully it all pans out for the better.
HOWEVER:
If the All-Star Break comes and we are still sucking TRADE EM ALL!!! lol
No Seriously.
by drumzalicious on Jun 20, 2009 3:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
isn't the phrase
“stand pat”?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 20, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF we are still..
In contention by the TD we should try to get F. Lopez from the Dback!! Send Norton packing, Send FYF for acouple pack of smokes and a case of beer and put Blanco/Diaz/Lopez in RF. I know Lopez only played very few games in RF but we could put him LF and put GA as the LH bat on the Bench. In anycase, this would give the braves a true legit leadoff guy and move everyone else down in the lineup. Chipper would be the Cleanup hitter since the chances the braves to get a RH/COF #4 hitters that is with in the budget and prospects that would be needed to give up are very small. With Lopez .353 OBP to get on base infront of Esco/NM/Chip/Mac would give more enough RBI opportunities to score more runs effectively. The guy is Switch hittier that can play SS/2B/LF and RF in pinch so we could effective put KJ on the block with Prado as solid option. The next best thing for this team is if we can’t get a solid affordable RF/LF RH power potential hitter than we should add the another leadoff guy which than we could take advantage of NM’s power to drive in more runs hitting at the #3 spot.
F.Lopez 2B
Esco/Kotchman
NM CF
Chip 3B
Mac C
Kotchman/Esco
GA/Diaz/Lopez/KJ LF
Diaz/Blanco/Lopez RF
This guy should much cheaper than any other options in looking for a power hitting corner OFer and could be the spark plug this team needs to had pressure from the top of the lineup. Addition by subtraction with FYF being shipped with lopez adding the another solid OBP guy in the front of NM/Chip/Mac would be the best thing that this team could do right now to make push towards OCT baseball.
by Hanson-Ace on Jun 20, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chipper HATES hitting cleanup.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we make any move at the Trade Deadline im sure it would be for more power.
The Braves would love a Jason Bay type or someone along those lines.
If the guys in AAA are still holding up good maybe we will see a promotion of one of those reliever to take Gonzo’s place or something. Then trade Gonzo for a Bat. Possibly Acosta + Gonzo for Swisher?
May be a bit much im not sure.
The truth of the matter is its hard to speculate what will happen at the TD until we are closer because a lot of things could change. FYF could revert to his ways at the beginning of the year with a lot of clutch hits. KJ could bounce back or they could both go back down hill.
same thing for our pitching. we talk about trading one of our relievers but if gonzo starts sucking we cant trade him for as big of a return and we wouldnt trade soriano because he would then be the closer.
I will say that if we trade for something now i think it should be a reliever. there is to much inconsistency in our Bullpen with Acosta, Bennett, Medlen, and Moylan.
Moylan has an excuse of still coming back from surgery, Medlen as a rookie but the problem is we cant afford to have 4 relievers going out there in which we dont know what side of them we are going to get.
for that i say lets either call up some arms or trade for some. Pref. another lefty and another shut em down type righty. It would be awesome to get Houston Street somehow but i know he is going to cost . . a lot!
by drumzalicious on Jun 20, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Problems is
That 1/2 dozen other teams are looking for a RH powerhitter to so it will make that much more difficult to be the highest bidding in order for us to win the trade. Translation we will have to OVERPAY in terms of prospects which I don’t think that FW is willing to let go of one of Heyward/Freeman in order to get a bat. Because Gonzo + AAA/AA prospects won’t get us much that will help this team this year. Regardless if Chipper HATES hitting cleaup and see that this is the only way to improve this team this year he be more than willing to do that for the team which IMO is more plausible than trading for holliday type bat at this point . There are simply to many team that they think they are still in the hunt so more than likely if any deal occurs it will be at the deadline. Otherwise we should hold on to what we got outside dumping FYF and sell the moveable parts to retool this team at 2B/LForRF for a run in 10’.
