Serenity now.
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 9:48 AM EDT
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Well, that was a fun game to watch, huh? Since I didn't actually see the bullpen collapse happen in real time, I would have to say last night's loss has been the most painful to watch. BUT...I'm not here to complain, just to pass on a little tidbit reminding those of you who think the season is cooked for some reason that, hello, it's not even May yet.
4/22/08 Records of 2008 Playoff Teams
- Cubs: 13-6
- Dodgers: 8-11
- Phillies: 8-10
- Brewers: 11-8
- Angels: 12-9
- Red Sox: 14-7
- Rays: 8-11
- White Sox: 11-7
Can we all chill out right now? We're only two games under .500. We're only 5 games back in the NL East behind a team that, guess what, isn't going to play .786 ball all season. We're only 3 games back in the wild card. The offense will heat up as the summer months roll along, this is common knowledge. Our bullpen doesn't look to be a complete disaster (OMG, who knew!). And the most important part of our team, starting pitching, has been pretty damn good this season. The depth we have in that area is going to be huge as the season progresses.
Let's all take a step back from the ledge, and can we please stop with the constantly complaining? We're playing really poorly, I'm aware. People are upset, I'm aware. But if you want to bitch, if you want to vent...do so in the game thread. There's no reason to start up a fanpost where you do nothing but complain. I don't see any other SBN blog that has the type of fickle fans that we do, and quite frankly it makes the site look really bad. Let's try to act like adults here people.
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You guys ruin this website with your constant bitching when the tiniest thing goes wrong. People calling for multiple people to be sent down and claiming that a trade has to be made RIGHT NOW…shut up. Just shut the fuck up.
I swear to god this block of text needs to be made into a button, so that it can easily be pressed and said without having to search for “ruin this website,” and copy and paste it into its individual quote block every time a new bitcher comes around.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yes
I havent seriously read fan posts since the season started…i swear, my visits to the site decrease during the season and it shouldnt be that way (tho some might prefer it…)
by Doghnut on Apr 22, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t agree more. And it’s not just this site, sadly.
by Weldon on Apr 22, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I’m talking about. People aren’t coming to the site anymore because of other posters acting like little kids. Do we need to create a designated bitching thread after every loss?
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at you! Mr. Beard on the front page!
I agree with you 100% on everything that you have stated, I would even go so far as to say sometimes the game thread gets too negative, but that is just my opinion.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NAHWAL winner, front page author…things are looking up.
But seriously, I can understand the game thread complaining. Schafer gets caught up between 2B and 3B and people should be able to let the obscenities fly. Hell, I know I do.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
loser
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True and I agree with that, but after the game, at least recently, there is a whole lot of “we suck, we are the worst team in the world, because we lost to the Nationals” talk and I guess I just don’t really get it. We aren’t even a month in, I know we are in a rough patch but give it some time. I would rather have the Braves struggle in April, figure things out in mid-May and then dominate the rest of the season than just say we suck and quit watching now. I believe we have a good team, maybe I am in the minority. Sometimes we lose to crap teams, but guess what, that is why they play the game. The Nationals aren’t going to go 5-162 and the Marlins aren’t going to go 152-10, I believe we will be alright.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, I agree the woe is me nonsense at the end of the each loss gets old.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can and can’t see the shame of losing to the Natinals. Look at last season 59 teams lost to the Natinals. They must all suck too! The Braves just have the dubious dis-honor of being the first team to drop two-straight to the Natinals this year, but let’s be honest; there will be many others.
But on the flip side, it always sucks losing to the Natinals. This makes five straight losses playing at Natinals Park.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I go there in June do you want me to burn it down?
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I like DC as a whole, Southeast doesn’t need to revert back into the ghetto it once was.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you 100% on everything that you have stated, I would even go so far as to say sometimes the game thread gets too negative, but that is just my opinion.
Well, in my short time here I can say that I’ve seen the posters bitch when we blow a play, run poorly, scream at the blinky-eyed ump that blows a call (2nd base assault called an out) and failure to score with 2nd & 3rd and no outs ….
BUT, I’ve also seen posts of celebration when they pitch a great inning, make a great catch, lay down a bunt, hit one in the gap (or better yet a homer), run the bases well and find a way to score.
