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The Fans' Confidence in the Atlanta Braves at 76 Percent to Start the Season

Last Friday we took our first Fan Confidence Poll, which asked all readers of Talking Chop to gauge their confidence in the Atlanta Braves organization. After tabulating the results of the 48 hour poll, the average came out to 7.6 or 76%. That's pretty good confidence, though it will be interesting to see how high it soars this Friday, especially if we can sweep Philly this afternoon.

For reference, the Mets fans' confidence is at 7.8.

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I tend to think it will take a little bit of a bump given that people are now seeing the off-season changes in true game action. Not too much, though, as there are still plenty of Debbie Downer pessimists out there. I predict something around 85%.

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Shocker that the Braves blogger would pick the Mets. It’s amazing the hard-on Braves fans have for hating the Mets. The nerve of that guy to talk about depth. What ‘depth’ do the Braves have? Half of their rotation has little to no experience. Javier Vasquez went 12-16 last year with an ERA just under 5. The Japanese kid they signed has no MLB experience. To say that the Mets have no depth, especially coming from a Braves fan is laughable. Here is the Braves bench:

Clint Sammons
Omar Infante
Martin Prado
Greg Norton
Jordan Schafer

lol

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by bigjoe on Apr 8, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

No surprise there.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.

by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our bench must not negate the fact that brian schneider = mccann (better defense)

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once more with feeling!

no the mets are still better at most positions:

Schnider/Mcccan – tie (schnider has better d)
Kotch / Delgao – 38 hrs from carlos
Castillo/Johnson – castillo can return to a .300 hitter but jonson barely wins
wright/jones – no contest, wright
reyes/who??? – reyes wins, best ss in the majors
tatis/diaz – tatis raked last year
beltran/anderson – beltran is an all-star
francouer/church – church raked before his concusion he will rebond

santana/lowe – santana is the best sp in the majors
perez/hudson – perez has better potential plus hudson was hurt last yr
pelfrey/jurgens – jurgens gives up 2 many hits
maine/vazquez – vazquez wins barely cuz he had a good 07 but maine has more potential
redding/campillo – redding through more innings, campillo would have a 500 era if he starts again ppl will figur ehim out

k-rod had the most svs, he is the best lcoser in baseball, no contest

Posted by: metsin08 | February 18, 2009 at 09:51 PM

"Ohhhh shit"-Bobby Cox

by 10-4 on Apr 8, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a first-ballot entry into the post HOF.

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw the username. LOL

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by bigjoe on Apr 8, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice catch

I whiffed on that one. I had the same reaction as when I’m driving around and see people with bumper stickers touting a losing politician.

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i actually saw a Kerry/Edwards one the other day.

"Ohhhh shit"-Bobby Cox

by 10-4 on Apr 8, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better d...

I should be able to joke about that, but the fact that it makes me so mad to think about how stupid that is prevents me from chuckling at that guy. Let’s just forget that McCann it arguably the best offensive catcher in baseball, and how Schneider is a .700 ops player, while McCann is more like a .900 ops player.

by MatM on Apr 8, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ppl like that guy

are the reason i hate the mets and their fans. schneider is tied with mccann? seriously?? he cant even spell names from his favorite team

Now that's thinking with your dipstick

by heap16 on Apr 8, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he obviously wasnt thinking with his dipstick

Now that's thinking with your dipstick

by heap16 on Apr 8, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

…Jimmy

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by bigjoe on Apr 8, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

isnt that commercial hilarious?

Now that's thinking with your dipstick

by heap16 on Apr 8, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable!!!!

Are you serious with this list? How any all star teams has Schnider been on here lately. McCann is awesome. His defense may be a little suspect but you Mets fans should like someone like that, does the name Mike Piazza ring a bell? Delgado is still playing, I thought he retired. Castillo probably has an edge ill give you that one. Wright no contest against Jones. I dont care how uneducated and how much of a fan you are, there is no doubt that Chipper Jones is one of the greatest Third baseman of his generation. Wright winning a gold glove two years ago was laughable. He had something like 23 errors that year. Give me a break. Admit it David playing in NY with that media bias isnt always that bad. Reyes is very good. No complaining there. Jordan Schafer is not on the bench he is starting and already making an impact.. Im not going to keep going with this but to hate the Yankees so much the Mets sure try to copy them a lot. Lets spend a whole lot of money. Try to buy us a championship and hire a bunch of big names all the while depleting the farm system. You know though, at least the Yankees did win a few championships in the 90’s. The Mets havent won since 86 and that was thanks to Buckner. You know looking at all those players that you have listed as the best at their position in the majors, you would think you could at least win the NL East. Whatever you do though you better hurry up. Tommy Hanson is on the way and after that you wont be able to compete with the Phillies or us.

by brob92 on Apr 9, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

10-4

I highly, HIGHLY suggest you begin re-posting that in quotes boxes in the future – too many people will continue to think that you’re the one posting it.

Might as well also disclaim in the biggest boldest letters each time, that THE FOLLOWING IS A QUOTE FROM A METS FAN

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 9, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t know, its kind of entertaining. i mean, look at that wall of text. All because he didn’t read it thoroughly before posting. Wasted effort is funny.

"Ohhhh shit"-Bobby Cox

by 10-4 on Apr 9, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, as long as you’re cool with it….