by Hanson-Ace on Jun 20, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, then why doesn't he hit there instead of McCann?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean when we had Nate in the #3 Spot he was hitting cleanup but the Offense was still slacking so Bobby put Nate in lead off. Me personally i loved them pitching around Chipper and Nate stealing but its whatever =^)
by drumzalicious on Jun 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because we have no one that is a better option at leadoff than NM right now…If we had legit leadoff guy than NM would be hitting #3 with Chipper at 4. But right now there is no one on the team that can lead off effectively so you keep chipper at 3 because he is more productive there but if we are in a situation much like when we had Vinny Castilla when he batted 3 and chipper 4. This would be the similiar situation in maximizing the lineup by having another proven leadoff guy in FLopez with Esco/Kotchman,NM,Chip/Mac moved down in the lineup and we can give NM/Chip/Mac more RBI opportunities which IMO would be a better situation than trying to depend on Prado/DIaz/GA or anyone else to be a cleanup hitter which will more than likely turn less productive than having Chipper in 4 hole. This would be a Temp fix for this year till we can address this next off season.
There is no easy answer here with multiple holes in this line up but you have to be realistic and honest with yourself on what we could actually trade for this year to right this offensive ship to be more productive. Unless FW unloads TOP end prospects for a Holliday type bat we are NOT getting a cleanup hitter. Leadoff guy would be the next logical step if a cleauphitter is not possible and give the guy more opportunities to drive runs. Alot these issue will have to be addressed next off season via FA/trade market but teams right now arem’t willing to give up powerhitting cleaup guys when there are so many teams on the fence at this point of the season. FLopez is more a viable option in terms of $$ and prospects be giving up to get him than anything else out there. Thinking outside the box with lopez maybe a way that we could produce more runs but I could be wrong.
by Hanson-Ace on Jun 20, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with Lopez is that he is a FA and i personally am against us getting a Rental. If we could sign him to an Extension that would be great but we have already given up a ton of prospects this year and need to hold only give up more if its a situation where we are retaining the person for at least 3-4 years.
by drumzalicious on Jun 20, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a Frenchy + Prospects for Dejesus and he could be leading off… Something tells me that FW will not get a RH OF that is cleanup hitter. There are just too many team wanting that need right now and so few team willing to trade for that type of hitter. This will clear up more once more team get OFF the fence in being contender rather pretenders. We have a better chance on getting a 5/6 top hitting guy but what kind of upgrade are we talking about when we can’t Add any significant $$ to the budget this year. It will be hard to imagine that we could get anyone close to a #4 hitter at 3M or less that would be be great upgrade to produce more runs. All I am saying that if we can’t a legit big bat than we should get a legit leadoff guy and let it ride for the rest of the year. Than next off season we can address 2B/LF/RF in the off season.
by Hanson-Ace on Jun 21, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Soria? we dont have a closer for the next few years
FYF + Medlen + Acosta?
by drumzalicious on Jun 21, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"we had Vinny Castilla when he batted 3..."
…sure, aside from the fact that Castilla never hit higher in the lineup than 6th for us.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 20, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember, kids…don’t ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
for emphasis
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Jul 1, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could we possibly work a deal out to get Nelson Cruz ?
by princecharming on Jun 20, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure the first place Rangers are just aching to trade their best outfielder.
by bigjoe on Jun 21, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t you think a package of KJ, FYF and JoJo could get him?
It helps the rangers by giving them a backup 2b/OF in KJ. They get someone who could immediately soften the loss of Cruz in FYF and JoJo could help their pitching.
It helps both teams.
Win-Win!!!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 21, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL now you’re getting the hang of it
by bigjoe on Jun 21, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't think of any player we couldn't get for KJ, FYF & Jo Jo
it would be an instant boost to the franchise in any city. Ba-zing!
