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Braves have two of the top-five prospects in baseball

Baseball America, the most trusted source for prospect analysis, released their top-100 minor league prospects for 2009 today, and the Braves were very well represented. Ranking right behind Matt Wieters, David Price, and Colby Rasmus, are our top two prospects Tommy Hanson (ranked fourth) and Jason Heyward (ranked fifth). This is the first time two Braves have been ranked in the top-five, and only the second time that two Braves have appeared in the top-ten since the rankings started in 1990 (the other time was in 1992 when Chipper Jones was ranked fourth and Ryan Klesko was ranked ninth).

Also appearing on the top-100 list were both Braves center field prospects. Jordan Schafer ranks 42nd, a considerable fall from his ranking of 25th in last year's top-100, and Gorkys Hernandez moves up from 92nd a year ago to 62nd in this year's list. Freddie Freeman rounds out this year's crop of Braves at number-87.

Also ranked last year were Jason Heyward who was ranked 28th, Jair Jurrjens was ranked 49th, and Brandon Jones was 70th.

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While most of us already know we have a great system, this is some nice reassurance.

by eaheckman10 on Feb 24, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

The best part is the organization has another group of guys with the talent to jump into these lists next year. Locke, Rohrbough, DeVall, Teheran, Delgado, Kimbrel, etc. We have the high ceiling talent to augment the group of more complimentary type young guys we already have in the big leagues. Just a very deep system.

"Fools rush in where fools have been before"

by jeg on Feb 24, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

I agree…I believe Teheran and Delgado could make HUGE jumps if they put in descent season next year…

...catsports...

by bwellnjonesco on Feb 24, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Rohrbough

And Rohr is about to blow up bigger than shit in the minors. He’s about to go Hanson on us.

by bravesfan91 on Feb 25, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

But, But

Furman Bisher wrote that we have traded away all of our young talent…how can we POSSIBLY have top prospects when they all went to texas for Tiexiera. The title of his article is “Braves failing to keep farm stocked”.

LOL!!!

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bisher/entries/2008/12/05/braves_failing_to_keep_farm_st.html

"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Someone email him the link to the BP article and see if he replies.

"Break's over"

by VegasAces on Feb 24, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll do it

But, I can’t find a link to his email. Does anyone know how/where to email him?

"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

haha!

"Break's over"

by VegasAces on Feb 24, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

We should have signed Adam Dunn.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 24, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

AWESOME!

Literal LOL from me!

"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No words. Should have sent…a poet.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 24, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 24, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll see what I can find...

because I’d love to email him myself and call him out. If I can obtain his addy, I’ll throw it up on here, or if Gondee isn’t comfortable with it we can start a thread on my blog and rail his ass all day. Wait, what?

by TheSportsIdiot on Feb 24, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Stairs would love to be a part of that. I hear he loves it when guys are hammering on his ass.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Feb 24, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Haha, I laughed my ass off when I saw that last season…and it’s still funny now.

We should have signed Adam Dunn.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 24, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 24, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would be the next crop of talent to crack the Top 100 in 10'?

 Teheran,Locke,Rohrbough,DeVall,Spruill, or Kimbrel??

Thoughts? Projections?

by Hanson-Ace on Feb 24, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Rohrbough

He seems to have more upside than Locke and Teheran is too far away / injury-prone. The exciting thing is, they all seem to have the talent to get there.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Feb 24, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Locke and Rohrbough definitely make it with continued improvement. Locke was in Law’s top-100, so my guess is he and Rohrbough are just on the outside of BA’s top-100. Medlen could crack it, and I think Kimbrel will, though relief prospects are not always given their due.

It will be interesting who comes out of that group of young pitchers we have and ascends to the next level. There are so many, Francis, Thompson, Hoover, Spruill, DeVall, Stovall, Sullivan, Clemens… the list goes on. I’ve got to think that one or two of those guys can make the list. I’m also interested to see if our Rasmus can come back, as well as Evarts — both of them are scout faves.

by gondeee on Feb 24, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Surprised to see Rasmus that high.

We should have signed Adam Dunn.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 24, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Ditto

I was a bit surprised by that as well. Considering the “reported” attitude problems and the lack of performance in2008 I feel he’s a bit high here. I’m all for not over penalizing him for these issues, but he has to be penalized some.

"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST

by scstrato on Feb 24, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The good news is that Heyward should be the number 1 prospect in baseball next year. It’s hard to disagree with the top 2 players although I think Hanson should be ahead of Rasmus. I read that he was supposed to make to debut last year but didn’t. Nice to see Schafer at 42 thats about where he should be. I was really surprised to see Hernandez at 62. I really thought that Freeman should have been higher than 87.

by jack dein on Feb 24, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

and you call yourselves braves fans

these guys are unproven in the big leagues! we should not be excited, we should be happy with who we have on the team already.

/mocking

"Have you ever had your heart broken?"
"Yeah, when we lost the pennant in '87."

by jug on Feb 24, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Elvis and Flowers

A little more evidence that we are running a prospect surplus, the only two traded prospects I noticed on this list were Elvis Andrus and Tyler Flowers, barely making the cut at 99. Tyler is gone because we have McCann, and Elvis went in the Teixeira deal. And a player that isn’t even on the list is Matt Harrison, the pitcher that went in the Tex deal that folks said should have been untouchable. It seems to me that the farm scouts are still serviceable…

by johnsbravos on Feb 24, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

Andrus is ok, I’m sure he’ll be a good quality player, but the guy everyone talks about is Neftali Feliz…..he’s the one that could hurt us out of that Tex deal.

by jwrocks on Feb 24, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

What about Harrison?