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 9, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.

by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 9, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.

by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 9, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Compared to:

Sheffield (when he’s ready)
Castro
Cora
M. Anderson
Reed
Tatis

Also, lol at the fact that they have Logan on the bench. So I guess Diaz is starting in CF then?

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

They must have not seen the Beckett magazine 2009 preview. Clint Sammons is our starting CF.

"Ohhhh shit"-Bobby Cox

by 10-4 on Apr 8, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

There has to be some way

We need to come up with some sort of quantitative formula that shows which fan base is the most baseball ignorant.

Based on what I read on the ESPN message boards and what you guys post here from the mets blog (I dont go there myself), the Mets have to be the early favorites.

Running WIllie Randolph off like they did doesn’t help there position in my mind.

Penis

by justincredubil02 on Apr 8, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yankees and Red Sox fans are right up there.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.

by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

there are actually some knowledgeable sox fans out there…i went to college in boston and believe me, there are plenty of people there who know their stuff

problem is, they get drowned out by all the drunk, frat boy band wagon hoppers…

by Doghnut on Apr 8, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. In fact, the person who introduced me into the whole stat-based community was a friend of mine who’s a Sox fan. However…

problem is, they get drowned out by all the drunk, frat boy band wagon hoppers…

…that’s what I’m talking about. Any team where there are an abundance of band-wagon fans, that’s going to be the stupidest fanbase.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.

by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 8, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the popularity of Bill Simmons is helping them either.

“DOOD! THE SPORTS GUY IS SO AWESOME! WE GOTTA CHEER FOR HIS TEAM MAN! YEEEEEEEEEAH PAPI!!!!!”

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by bigjoe on Apr 8, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is unfortunate, because Simmons isnt nearly as bad as half the dbags who read him

by Doghnut on Apr 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true. Simmons is an entertaining writer, but his fanbase is retarded.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

He’s one of the very few ESPN guys I read on a regular basis.

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a kid at my university who was obviously from Boston since he was always draped in Red Sox and whatever-other-team-in-Boston-was-winning-at-the-time gear. Well my school loses a football game to the Boston College (gets destroyed by Matty Ice), and the douchebag shows up the next day in a Boston College Eagles shirt. It’s one thing to cheer for the Sox, but you go to the school, and you’re cheering for your own school to lose and rub it in when they do? Total, utter douchebaggery.

Him + Dane Cook make the Red Sox fanbase the most unbearable.

by VictorW on Apr 8, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox fan base for me was bearable until Jimmy Fallon and Drew Berrymore, plus whoever wrote the screenplay, and the idiot that came up with the idea in the first place, decided to butcher a perfectly good book called “Fever Pitch”.

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ben Affleck pulls for the Red Sox hardcore, dude

It doesn’t get much more douchey than that. Damn it Smoltz. I need to have a one on one with Smoltzie. Can somebody tell him I’m coming for him?

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 8, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

dane cook is horrific…

BC kids arent too bad — most of them arent annoying…I went to BU, but grew up a Clemson fan…since BU has no football team, I have stayed a Clemson guy and went to one of their games at BC…their fan base is pathetic — Clemson literally had more people there than they did

by Doghnut on Apr 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to punch Dane Cook in the face. He is a no talent ass clown.

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Apr 8, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

That about sums it up.

"People need help, and you know how to help them."

by VegasAces on Apr 8, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Office Space insult.
+1

by someguy917 on Apr 8, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I go to a Penn State branch campus, and the first day back from winter break, I wore a USC t-shirt…

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by bigjoe on Apr 8, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good choice.

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Apr 8, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Cubs. I’m also not a big fan of Oakland/SF fans, I’m guessing it’s a Bay Area thing, but they have some of the most condescending, smarmiest fans I’ve ever met in my life. Then again it’s not just the baseball fans that act that way.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 8, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giants fans I will agree with you on, they are unbearable. Over half of them don’t show up till the third inning, then leave in the 7th (or whenever Barry bats for the last time), and talk on their damn cell phones the whole time they are there.

I’ve never really had a problem with A’s fans though.

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Apr 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 for “smarmiest”

by Gage23 on Apr 8, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets? Right.

The Mets starting eight might be better than ours, and their starting pitching might even be as good as ours, but they are not as deep. I think they are far more vulnerable to a serious injury.

Yes, K-Rod and Putz might be the best 8th to 9th inning tandem in the game right now, but Gonzales and Soriano are in for good years as well. I think we take the Mets in ‘09. Hopefully that isn’t just wishful thinking.

by Atlanta_Chris on Apr 8, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

If Diaz/BJones were platooning in left, I would have voted a 10

I get nervous every time Anderson goes for a pop-up. Other than that, we’re gravy.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 8, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus,

some douche from the Phillies/Mets forum probly voted that really low score to fuck up the average.

"The future is no place to place your better days." - Dave Matthews

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 8, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Shame on you, gondee...

…for having more confidence in your team than any of those other bloggers. That really seemed to offend some Mets fans. This was one of my favorite comments:

#
rowjamie says:
April 8, 2009 at 1:14 pm

What is the Braves guy smoking? He shouldn’t be included in any more discussions like this.

Apparently these idiots don’t get that you cannot be wrong about your own confidence level.

One of my greatest sources of entertainment is reading Mets blogs and the comments on them.

by sddbaker on Apr 8, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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