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jun 21, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t they need something we have an abundance of right now , ‘starting pitching’ ? Obviously we’d have to sacrifice something to get something . If we can gain a run every 2 or 3 games and only give up a run every 5 games by a fill in starter , that would still be an impovement , right ?
by princecharming on Jun 21, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me get this straight…. ur advocating that Nelson Cruz is worth between 324 and 486 runs per season… cause that sure seems like a lot. Seeing as Pujols (who according to recent research [and a ESPN commercial] is not actually a human being, but rather is some kind of android who was sent here to punish baseballs) is only worth about 90 runs a season
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Jul 1, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your math's a bit off...
One run every two games would be 81, one every three would be 54.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why the Phillies havent targeted Doug Davis, they need a starter and he is pitching great this season.
by drumzalicious on Jun 21, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Braves should try to trade for Eric Byrnes from Arizona. He’s such a gamer, and is so scrappy and gritty…its just what this team needs. He’s got heart like no one else!
by bigjoe on Jun 21, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he also makes just under 12 million dollars a year too. I think that is a little too much.
by dlkinser86 on Jun 21, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vazquez for Byrnes straight up. Vazquez isn’t a big game performer, Byrnes is the clutchiest of clutch players in the league!
by bigjoe on Jun 21, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS!
he also has such determination and all of the intangibles. That guy just knows how to win and is a true winner!
Hell, I’d be willing to throw in Yunel and Vasquez for Byrnes and a pitching prospect.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doug Davis. He beat CANCER, man. You can’t get more clutchy than that
by bigjoe on Jun 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
touche’
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
If KJ has been placed on the block. Seeing the teams lack of patience with Frenchy i wonder if they have explored getting rid of KJ as well.
by drumzalicious on Jun 22, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LACK OF PATIENCE? I really, REALLY hope you're kidding.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 22, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im referring to the fact that last year they were more along the lines of trying to wait for him to work it out. this year they immediately went to seeing what they could get in a trade for him.
by drumzalicious on Jun 22, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think, say, they've gotten tired of waiting after a year and a half?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 22, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just seen on ESPNs sight that KC is trying to work with Atlanta to do a Frenchy for Guillen deal . That it is currently in the works . I’m too lazy to look , does anyone know how Jose Guillen is doing this year ? Is he even worth getting ?
by princecharming on Jun 22, 2009 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To your two questions:
1. Terribly, and at $12 mil
2. No.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 22, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.266 .353 .422 line
6 2B’s
8 HR’s
33 RBI’s
32 Ks
21 Walks
He isnt doing BAD but he isnt doing Great either. His production is def not warranting a 12 Mil Price tag. Plus all i hear is negative stuff about his DEF which is something i personally have not witnessed.
If we are indeed getting an OF we either need one in more of the mold of a Lead Off Hitter or one thats dynamite with the bat.
Wonder if we could fleece the Tigers again for Maggs his .273/.347/.343 line is slightly better than FYF (def the OBP) and has a higher chance of improving before the end of the season.
by drumzalicious on Jun 22, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool thanks . i didn’t think he was doing that good . he’s definitely still not worth $12 million though . about his defence , all i know is that he does or did at one time have a gun for an arm . and i watched something on Maggs earlier this afternoon . he’s having major issues with his swing and stance : slower bat speed than the last few years and keeping his right arm tighter with his body in his stance , according to the guys o baseball tonight on espn. not saying that he can’t fix that , but he’s having problems like frenchy.
by princecharming on Jun 22, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one is having problems liek FYF
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Jul 1, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would we manage to fleece a team for a player with a salary in the range of 17 mill, with a vesting option for around the same amount next time, and who isn’t even producing at replacement level?
by bigjoe on Jun 22, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was saying for us to see about possibly doing some kind of swap.
We give them Frenchy + some others
They give us Maggs and eat most if not all the contract. At least paying 10 mil of it this year and the vesting option.
He has a higher chance of turning back around into a Power Hitter than Frenchy. heck even now his numbers are better than Frenchy’s
by drumzalicious on Jun 22, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of trading Frenchy to KC but not for JoseG
I would prefer to get a RP of moderate value (we are obviously not getting Soria unless we throw in a major prospect.)