The Braves have made it easier of late to bitch more than praise – but I can say I’ve seen the posts actually reflect what’s happening on the field and not just being negative for negative’s sake.
by NCChopper on Apr 22, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, I am all for cheering and jeering about certain plays when the game is going on. If Chip hits a bomb, cheer, if Diaz misplays a ball, boo him. My issue is after the game has ended, when we lose, there are some people who trash talk like they aren’t even Braves fans, and that is what makes me mad. But again, it is just my opinion of the game thread.
BTW:
lay down a bunt
That’s funny!
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can say I’ve seen the posts actually reflect what’s happening on the field and not just being negative for negative’s sake.
This. One of the reasons the game threads are so much fun is because they ride the emotion of a dramatic game like baseball. We bitch and moan every time Yunel hits into a double play, Kelly bobbles a ball at second, and the bullpen walks in a run, but it’s only because we are as frustrated about losing as our own players are (except for GA. He hates baseball). But at the same time, we all cheer hard when the bullpen shuts down a rally, a struggling hitter gets that 2 out RBI, or fielder makes a play you’d never expect. We even appreciate and celebrate good processes that end in bad result, like rocket line drives that end in double plays or 9 pitch at bats that end in an out despite the batter putting a great swing on the pitch.
by VictorW on Apr 22, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm
A designated bitching thread might be nice. It would funnel those who want to bitch to only there, and it could possibly get away with having the nonsensical emo-speak. Also, it would create flexibility to possibly make a rule if a fanpost does not meet the requisite 75 words, it will be deleted, because that’s generally what most bitching fanposts end up starting as.
But we need a classy name to call it; because “bitch thread” on the mainpage looks kind of tacky. We can name it after a player or something.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUGA’s Thread of Dispair.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
FUGA’s Thread of Despair.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we need a classy name to call it; because "bitch thread" on the mainpage looks kind of tacky. We can name it after a player or something.
Oh boy, I can only imagine the suggestions to come. :-p
Skips away, thinking positive …. (tee hee)
by NCChopper on Apr 22, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
For Seinfeld reference
But seriously people, and I was number one screaming we suck when we couldn’t score a run against a bullpen thats been like a doorknob with everyone getting a turn. I don’t post a ton, but I read daily, and I know I have no room to say anything, cause most of you probably consider me a noob, but some of these people, are just dang near suicidal. I mean, you know what happened last year in August, no one wanted to watch, no one wanted to play, no one was interested. We are all guilty of that to some extent, but you know what, even while watching the playoffs, I was still a Braves fan, I may say, “hey, i’m gonna pull for the Rays to win it all now” once we were eliminated, but there was never any Tampa Bay attire on me or anything… I went on a tangent there, but don’t count us out until we are 10+ games back at the break, anything more than that I think is
"The game demonstrated the superiority of the Southern teams over any aggregation that the damn yankees could send across the Mason and Dixon Line." Sports writer Charles Israel of the Philadelphia Bulletin after the Tide's 61-6 win over Syracuse in the 1953 Orange Bowl.
by morri029 on Apr 22, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bought a Tampa Bay hat last year!
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
los-
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s what you are, if you didn’t see what i did there.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh gotya. Because of the Bad Santa reference.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
…and a big (+1), especially for the last paragraph.
"People need help, and you know how to help them."
by VegasAces on Apr 22, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Insanity later.
You left off the best part of the quote.
by CHill33 on Apr 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice work Beard. I’ve promoted and submitted it for distribution… means you should see it on the Braves Yahoo page.
by gondeee on Apr 22, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He speaks the truth
It’s there now.
"People need help, and you know how to help them."
by VegasAces on Apr 22, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did Beard get to post on the mainframe?
Maybe i’m off here, but i seem to remember plenty o’ people complaining, quite a bit. Now, if you’re going to censor all that, those “EPIC FAIL” pics, and the fat ladies, and all the other stuff – well, that falls under complaining also.
I agree – 956 posts shouldnt be 70% bitching about insane and too early stupid predicitions, but I think everyone on this blog has done a bit of it.
by traphicg on Apr 22, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He wrote something fantastic that everyone needs to read, and gondeee promoted it to front page status, as such.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you actually read what I typed I said complaining and venting is perfectly normal, perfectly understandable, and damn near therapeutic at times. However the fail pics, clever tapestries of profanities, etc are all for the most part located in the game threads. I don’t think anyone on this site has a problem with that.
