"When Garret Anderson and Brian McCann returned to the lineup, Jeff Francoeur wasn't happy about the fact that he was primarily hitting seventh, where he says pitchers were less apt to pitch to him because he had Jordan Schafer and the pitcher's spot sitting behind him."
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Unbelievable
This is a joke, right? This has to be a joke.
Just when I thought I couldn’t get more fed up with the guy…
So…….if he’s not getting pitches to hit, that explains all the walks he’s been getting.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
yup…people were acting like all the walks Schafer was getting were a bad thing. FYF should have been piling them up hitting 7th.
by Smoltz's Beard on May 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, its the pitches he is getting, not the bat that is missing them.
Deflect and Blame!
Deflect and Blame!
Deflect and Blame!
Deflect and Blame!
Deflect and Blame!
Deflect and Blame!
Its like a broken record. Nothing is ever his fault. He might have a better OPS just armoring up and diving into pitches hoping he gets hit.
hindsight is 20-13 just like Ted William actual vision- ken tremendous
If this guy’s parented didn’t totally spoil him, the city of Atlanta has. He’s their golden boy that can do no wrong, no matter how bad he sucks. Of course he’s not going to own up to his own failures.
Tommy Hanson 4 ROY
Can't tell you how many of those fights I've had...
with popped collar douchebags at the Ted.
by MichaelProcton on May 27, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Never in a million years did I think Frenchy would wear out his welcome in Atlanta, but the time is upon us. What sucks is we will get nothing for him. I think he knows in the back of his head that the Braves are better off with him then with out him. I have read that the Red sox are interested in him, but their outfield is set with Drew, Jacoby, and Bay so why would they want Frenchy. Bay is a free agent and I would love to see him in a Braves uniform next year.
What a f-ing dick
Just who the Fuck does this guy think he is??? His selfish attitude and sense of entitlement are getting very annoying. He is LUCKY to be hitting in a MLB lineup, let alone the 7 spot!
I am so over FYF now. I was one of his supporters and was really pulling for him to break out this year, but I am done. He is a horrible person and even worse baseball player.
/rant
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
We can’t win if players are putting theirselves before the team, that is not the Braves way of doing things.
"Baseball Before Hoes"
Very True
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not a horrible person, he’s quite active in the community. He’s actually a really nice guy. He’s just…a whiny, overbearing player with a gigantic false sense of entitlement.
by soup du jour on May 27, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
well put.
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on May 27, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This may be just me
but, I dont consider a person who blames their teamates, throws a bitch-fit when corrected, cares only about themselves and blames everyone and everything except themselves for their own failures a good person.
He may do a ton of community service, but he is a professional athlete and a celebrity, so that is to be expected. I don’t put much stock in those things.
I am a firm believer that athletic competition brings out people’s true colors and right now, FYF is lacking bigtime.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Without baseball, Francoeur has no merit to go work for Delta. Not that it’s anyone’s concern but his.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I bet they’re fierce competitors with Kyle Davies’ family’s construction business, Blaine Boyer’s family’s construction business, and Chad Paronto’s construction business. Maybe it’s not too late for Francoeur to become the high-school football coach he wanted to be.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Lay off Frenchy
He’s just mad that the other players have hotter wives.
Who can blame him?
60% of the time, it works every time
loser
why can’t this guy blame anyone but himself? I’ve always pulled for him to get out of his 14 month slump, but I could care less at this point. He’s pinning his struggles on Jordan, and thats beyond pathetic. obviously other clubs know if the braves dont get what they want for him, he’ll be released. I’d say put him on waivers , let matty diaz play left…let him stink it up in AAA if he makes it there and non tender him at the end of the year.
The sad thing is
After the loss on Monday, Brian McCann was doing a post-game interview and saying that the entire loss was his fault, despite the fact that he contributed a bases-loaded hit, while Failcoeur struck out, and that he wasn’t the one hanging his pitches, he wasn’t the one who decided to go to second instead of first for the sure out, he wasn’t the one who decided to walk Fred Lewis to get to Travis Ishikawa, and he wasn’t the one who made the pitch to Travis Ishikawaka. Yet, McCann shouldered the entire blame.
Stark contrast, here.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on May 27, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
McCann = Good baseball player and even better person
FYF = Bad person and even worse baseball player
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This blog has turned into a big joke. Ninety percent of the posts here are about how a) Jeff Franceour sucks, b) Garret Anderson sucks, or c) Tommy Hanson is the second coming.
45-42
correction
90% of the posts are about what ridiculous trades should be made.
Go ahead, look back over the past two weeks and count the number of posts about Hanson, FYF and FUGA and I guarantee you that there will be more posts made about trades.
And yes, FYF DOES suck, FUGA is coming around and starting to earn our trust, and nobody has said anything about Hanson in quite a while.
So yeah, you are wrong.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
So I just went back
and looked at the first two pages of fanposts:
11 were about trades
5 were about Fuga/Hanson/FYF COMBINED (and one of the ones about FYF was defending him)
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If this blog is such a big joke...