Juan Cruz is an intruging name to me as he has a salary lower but comparable to Frenchy’s and may have just as much trade value. He has stuggled this year as he has a 5.46ERA but throws heat and can still shut down righties (.654 OPS) and if he could only lower is walks to near career levels his ERA would look much better. He could be a solid 7th man righty specialist. (Insert another 7-8inning reliever here if you don’t like Cruz)
In this scenario I would like to see Diaz moved to RF where his glove would play and his arm would be just barely adequate enough (6.0 UZR/150 career in RF) to allow his bat to stay in the lineup for a virtually free upgrade in RF. He is quietly putting up a nice season hitting .274/.345/.427 without super drastic L/R splits. Because GA cannot play everyday and Diaz shouldn’t always face righties Blanco should get regular starts against tough righties in order to get some walks and turn the lineup over in from the 8th spot.
The good parts about this scenario would be that we could carry another good RP and relieve some of the stress on our relievers. With Frenchy gone and Cruz in the pen Burke could be called up to replace Diory as the INF and Blanco (who would be playing more regularly) as the 4th outfielder. This would be a marginal OF upgrade and a good depth upgrade to the pen without any loss of prospects or increased payroll. This would allow us to wait and see if Schafer has his wrist healthy and swing back enough to come back and contribute everyday.
The ultimate realization of this plan would be
LF: Anderson (heating up with an .812 OPS in the last 28 days)
CF: McLouth (Solid: speed with an .814 OPS in ’09)
RF: Schafer/Diaz/Blanco (hope and pray that one of these guys can post a plus .800 OPS and/or add a speed/power element to RF. At any rate any one of these guys would be a free upgrade at RF)
Added depth and talent to the pen and hopefully allowing Bennett to be a swingman/low leverage reliever where he IS valuable.
NO loss of prospects or strain on salary.
by bbxxj on Jun 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
someone needs a new box of Kleenex after that one…
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 22, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just giving a longwinded explaination of why Frenchy for reliever would be a good idea. Thats all.
by bbxxj on Jun 22, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know…I just thought it was a really long post in the rosterbation thread.
I am just busting your balls.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 22, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reply Fail
I suck at life.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 22, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It did feel good to let it all out though…
by bbxxj on Jun 22, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet!
You cant hold stuff like that in for too long. It is unhealthy.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 22, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Applause.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jun 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Arizona is going into Sell Mode
on MLBTR and the Diamondbacks website that the GM has hinted at the fact that the team could go into sell mode of their veterans in contract years. Davis, Garland, and Lopez as the most likely possibilities.
What do you guys think about Lopez? Should we ship off KJ in a package for him?
Also wonder if we will see Davis/Garland in a Phillies/Mets uniform. Although the Brewers will prob be all over them as well.
Figure if we could acquire Lopez would be pretty nice leading off (.352 OBP) only thing is 50 K’s to 22 Walks.
Then what do you do with McLouth? Bat him 2nd or 3rd?
by drumzalicious on Jun 23, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd bat him
2, 3 or 5 depending on your feelings about having a C as your cleanup or Chipper’s feelings about hitting cleanup.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 23, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Chip said earlier in the year that he didnt really want to but that he would do it if thats what Bobby asks of him.
im also not entirely convinced that he would serve as a great cleanup hitter i guess that leaves him in the #2 spot.
Lopez 2B
McLouth CF
Chip 3B
Mac C
GA/Diaz LF
Esco SS
Kotch 1B
FYF RF
by drumzalicious on Jun 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lopez 2B
McLouth CF
Chip 3B
Mac C
GA/Diaz LF
Esco SS
Kotch 1B
FYF Anyone else RF
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d actually put Kotch higher:
Lopez
McLouth
Chip
Mac
Kotch
GA/Diaz
Esco
whatever lame excuse we have for RF
by GoBravesNY on Jun 23, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Blanco?
I think this is probably more worthy of a fanpost, but in an effort to not offend 1 or 2 people who think that any post regarding personnel and rosters should be considered Rosterbation, I am going to post this here (where it is far less likely to be read).