Want I’m talking about are the people who sign up for the sole reason of creating a fanpost doing nothing else than bashing the Braves. They don’t offer ideas to better the team, they don’t criticize constructively, and most of the time they don’t even have the balls to respond again in their post. Examples are here, and here.
Then we have posters who only show up after losses and add random negative statements into the discussion and then disappear. Do they have the right to do so, sure. But what’s the point? We all know you’re unhappy, but does it make you feel better to try and bring everyone else down? It’s childish.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s really bad that we expect someone to post crap immediately after a loss too. Even the game threads allude to it if we’re trailing.
by VictorW on Apr 22, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear you
Oh I read what you posted and my sentiments stand. You opened a new fanpost with a sarcastic remark to complain about the most painful loss yet, then proceed to talk about how ridiculous complaining is.
All I’m saying is that if people want to skip a post, skip the post. Not everyone needs to read every fanpost and comment and everything. I just dont see why everyone’s getting so worked up about all the bitching going on – isnt that what sports fans do?
I agree that constructive and significant baseball discussion are ideal, but not everyone on this blog has been watching baseball for 30 years.
by traphicg on Apr 24, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You opened a new fanpost with a sarcastic remark to complain about the most painful loss yet, then proceed to talk about how ridiculous complaining is.
There’s a difference between making lite of a situation, and complaining for the sake of complaining. And you don’t have to have 30 years of baseball knowledge/experience to engage in an adult conversation. I’m trying to clean up the page, because it looks like shit when you sign on and every other fanpost is “Fire Wren” or “Player X Sucks”…and it’s equally frustrating that these fanposts are about topics that have been discussed ad nauseum in other threads/posts. You know? Why don’t they just add their $0.02 there? I know why, because they’re too lazy so they think that starting a fanpost is the best idea.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 24, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it
I do, I really do, I guess I’m just used to skipping a lot of those…. Bottom line, we all supposedly love the Bravos so you’re right, enough of the ridiculous and petty complaining just to complain. I hear that also about the posting and hiding and never even making more comments to your own fanpost.
Now wasnt this a positive process? A discussion w/o emotions? Unless you’re sitting there punching the cat.
by traphicg on Apr 26, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with these fanposts is that they are completely unproductive.
They sound like this:
“Blaine Boyer sucks. I told you guys our bullpen was awful. This team stinks. Wren really messed up this time.”
If those posters put some thought behind their posts, they could end up something like this:
“Blaine Boyer has been absolutely awful lately. Do you think he can pick himself back up after some bad outings or do the Braves need to cut/trade/demote him? Does he even have trade value? Maybe we can ship him to Team X for Player Y. Does anyone know what’s wrong with Boyer? Location? Velocity? Could he be injured?”
Both are about how Blaine Boyer sucks, but the tone and purpose of the posts are clearly different.
by VictorW on Apr 24, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For?
"People need help, and you know how to help them."
by VegasAces on Apr 22, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His meaning being that he’s surprised that someone is being reasonable during the rash of wahmbulancing.
by soup du jour on Apr 22, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, got it. That makes sense.
"People need help, and you know how to help them."
by VegasAces on Apr 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK Beard, I'm just as guilty of this in my short time here.
Boy, I picked a bad week to start posting. I’d like to blame it on the Tequila, but alas I think my comments this week would have sounded just a frustrated without it.
Thinking positive thoughts for tonight.
Now it’s the Braves turn to do their part.
by NCChopper on Apr 22, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And in SB’s comments above (posted while I was typing) I see he’s mostly concerned with the “fan posts” instead of the game threads. On that point I totally agree. +10
Breathes a little sigh of relief since I don’t want to wear out my welcome in such a short time.
by NCChopper on Apr 22, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you’re fine. I think game threads should be a place where the community can let loose and vent. But it should probably stop there, no reason for the unpleasant thoughts of last night to spill over to tonight’s game.
At least that’s my humble opinion.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with engaging problematic thoughts the next day, because some of us have a harder time letting go of bad instances, and just sometimes need to talk it out, or at least see that others might be frustrated as they are.