I know he wasnt great last year, but is it the general consensus that everyone has given up on his development? Also, I have a feeling that Salty will come around too…no proof of this, just a mother’s intuition…

"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Just based on talent alone and from what Law and other ESPN/Baseball heads have talked about, they felt Feliz could be the steal. His progress and numbers haven’t lied, he could be something special. Although he could flame out like Merkin Valdez/Jose Capellan, other hard throwers who haven’t/didn’t do anything in the majors.

Harrison could be alright, he’ll be at least given a chance to see what he could do. Salty also.

by jwrocks on Feb 24, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to whomever replied to mine earlier

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 24, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone else wary...

…of putting guys like Posey and Alvarez so high, when they haven’t even used wooden bats against professional talent? I would want a player to get some at-bats before I judge their talents. It seems like a big transition. Can anyone shed some light on this subject?

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Feb 24, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

Ever since ESPN

ran that story about how Posey played every position in one game, I have had a negative attitude towards him. He may be a great talent, but I thought that was an extremely selfish “me first” thing to do. I have, since then, deep down inside hoped that he flops as a prospect.

"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is that selfish? I didn’t read the article, so maybe I missed something, but usually when that happens, the whole team is for it and it kind of unites everyone.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 24, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe "selfish" wasnt the correct term

but there is just something about a player being willing to do something as pointless as playing every position for an inning in college against a far inferior team that just screams “showboat” to me. There is no reason for it. It is just a gimmick to get national attention. If your game itself doesnt get you as much attention as you want/deserve, then just play every position in one game (and let’s be honest, it isnt that hard of a thing to do – especially at the college level).

Now, If he made the All-American team from 4 different positions during his college career, that would be something, but just going out and standing in LF for 3 outs (which, btw, he didnt record any of them that particular inning) isn’t impressive to me.

I just don’t like gimmicks in sports.

"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok. Fair enough. I get where you’re coming from. Personally, I’ve always thought it’s cool when it happens, and they guys who do it are always pretty proud of it. But, we all have our things.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 24, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand your stance, but I don’t really have a problem with rating college players who haven’t played yet that high. Even with the aluminum bats, you can tell who’s a good hitter and who’s a lucky hitter. There are mechanics involved in how a good hitter hits and how he makes contact, that are the same regardless of what the bat is made of.

I was watching a college game the other day with the White Sox’s Dexter Carter, a pitcher who is just about to enter his second year of pro ball. Every other hit he was complaining about the guys getting a hit because of the aluminum bat. And he was right, they weren’t hitting the fat part of the bat, but the ball was springing off the bat anyway and giving them hits that would never happen at the pro level. A guy hit a homer and Dexter goes, “Now see, that’s a homer no matter what.”

The mechanics of hitting are something that are consistent, and I think talent evaluators, or anyone really, can see this. I don’t think I’ve seen Posey, but I do remember seeing Alvarez a few times on TV, and he looked like a solid hitter. I think you might be right, they probably are ranked too high over guys who have actually played, and there’s a better chance that they won’t play as well as they’re projected too. But, since they’ve played against college level pitchers, and people have identified them as having the necessary hitting skills, I’m inclined to share the view of them as elite prospects.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 24, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn't thought about the "Sweet Stroke" theory...

…but it makes sense. If a guy has a good swing in college, he’ll have a good swing in the pros. And if his approach is good, that will also translate well.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Feb 24, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

CCL

Most of these players (the college ones anyway) do have experience hitting with wood bats against good talent – the top college players usually go to the Cape Cod League in the summer to play against other top amateurs, and they use wooden bats (and there are tons of MLB scouts there as well).

by a5ehren on Feb 24, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a good point, and the Cape Cod League isn’t the only summer wood bat league, there are tons of them.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 24, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget about the Alaskan Baseball League!!!

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Feb 25, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s a picture of Melden in that uniform somewhere around the internets.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 25, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.goldpanners.com/Scrapbook/m/medlen-kris_05.htm

He also played 3rd base for them.

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Feb 26, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, now that you pointed that out, I’m getting one of those team sets. It’s sweet when you’ve got a dude’s college card, they flip. I had one of Tommy Hanson from the Corailis Knights summer league team and he couldn’t believe it.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 26, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Hell yeah! They have tons of player sets!!! I’ll let you know if I make it up to Alaska this summer, I might be able to get some for cheap for you!

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Mar 2, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Also had...

The Ring of Fire

http://www.goldpanners.com/Scrapbook/r/ring-royce_00.htm

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Feb 26, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, look how shitty that Easton bat is…

We should have signed Adam Dunn.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 25, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I <3 prospect lists (I am less than three prospect lists)

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 24, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

FYI, it was only one writer on BA that had Hanson & Heyward 4-5. There are 3 lists in the annual prospect book, and the other 2 have them both top 20 or so.

SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES

by bigjoe on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

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