Why do we necessarily need to trade for a new RF (or LF for that matter, but I’d rather have FUGA than FYF at this point)?
We have a viable option in AAA that could produce at least at the FYF level, not to mention play superior defense to anyone we currently have in our OF. Gregg White could roam around CF for us and push Nate over to RF.
This prevents a trade, and at least puts a band-aid on the bleeding wound that is our OF production/defense.
What say ye?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 23, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They know the guy pretty well, and they still won't give him a shot...
So what would make them do so in the future?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYF’s OBP (or lack there of)
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean...
That’s been pretty much a constant.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemme know when...
Blanco gets the ball out of the infield this year.
by BravesRaleigh on Jun 24, 2009 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he gets an XBH before Frenchy has a neutral K:BB ratio or an OBP above .333 or an OPS above .650
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neutral K:BB ratio?
That’s asking a lot from any player.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neutral is too much…but close to neutral (IE, Brian McCann-ish) would be nice. And btw, if FYF just went up there and didn’t chase bad pitches trying to do too much with them, I guarantee he would be nearly neutral in his ratio.
Just remember – 3 breaking balls away and he sits.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
clarification:
by “close to neutral” i mean less than 2:1.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...that's way more reasonable.
The only guys who are 1:1 are the elite of MLB hitters.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 24, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt say i agreed
just said interesting lol
by drumzalicious on Jun 24, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a fan. Blanco has struggled this year and has zero power (hasn’t ever displayed it, either).
And if you’re referring to me about the being offended about you posting this as a fanpost, I couldn’t care less.
by soup du jour on Jun 24, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammel???
The post of Hart had me thinking is there any way we could get Gamel instead?
He could play a corner of spot in the short term, as well as be a long term replacement for Chipper. He would obviously cost more than Hart, but could either Vasquez (really wouldn;t want to move him), or a group of other pitchers (Reyes, Morton, ??? )and a prospect not in the Freeman, Hanson, or Heyward list work?
by Rocky1013 on Jun 24, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Morton
is gone. He is in Pitt now.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 24, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh? Milwaukee has stated they’re not going to move Gamel at all, and it doesn’t make sense to get him unless we’re selling (which isn’t in our current plans).
by soup du jour on Jun 24, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wanna put Gamel in the outfield? Thats gonna end up worse than the mannequin with a glove duct taped to its head
by bigjoe on Jun 24, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you! The kid is a butcher in the field. He’d be a great DH except he doesn’t have any power.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Jun 25, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he had some ham, he could have some ham and eggs, if he had some eggs.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jun 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do u say he has no power?…. his stats appear to suggest otherwise.
Im not being an ass. I assume you hve seen him in person (based on the fact that u have seen everyone in person). he has posted a pretty solid ISO and SLG throughout his minor league career
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Jul 1, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I saw him last year. He’s a hell of a hitter, and I think he’ll definitely be able to produce in the majors, but I’m not seeing the kind of power that goes with being a corner IF/OF or a DH. I could be completely wrong, but I just didn’t see anything powerful about him. He’s 23 and has some room to fill out, but while he hit a few homers in the minors (topping out at 20 last year) he never really dominated. I think those homer numbers will go down and he’ll need to hit a lot of double (like 40+) to begin to justify being at a corner.
Really, if he could play 2B he’d become a very special player, but, again, he’s a total butcher in the field.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Jul 1, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Rios
Just read this article and it got me thinking? Rios is under control until 2015 but he is quite pricey. I don’t think he is the stud power hitter we need but he’s an upgrade and also solidifies the outfield for 2010 and beyond. Rios, McClouth, and Schafer in the Outfield is not a bad thing. The real unknown is what the Jays would want in return? I don’t see it being absolutely huge because they are trying to dump his salary for Halladay next year.
Maybe Gonzalez and Frenchy straight up.
by Charmin519 on Jun 29, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Not Gonzo but more like Kala Ka’aihue. Of course, if we know were not going to resign either Gonzo or Soriano we should try to restock our farm system for the off season this year.
by Charmin519 on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The less we give them in terms of players...