What I do have a problem with is the approach so many people take in doing such. Slamming players, the team, the fans, and thinking that the season is all but over in April is absurd. Especially when your only justification is personal bias, or based on the previous night’s events.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
yeah the other 96 is that I am too good for everyone else.
by Lizziebeth on Apr 22, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, am I glad I can't afford MLB Extra Innings or cable or a home phone or the internet
I don’t have to watch any of the sucking. I guess that might make me a crappy fan, but I figure that I’ve watched enough games in the past to make up for the fact that I won’t get to watch too many in the present and near future.
"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09
by buzzdeadwax on Apr 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what they say…serenity now, insanity later…
by NASABravesFan on Apr 22, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do agree it’s entirely too early, but there are definitely some things that need to be done. Such as defensive substitutes, rounding second baserunning clinic, not using Greg Norton as the first pinch hitter while he’s slumping, and doing something about Garret Anderson.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by beeniez on Apr 22, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Prado was the first pinch hitter. Norton was brought in to play the lefty-righty match-up.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Main pinch hitter.* I don’t know, I just didn’t have a good feeling about Norton when I saw him coming off the bench. I guess using Infante against a right hander doesn’t make much sense either.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by beeniez on Apr 22, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can bitch in this post right? I know it’s about not bitching and all… but we can still do it right?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by beeniez on Apr 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what your saying and I didn’t have a good feeling either. I was thinking more about 0-10 rather than lefty-righty match-up.
You can generally tell how the braves are doing by my mood.
by GwinnettBraves on Apr 22, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t argue with you about the team needing a base running clinic. They’ve been embarrassing out there.
I’m honestly surprised with everyone’s sudden hatred of Norton. The guy was amazing for us last year, and it’s obvious that he’s struggling…but we can’t just give up on him after 11 PAs. But who else are you gonna bring up in that spot?
I’ll ask the same question about defensive subs…who else would you have put in Diaz’s place? I guess Infante? I dunno, I don’t blame Bobby for that…normally Diaz is pretty solid out there. It just sucks that he’s made two freakishly bad plays out there already this season.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The “what have you done for me lately” attitude definitely applies with me for Norton. I love him, and I still have faith that he’ll eventually turn things around, but I just don’t have any confidence that good things will happen when he comes to the plate right now. Same reason why we all hate Garret Anderson despite a pretty good career up until now, he just hasn’t done much for the Braves this season.
There was nothing that could have been done last night with defensive substitutes – I think it boils down to roster construction. Maybe in the future bring up Barton or Blanco. I guess that was a little overly extreme to criticize a normally solid Diaz, but that was two key spots this season already he’s missed the ball. In wake of Brian McCann and the same Christian Guzman story every night, I think a team-wide eye sight check should be in order – I’m honestly surprised this isn’t more routine since baseball so heavily relies on perfect vision. I don’t remember Diaz ever losing the ball in the lights in the past, maybe there’s something wrong with his vision now.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by beeniez on Apr 22, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if the situation presents itself were we can PH Norton with a lead or an instances where the pressure isn’t crippling…that’s probably gonna be a good idea to get his confidence back.
And I’m all for putting Anderson on the DL…bring up Blanco/Barton/B. Jones…whoever.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same reason why we all hate Garret Anderson despite a pretty good career up until now, he just hasn’t done much for the Braves this season.
Not entirely true. Even before he was signed, we saw him decline into a .750-.770 OPS player who is way passed his prime. Nobody expected him to be enough better than BJones or Blanco to warrant his paycheck and roster slot.
I remember Infante missing a play in the lights last year against either the Mets or Phillies last year. It ended up as a walk off hit, if I recall.
by VictorW on Apr 22, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
This may not be the best time to stand up for the GA signing, but there was an (albeit small) contingent of folks, including myself, who felt that the relative predictability of GA’s skill set (on both offense and defense) justified the signing.
With so many question marks in the lineup and the field, there’s value in knowing exactly what you should get from GA: A 1-2 win corner OF who costs half a win and doesn’t block anybody in 2010.
Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball
by Yakker on Apr 22, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Anderson signing is fine in a vacuum. He’ll easily be a 1+ win player over a full season for a very affordable price. I just don’t think he’ll perform better than Blanco, or maybe even Josh Anderson in left, and others were on the BJones bandwagon.
by VictorW on Apr 22, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possible, but none of those guys offered any certainty. In a lineup full of question marks (would Chipper stay healthy, would Johnson stick at 2B, would Schafer hit, would Frenchy’s “new approach” work, etc.), sometimes the smart move for balance is to minimize your downside risk, even if it costs an extra $2M.
Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball
by Yakker on Apr 22, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get that crap out of here…its almost reasonable we have no need for rationale here.
but i do agree with that you’re saying… but on the other hand wouldnt it seem that a month into the season if what we were using (Blanco/ JAnderson/ BJones) wasnt wokrign… wouldnt GA still be there… and if he wasnt Edmonds would or someone else. Its a risk to think they will still be free agents and that they would be able to come in without any spring training and a lose of one month and expect them to produce immediately.
I dont disagree that the risk of GA is minimal and your reasoning is perfectly clear.Im just giving an alternative.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 23, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
GA probably would have signed somewhere, but maybe somebody else would be available in May if we found ourselves with a gaping hole in LF. (Kenny Lofton will probably end up signing somewhere this summer, if he comes down a little from his salary demands.)
Still, why take the risk? To save a couple mil? To clear an 09 spot for Diaz/BJones, when it’s clear that neither is the long-term solution in LF (to the Braves organization)? I just don’t see it being worthwhile.
I think that the Braves, for better or worse, have made a talent evaluation that Brandon Jones isn’t and will not be a major league starter. People may not agree with that, but that’s the way this looks. The Braves scouts have a pretty good record, in my book. And, of course, it doesn’t hurt that Heyward is coming quickly, as well. The OF of the future is Heyward-Schafer-Francouer.
Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball
by Yakker on Apr 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you consider Josh Anderson -12.5 runs with the bat and an exactly average defensive CF, then he’s a 1 win player. Likewise, if Blanco is -0.5 runs with the bat with average CF defense, then he’s a 1.75 win player. If either player moves to LF, then their value is the same since their improved defense in LF makes up for the positional adjustment in LF. Do you really think any of those two players would produce worse than that? Frankly, I think GAnderson would be more likely to fail than either of those hitters since he’s older.
GAnderson’s ceiling is about 1.8 wins for a full season so he’s not a large upgrade over the 2 outfielders we already had. Why spend any money when we have players with similar capabilities and with upside? GAnderson only has downside since he’s 36-37. Additionally, GAnderson blocks a mid-season trade because he’s a “professional” hitter and a “glider” on defense. I highly doubt the team would pull a mid-season trade now unless he goes on the extended DL.
The Braves scouts do a wonderful job. When’s the last time the team lost on a trade? Even the Teixeira trade wasn’t that bad. One of their major flaws, however, is supporting professional hitters like GAnderson and Mark Kotsay when existing inhouse options can produce similar or better production. JAnderson, Blanco, and Willie Harris are three examples.
by VictorW on Apr 23, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bout time someone said it.
I’d have done it, but I don’t really start my own posts. I mainly come here to read about the Braves, but it’s been painful lately with all the bitching.
the bullpen won’t continue to suck. Everyone should have started 20 fanposts when Boyer was traded. Like where you were at the moment you found out and if your dog looked at your funny for leaping for joy. Stuff like that. Although I do hope Boyer finds some success.
Our hitting will heat up. Again, why no love for Frenchy’s small success this year so far? He’s really cut down on his strikeouts and making more contact. He doesn’t look totally lost out there, so show him so love. The fans can put the Braves over the top by cheering for the players, not jeering.
Thanks for airing it out. But who does Beard get to wrestle?
by Sparhawk on Apr 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s been plenty of praise for FYF in game threads after solid at-bats. Even if he takes 5 pitches, puts a good swing, and makes an out, people have been praising him for having a solid at-bat and approach.