…like you keep saying, then why don’t you just quit reading it? It’s fine to disagree, and no one wants to take that right away from you, but just so you know, you come across as a whiny whinebag. Not all the time, but about 90% of the time.
Seriously…the guy keeps surprising me. I’m supremely upset with myself that I EVER liked him more than McCann.
in your defense
fyf had a better coming out party than heap
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I know…it was hard to not get excited during his rookie season. But even in 2006 I was still getting pumped for him more than McCann (which, hello, should have been a crime when you look at their numbers). When McCann had a down year in 2007 I was still hanging my hat on our future because of FYF. It was until the beginning of 2008 that I was like “what the fuck am I doing!?” If I had really sat down and looked at FYF’s peripherals I should have seen it coming WAY earlier.
SORRY HEAP!
by Smoltz's Beard on May 27, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
McCanns AllStar Selections
is what got me hooked on him…his first one was great, the second one solidified him in my mind, and the third just removed all doubt as to who the real deal in Atlanta was.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Superstar
For me it was the post season mash off Roger Clemens that solidified my opinion of Heap. The kid walked to the plate without an ounce of doubt, wasn’t phased by the (then) aurora of the best pitcher in baseball (hey, I prefaced with then) and smacked an inside fastball like his granny pitched it to him straight out to right. My grandkids, grandkids will be talking about this guy just like we do Johnny Bench – I guarantee it.
You aren’t the czar of typographic emphasis
I remember that one
i was very impressed with the “kid” (he is my age) then.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Never forget that…was boozing it up with my friends in Don Pablo’s. Screaming my face off when that happened.
by Smoltz's Beard on May 27, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
The visual of you snorting beer foam out your nose is just priceless.
You aren’t the czar of typographic emphasis
Yeah, I’m a class act. Good to see you around again.
by Smoltz's Beard on May 27, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m so mad right now.
I can’t believe we actually feel the NEED to get a prospect in return from the BoSox for FYF’s punk ass.
Remember the Adam Sandler CD and the track where the right fielder is terrible…“Oh no, they’re putting in a lefty”….“take it, just take the ball”…way to kick it in Pele?….that track?
Well FYF is the ball. Take him, just take him. I don’t care if we get dick in return, just take him and pay his salary and let us wash our fuggin hands of him.
by volsandbraves on May 27, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
THis just another nail in the FYF coffin which in due time he will be somewhere else and we move on to GA….Hahaa
Or Schafer
FUGA has actually been pretty solid lately…getting on base more than the majority of the rest of the lineup.
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel really dumb for not selling my 9.5 graded Francoeur refractor rookie card 2 years ago when I was unemployed and broke…
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?"
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club. PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK!
Is this one of you guys on Bowman's blog?
Oh shut up. Shut the f&*$ up, you little weenie. Are you serious? Francoeur should be on his knees thanking God, Bobby Cox, Frank Wren, and his lucky rabbit foot every night that he even has a spot on a MLB 25-man roster. He’s done nothing but be one of the game’s top out-makers for the past 2 years. Yet they keep giving him chances because “he’s a nice guy” and “he is a local guy” and “he was once a good prospect”. And he has the nerve to complain about what spot in the line-up he bats? My god. What an insufferable little prig. I’m beside myself.
Look, Francoeur, the problem is not where you bat in the line-up. The problem is you are the easiest person to pitch to in the major leagues, they know you’re going to swing at pitches you can’t hit and they know you can’t hit a breaking ball. The problem is YOU, Jeff. And until you stop pretending like it’s anything else, you’re going to continue to drink from the suck tank.
This just infuriates me. He’s got the nerve to blame a rookie for his struggles. I guess he’ll look anywhere for someone to blame. But we see through it, Jeff. You’re not fooling us. Quit trying to be so stubborn and quit convincing yourself that your problems are external. The problem is you. Grow up.
I’m done ranting, but damn, that makes me so mad. Blaming a rookie. A ROOKIE???
By PWHjort on May 26, 2009 7:17 PM
Well stated.
what is a prig?
"Actually, Justin was right."
by bigjoe on May 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
by justincredubil02 on May 27, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck you, Frenchy
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on May 27, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
This has to start pissing off Cox eventually, who I assume is the only person supporting FYF. Don’t try to drag Schafer down with you, ya bastard.
If Dunn walks 30 fewer times, he'll drive in 15 more runs. This is thanks to the scientifically proven formula: RBI = (this is nonsense) (I made it all up).
Here's a stat: Wins as manager: Dusty Baker, 1,162; Bill James, 0.
Very disappointing
I was cautiously optimistic coming into the season—Chipper said FYF would be the clean-up hitter, how do you argue with that? But now, I’m just disappointed that this guy doesn’t have sense enough to keep his mouth shut and just play ball. Others have pointed out what a monumental sense of entitlement this statement implies, and I wholeheartedly agree! How do you “perform” like FYF (fuck it, he doesn’t get caps anymore—too much effort to hit the shift key) fyf did last year and complain about your spot in the batting order? You don’t, unless you’re really only concerned with your own stats. That’s what his bitching is about, 100%—his personal stats. FW, DFA fyf now! He’s not worth a roster spot, and certainly not worth his salary. I wonder what Chipper thinks?