The more of that wicked contract we have to assume. Given we have virtually no payroll wiggle room, I just don’t see that working out.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 29, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats why I suggested gonzo and frenchy their salaries more than cover his contract this year
We also cover his salary and have some left over with either vazquez or hudson leaving next year. So maybe you don’t see it happening but finances is not the issue. Jays would want a OF in return and are also looking to dump either rios or wells. So…………… the makings of a trade are there. Will it happen???? Probably not but it’s more plausible then you let off.
by Charmin519 on Jun 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also wouldn't cost much in prospects. Which serves our purpose. Also he's a RH.
Also he will still be cheaper than Holliday or BAY and they will both command 4 years minimum. You basically in the same boat either way you go.
by Charmin519 on Jun 29, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think he's a guy who'll be worth $12 mil in two years?
Bay and Holliday are far better players who have more proven track records. And I don’t know anybody who legitimately thinks we have a shot at them, so don’t like it’s an either or proposition.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is interesting…I can totally see Rios being a better player than Holliday (look at his Home/Away splits from Coors Field – he is league average), and given the nature of the contracts that have been handed out in the recent years, Rios would totally be worth $12M, IMO.
I would LOVE to get me some Bay, but not if it means parting with any of our SP – which it more than likely does. I guess we can just consider Bay the one who got away…oh, what could have been!
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point
However, I do see him worth the money in two years. He will not be a liability in RF where he would play, he adds speed, average, and power to the lineup. I think most legit OF options will be in the 8-12 million range and Rios gives us options in the future with his contract. It’s a big contract but so was Kawakami and Lowe’s and I don’t think either will be worth the money at the end of their contract. All long term contracts are a gamble and Rios fits our needs in most circumstances. He’s not perfect but there is a circumstantial fit there. He is expensive but as stated before, most options will be expensive or they will cost a fortune in a trade.
by Charmin519 on Jul 3, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Indians Firesale
What would it take to get Sizemore.
Schafer + Cody Johnson as a start?
What else.
by drumzalicious on Jun 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right
We give them a whole unproven OF for one proven OF’er.
It would be nice if we did somehow get our hands on him tho.
by drumzalicious on Jun 30, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other news
I want to win the pick-5 lotto.
:)
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
i think starting with Schafer, Medlen, and Cody Johnson wouldnt be to bad.
that would give us Sizemore and McLouth till 2012. Next year we could utilize Diaz in LF full time and call it a day
by drumzalicious on Jun 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me, Cody Johnson shouldn’t prevent us from making any trade. We have Freeman for 1B of the future.
Medlen also doesn’t seem to fit into the future plans much, if at all. So, he is fairly expendable too.
This comes down to “will I be willing to trade a great prospect for a great player?”
That answer is a resounding YES!
The real question is: would Cleveland be willing to trade a great player for a great prospect and change?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 30, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a reason you stock up on good prospects. One, for the ability to fill holes in your MLB roster. But, when your team is close to being really good, you trade a few to get that guy you really need. The Braves are very close to that point.
by wcubmac on Jun 30, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think Sizemore would be a great addition and one that wouldnt make us miss any of those guys.
They all could be something special but we have so much talent in our lower minors that they have become expendable especially in the pitching department.
by drumzalicious on Jun 30, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grady Sizemore would be a good addition to the team? No shit…I’m borderline on him myself.
by bigjoe on Jun 30, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jul 1, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was asking if your borderline on trying to acquire him or borderline as to how good of a player he is or something else.
by drumzalicious on Jul 1, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the point of his facepalm…he was being sarcastic when he said that he was borderline on him.
It is like asking someone if they would like a Bently…the answer will always be “HELL YES!”
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 1, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just provided a picture, im a demotivational picture fan.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jul 1, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a shame we couldn’t get Nyjer Morgan.
by bigjoe on Jun 30, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To play where, precisely?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
what is Washington thinking???