I wonder how sustainable it is since his walk rate has all but evaporated, but he has proven that he hit for contact again at least. I wonder if he can turn into an Alfonso Soriano type at the plate (minus the speed).
by VictorW on Apr 22, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I need to be in more games threads.
by Sparhawk on Apr 22, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do u mean by Soriano type?
it appears Frenchy has been unable to couple good contact rates with good power… that would be what Soriano does (IMHO). I dont expect Jeff to walk a ton..thats not his game…but if he could hit 300ish with decent power he would be perfectly acceptable in RF.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano type = good average, low OBP, good power.
.290/.330/.500. Something like that.
by VictorW on Apr 23, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which I would take 100% of the time.
by soup du jour on Apr 24, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too. I wish they’d stop batting him leadoff and wasting all those HRs.
by VictorW on Apr 24, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do for fantasy purposes…. but for fake life… i would prefer the CUbs and all Managers (besides our beloved Bobby) do the thing that is nonsensical… it makes it easier to win games.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats what i figured…. but isnt that Frenchy’s ceiling…obviously it would be great if he could do that… so far it seems like his two moods are
1) no power but good average (so far in 2009, and 2007)
2) good power but no average (2006)
and we can add option 3) sucking at everything baseball related (2008)
obviously OBP is something he will never excel at.
Im not trying to bash him.. FYF is doing a good job getting hits and seeing pitches… he isnt stirking out as much (although i didnt check the stats on that)… and he seems to be confident… he is a valuable player as he stands… actually he is a younger GAnderson
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha GAnderson is an ever better comparison actually.
It’s good to see FYF at least playing to his skill set and potential, which are hitting for average and some power. I guess as long as people stop having the superstar expectations for him, he can be a pretty good player.
by VictorW on Apr 24, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally OT
But, can I ask a “techy” question?
When you click actions icon at the bottom of a post, what does the Rec icon do? I don’t get a screen tip explaining it and I’ve tried to look at the “Help” links, nothing mentions it at all.
Thanks in advance.
by NCChopper on Apr 22, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rec is short for Recommend. If in the comments, a comment is recommended enough times, the entire comment turns green, and becomes easily viewable to the other users as a “recommended comment.”
If you rec a fanpost enough times, it promotes itself to “Recommended Fanpost” status, which stays there for either two weeks, or if it is the oldest of five recommended fanposts.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much royhobbs.
Nice feature.
by NCChopper on Apr 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone is going to win 60 and lose 60. it really just depends on what we do with the other 40 games. we’re going to be ok.
by FYFs LOBs on Apr 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 59-102 Nationals from last year beg to differ.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol…you ass. He/she makes a good point though, more people should be so relaxed.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always heard it
as 54/54/54.
I think that’s an old Skip’ism. RIP.
Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball
by Yakker on Apr 22, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but . . . 50 eggs is a nice round number.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gonna get used to wearin them chains afer awhile, Luke Roy. Don’t never stop listenin to them clinking. Cuz they gonna remind you of what I been sayin.
For your own good.
Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball
by Yakker on Apr 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for getting the reference.
I still watch this every now and then, and no matter how many times I know he succeeds, it’s so great, it’s still tense all the way to the end.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh, I thought it was Tommy Lasorda who came up with the original quote. I’m probably way off.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 22, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha well if they had played a full 162, they would have gotten there for sure. but you get my point.
by FYFs LOBs on Apr 22, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was just being the ass that that loser Smoltz’s Beard labeled me as.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 22, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Content for now...
After having poured out my frustration over the continued use of Blaine Boyer, It was a relief to see him gone. I’m hoping that the Braves will finally stop taking the whole loyalty thing way far beyond what is reasonable.
So for now, I’m content to wait for the offense to start hitting. I’m ready to give them some time. Not a lot of time, mind you, but some time. We are still in April, after all.
Hope springs eternal, even when we are in the Spring.
by opoverlord on Apr 22, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have high expectations for this Braves team and i think that is why it is so frustrating. Last season i was expecting great things for the club and it ended up being a hard season to watch with all the injuries and one run losses. This season we had a “crazy” off season and some really good signings, so I’m even more excited for this season. With the early season success, it has just been tough on everyone with the last eight or so games. I don’t really post often, I feel like posting is like playing russian roulette sometimes.
You can generally tell how the braves are doing by my mood.
by GwinnettBraves on Apr 22, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I feel the same way, I have been very frustrated by the way the season is going so far. I am not going to start screaming the sky is falling or the Braves need to make a public apology for the way they play in a game. It is early in the season but I also am afraid some of the things we have seen so far, with the bullpen and the LF situation still not really solid are going to haunt us this year.