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
Forget Chipper why hasnt his hitting COACH!!
Apparently KJ got yelled at for getting out on the first pitch last night but what about FYF? he gets out on first pitches all the time.
by drumzalicious on May 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was watching it on MLB TV and the announcer said something like it looked like KJ was getting chewed out by Pendelton
by drumzalicious on May 27, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been staying out of the FYF debate for quite some time, silently hoping he’d turn the corner eventually. Those days are gone. This stupid sack of shit has gone too far now.
Jordan actually plays with a passion, and is clearly trying to improve. He is turning the corner, and should develop into a great baseball player in a few years or so. Upshot: Jordan cares, and we’ve seen nothing to prove that Frenchy does.
How does Bobby keep putting up with this crap? I’d rather let Brandon Jones try in right. I dont even care if he’s worse (which would be hard to do), he’d at least act like he cares
No one on the corner has swagga like us
Its time for Frank Wren to hop up out his bed, and turn his swagga on by calling up B.Jones
SubParr
I mean. I’m a person pulling for FYF to turn it around but seeing him not take the blame for his under performing is stupid. Freakin David Ross was hitting infront of Schafer and getting better hits.
I just hope he turns it around over the next couple of weeks. He needs to stop swinging at one of the first two pitches
in 174 AB’s the guy has had
0 3-0 Counts
2 3-1 Counts
8 3-2 Counts
Bobby should put him in between Chipper and Mac just to prove to him that its not the place he is hitting. it doesnt matter where you hit if you always swing at pitches off your toes.
How do you not get to 1 fucking 3-0 count?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?"
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club. PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK!
That's inaccurate
Per Baseball-reference.
He’s seen 4 3-0 counts. 2 of those resulted in walks ( I think one was intentional), one was a strikeout, and one resulted in some other out.
He’s also seen 6 3-1 counts. Three of those are the results of 3-0 counts that have gone to 3-1.
And he’s had 10 full counts.
The numbers you pulled up at his ABs in those specific situations. 1) You need to count plate appearances, and 2) you need to look at results AFTER the count, not just the exact splits from batting with those counts.
Those numbers are still terrible, and even though I’m another who is guilty of once harboring hope for this guy, I’m ready for him to go back to AA while Blanco/Jones/anyone else gets a chance in his place.
My B
I def skipped the second half of the stats i was going off of ESPN.
by drumzalicious on May 27, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather not have him hitting between our two best hitters.
by Smoltz's Beard on May 27, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Preface by saying, I’m firmly in the camp of Free Brandon Jones, but the fact is, this outfield is really bad, with or without Frenchy. That won’t change until wholesale changes are made (excluding Schafer, who also is guilty but obviously isn’t going anywhere right now).
So where does that leave us?
True enough. As sad as it is, his OPS is the highest of our 3 starting OFs.
Matt Diaz’s, on the other hand, is a very GOOD .863. He needs to play more.
lmao
"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews ~ RIP Roi
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on May 27, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
Less apt to pitch to him?
If someone doesnt pitch to him, what are they smoking? Not like he can do anything with the bat either.
I just had a thought…if pitchers are less apt to give him good shit to hit, WHY IS HE SWINGING THE BAT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?"
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club. PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK!
FYF and Logan are having problems at the plate, but Logan is much more of a man than FYF.
Logan is a team player and never blames his problems on anyone other than himself.
I for one appreciate that in a player.
The Braves have always played as a team until FYF. I am sure the team is as tired of his whining as we are.
If Bobby gets wind of his selfish behavior. I have hope he will get rid of him!!
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Maybe it's just me
but I just can’t understand, or maybe comprehend is a better word, how anyone can be this oblivious to his own shortcomings. Seriously, there has to be some sort of medical terminology for this. I don’t know, but what I do know is our team must do something soon. Cut him, trade him, whatever … just “Git r dun”!
You aren’t the czar of typographic emphasis
Was this really worthy of a fanshot?? I mean come on, I think we need a fanpost about appropriate/inappropriate fanshots. Complete garbage, bigjoe you are better than this.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
It was probably worthy of a full article, but didn’t have any idea how I could fill the rest of the space aside from scrolling JEFF FRANCOEUR SUCKS 600 times
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?"
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club. PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK! PLEASE COME BACK!
LOL, you should have.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
So ...
Bowman was the one who commented?
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
We love to kill on him, but maybe he might be waking up?
From a blurb on Yahoo Fantasy: “RF Jeff Francoeur acknowledges that he has reverted to his bad former stance — unintentionally. When the pressure is on, he can’t stick to the improvements he made over the winter. He is getting more hits, but not at critical moments in the game. Francoeur went 0-for-4 Wednesday, and he finished 1-for-12 in the San Francisco series.”
At least he knows he’s fucking up. Maybe he can turn it around.
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