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That they were tired of his bullshit and waiting on him?
They’ve specifically looking to improve their OF defense, and Morgan’s a solid defender.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does he help them though?
That is what I don’t understand. They are deep in the OF and weak in SP. Why bring in another OF when they are 17 games out?
This move baffles me.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because while his upside is limited...
He plays great defense and there are far worse hitters in the majors. Also, I think Burnett is more of a legit MLB SP option than Hanrahan.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re deep in the OF but none of those guys are good outfielders.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Jun 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get that
but it isnt like this move will help them…they are 17 games out and are in no danger of competing in this division any time soon.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 1, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are deep in OF but from what i understand none are really true CF’ers
by drumzalicious on Jul 1, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah, but if you’re tired of Milledge’s attitude, which trust me, if you’ve been around him for 15 minutes, you are, then this trade is already a win. Also, they’ve got a ton of young pitching, and you want them to grow and be confident as major leaguers. If the moron in center is taking trailing routes all the time and letting easy crap drop, the pitcher is likely to either alter his pitching and not depend on his defense, which is not a good way to pitch.
Personally, I wish they’d throw Justin Maxwell out there everyday in CF.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Woodward started at 3B for Seattle tonight
Thoughts?
by Bronn on Jun 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think...
he sucks.
That is all.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…he’s still playing?
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Jun 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.talk-sports.net/mlb/sucks.aspx/Chris_Woodward
Funniest part is “Does he suck? Please tell us why. Please do not post inappropriate comments”
Kinda like asking the person not to post.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jul 1, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a dream yesterday
That the Braves had traded for Nick Markakis and were playing him in RF. And they were really good.
How crazy is that?
by Bronn on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll get in on some of this "rosterbation"
I would love to see the Braves make a deal based on sending Escobar to the Rangers for Elvis Andrus and Nelson Cruz.
I don’t think the Rangers would give up Cruz, but I think these guys would really improve our team.
Andrus isn’t hitting that great this year, but he is 5 years younger than Escobar, plays great defense, and could be the answer at the top of the order. He has shown the ability to take walks as well as steal bases with a high success rate. I really believe that he could end up in the long-run being more valuable than escobar himself if he continues to improve.
As far as Cruz, I think you guys know the book on him: a great breakout year for him from all areas. He has good power, takes walks, and also surprisingly steals bases at a high success rate.
I wonder if the Braves could make this deal work, maybe (in a perfect world) including Francoeur and someone like Rohrbough to round it out.
What do you guys think?
by BravesWin on Jul 2, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is seriously mindboggling that you have Escobar overvalued to the point where you think he’s worth the Rangers best hitter and best fielder.
by bigjoe on Jul 2, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus is hitting plenty well...
Considering he’s a rookie and an SS.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 2, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering about Juan Pierre in RF..
He is a great leadoff man, and he has the speed to steal bases
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jul 2, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he's also paid a retarded amount of money.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Jul 2, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those kind of things can be reworked. His name is just a name I was thinking of while they were discussing Manny's return on TV today.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Jul 3, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not entirely sure he would re-work his contract for a team he just got traded to.
by drumzalicious on Jul 3, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a noodle arm, and doesn’t always use his speed well in the field because he takes poor routes. And he’s terribly overrated-he’s only had 3 seasons where he’s posted an above average OBP (which is critical for lead-off men), and he’s another about-to-turn 32 year old having a career year. And he steals a lot of bases without having a great success rate (75% on his career, and in the neighborhood of it every single year).
So in essence, he’s fairly average and strapped to a huge contract. And he’s never played RF because of his noodle arm.
by Bronn on Jul 3, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you guys think it would take to get Mark Reynolds?
Something like Medlen/Freeman/Acosta/BJones?
Or something like Jurrjens and KJ?
2009 Atlanta Braves Motto: We ♥ leaving RISP.
by mvhsbball on Jul 3, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would we want a 3rd baseman who can’t field and is a TTO legend?
by bigjoe on Jul 3, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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