This is not a time to start freaking out or anything over the Braves record but it also scares me a little the Braves just lost a series to the Pirates and now the Nationals. The starting pitching is great. The bullpen can’t be this bad all year and there have been some nagging injuries that have affected the lineup, so those are reasons for the Braves record right now. I feel like I am watching them now and I seeing a replay of the past three seasons, where the Braves fix a hole or two on the roster but then another problem crops up. I did not think that was the case this year, because I thought the LF situation would work itself out and it may still do that.
I just don’t want any comments I may make on this board seem like complaining or anything, but I just know the team can play better than they currently are and would love to see it happen.
by bengoodfella on Apr 22, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2002 The angels started 6-13 and still won the world series. We would have to drop 5 straight to fall to that mark and even then it is still absolutley accomplishable.
"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"
by Falconzfan284 on Apr 22, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
High expectations
After a great Spring I came into the regular season expecting more. The first few games were Great then we began to fall apart. I am just disapointed in myself for expecting toooooooo much!
I need to be more realistic…..
by HEYJUDE on Apr 22, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I know the reason we have all been so negative.
Last season sucked, plain and simple. Usually after the season ends you have a number of months that are slow and not much baseball-related stuff happens. Unfortunately for the Braves (and us), the offseason was filled with nothing but disappointment. The weeks-long Peavy saga, the Furcal debacle. Ken Griffey Jr. All of them long, dragged out affairs that never seemed to end. It is as if the shitty season we had didn’t end and we are playing in the year 2008.5. The terrible defense and bullpen to start the year is just more of the same.
by BullManUGA on Apr 22, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
High expectations are understandable, but there’s a fine line between “fan” and “poser” …
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Apr 22, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Poetic
and completely right.
I’m still not impressed with GA. VicW is right that he will still be a +1 player. Overall, it’s very early and were a better team than last year. Nice Post.
by Charmin519 on Apr 22, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Notice
How quiet it is the day after a WIN. It’s like you can hear crickets chirping on the intertubes, with nothing to complain about.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A little too quiet…
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 23, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One quote can change that.
It’s Raph…
A little too Raph…
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Donatello have a Maple Bo Staff? Because I hear those things are prone to breaking.
by TexUGAn on Apr 23, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if players wrapped cloth strips around their bats instead of medical tape, they can not only prevent such easy breakage, they can also defend themselves from katanas.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA
+!
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t matter anyway, he’s the coolest no matter what
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'Fuck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on Apr 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when was Donatello so cool? I never knew anybody when I was a kid who liked Donatello.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Apr 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If people were anything like me, they liked that he was the strongest with the most reach in all the video games, and that kind of admiration leaked onto watching the cartoons and movies. But Raph was still my favorite because he was such a dick.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cricket? you gotta know what a crumpet is first....
hahah nice. Donatello was awesome in every game, esp the first one for NES. I always fancied myself more of a Leonardo man myself, not getting many originality points, but what can i say.
by bravesguy311 on Apr 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UH OH! Don’t say that Leonardo was your favorite…..too late….
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for the cricket line
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 23, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did play as him quite a bit in the video game because of his reach. Raph couldn’t do dick and took WAY too much damage.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 23, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Raph just sucks in general.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 23, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Badass
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you draw that?
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Apr 23, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
photobucket
but i did draw my share of turtles back in the day.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Apr 23, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are gigantic hands and a tiny head.
by soup du jour on Apr 23, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s also a, y’know, turtle.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Don because he was the smart one
"When life gives you lemons, just say 'Fuck the lemons,' and bail."
by Bravely going forward on Apr 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s a fact, Jack.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+3.14
i was hoping someone would get that
by bravesguy311 on Apr 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
off day.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Apr 23, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true, but it doesn’t change the fact that had we lost yesterday, then we would be subject to two days of bitching and moaning until the next game.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the exact nature of a loss though. If the situation had been reversed and Buddy Carlyle had walked the bases loaded and then walked a run in, we would be utterly pissed off.
by BullManUGA on Apr 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is people come out in droves whenever there’s a loss, but it’s as quiet as a mouse the day after a win.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can complain about the sick bats if you want…
by BullManUGA on Apr 23, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah. I prefer the Turtles over any repetitive whining.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
i decided to enjoy the win and ignore the fact that we still aren’t hitting.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Apr 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We aren’t hitting when nobody is on base but before last night out RISP AVG was .369. Not too bad if you ask me.
by BullManUGA on Apr 23, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welll if no one is hitting with no one on base… then our opportunities with runners on base is limited… so its good we are hitting in this extermely limited ABs… but in the end that 369 avg still doest result in that many runs…if you follow that rant/ramble
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Sort of a catch 22 thing. We can’t get anyone on base but we are hitting good with people on base.
by BullManUGA on Apr 23, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point is that no one starts fanposts to talk about the terrific plate discipline that some of our guys showed in the 9th inning or how well JJ pitched.
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats because if they do that, they are living up to expectations. The Braves are supposed to go 162-0, with a shutout every night. Anything less would be a failure. It would be like getting all excited because the sun rose.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Apr 23, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s ridiculous, but you’re probably right…
Braves 2009 offense: in play, out(s)
Braves 2009 bullpen: in play, run(s)
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 23, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ve been using today to catch up on about 2 months worth of missed failblog. Good thing i’m the only one in the office because I can laugh like an idiot and nobody hears me.
"Ohhhh Shit."-Bobby Cox, 3/28/09
by 10-4 on Apr 23, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHHHH
your gonna wake the babies….
by bravesguy311 on Apr 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heres a little food for thought.
This team has lost 7 of 9 games…and is STILL in second place, 4 games back of Florida (who is I believe 6-5 against all non-Nationals teams). Think about that for a second.
SWAGGA LIKE...whoever the fuck is not walking people
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club
by bigjoe on Apr 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ya but 3 of those 5 losses are against the Pirates… i could be wrong but the Pirates are not exactly a force to be reckoned with… I dont knkow if this supports you argument or hurts it… but its worth noting
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pirates lead the NL in ERA despite being last in strikeouts.
So yeah, thats something.
SWAGGA LIKE...whoever the fuck is not walking people
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club
by bigjoe on Apr 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont disagree… but they also have no offense to speak of… although u generally win games when u shut the other team out.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They actually have a higher OPS than us, right in the middle of the pack.
SWAGGA LIKE...whoever the fuck is not walking people
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club
by bigjoe on Apr 24, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt say we have an offense… but i also didnt spend the 20 seconds (-1 to me) to look at the data… i just assumed any offense consisting of Jack Wilson would be horrendous. Apparently they are averag and I knew their pitching was doing well… but that doesnt excuse the Marlins gettin swept
but if u take our record against teams that dont reside in DC we are 3-6… which is well bad… Albeit 2 of the three wins were in Philly … so thats a big plus
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jack Wilson is essentially a platoon player, so yeah. I didn’t see him once last weekend.
SWAGGA LIKE...whoever the fuck is not walking people
President, CEO, and chairman of the Brandon Jones fan club
by bigjoe on Apr 24, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is sixth on the team in ABs. the only other SS on the team is Vasquez and he has half the ABs as WIlson… I am not privy to how much he played against us… i didnt get to see any of the games… but he is a starter for all intents and purposes, according to almost everything depth chart ive seen
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
I’m pretty sure the only things I’ve complained about are:
1) Garrett Anderson
2) The noted lack of Adam Dunn
And really, who doesn’t agree with me on those points? I do most of my complaining during the games, either to myself or to whomever happens to be watching with me, and it usually sounds like this: “Wow, nice play Diaz. think Garrett Anderson woulda made that?”
by FineHamAbounds on Apr 24, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what!?!?!?
we don’t have ADam DUnn!!!!… SON OF A BITCH!
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Apr 24, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as for you
my sarcasm rules…
oh, in a more serious (yet just as light) tone, I hit 2 hrs in our last game (1 was a GS!) with that LS bat I told you about…
I am currently shopping for a freak 98 though. Or a combat…if I can find one for cheap.
Penis
by justincredubil02 on Apr 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
I have only complained that we didnt trade for God Pujols
Penis
by justincredubil02 on Apr 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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