Braves move forward in the outfield with what they've got
At the beginning of the off-season, Frank Wren identified three areas the Atlanta Braves needed to improve upon to make the team more competative; starting pitching, left field, and backup catcher. We certainly solved the starting pitching side of things, adding three new starters and bringing back the veteran Tom Glavine. We also added a very solid backup catcher in David Ross. But left field remains a void unfilled.
There have been many rumored options, Ryan Ludwick, Xavier Nady, Nick Swisher, Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, Rick Ankiel, and Ken Griffey Jr. -- none of which we ended up with. We will be returning the same group of players who did not impress last season. The team has resigned itself to see what it has internally:
"I think we have a variety of guys that can add something to the equation, whether it's speed, defense, pop, all-around play," Braves general manager Frank Wren said. "Each of the guys who will be out there competing adds something a little different, which is all positive for us. I think at the end of [Spring Training], it will be a decision about who adds the most in that role."
Wren hasn't ruled out the possibility that he could look to make a trade in the next few weeks if he and Cox get a sense that they need to alter their plans to internally fill their outfield voids.
While I'm not positive that what we have internally will be enough, I am also on the side of waiting to see what they can do and making a decision on how to move forward towards the end of spring training.
One of the big pieces of an improved outfield is an improved Jeff Francoeur, but his comments continue to illicit an uneasy feeling:
"As bad as an outfield as we were last year, we'll be good this year," Francoeur said. "I'd like to think I'm going to hit more than 11 homers this year."
Yes Jeff, we'd like to "think" you're going to hit more homeruns too (and beyond that do all the other things that you're not doing offensively).
It will be an interesting spring to see if Jordan Schafer is ready for the big leagues. To see if Gregor Blanco can add more value to his game. To see if Matt Diaz is ready to be more than a platoon hitter. To see if Josh Anderson gets a chance to be an everyday player. But just those four guys don't seem like enough. Even if we added Greg Norton and perhaps, as I suggested yesterday, Brooks Conrad to the mix, that still doesn't seem like enough. Now we just have to hope that the Braves don't waste half a season trying to figure out if this crew can cut it before they make a move for the right fit.
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Nobody gives a shit how many HRs you want to hit FYF, how about worrying about not making 1000 outs again this season.
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
cbwilk
Shakes his head at this supportive comment
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Feb 20, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, you called it. That was my exact reaction. But he beard does make a good point.
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by cbwilk on Feb 20, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a corner OF. He needs to hit 20-25 HR. He’s sure not gonna wow us with his OBP, even if it improves dramatically.
by MikeinAtlanta on Feb 20, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t need to hit any specific number of HRs. There are plenty of solid corner OFs that aren’t strict mashers. If FYF only hits ~20 HRs every season that will be fine, but he’s also got to tack on 35+ doubles. To me it seems like he’s stressing way too much in RBI situations, he just needs to realize that the RBIs will come.
As far as his OBP is concerned, we’ve got some cause for optimism since his BB% stayed the same from 2007-2008…despite how disastrous his season went.
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 21, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I probably mis-spoke by giving specific numbers. I do think he needs to SLUG a lot better, because even at his best, his OBP is likely to be mediocre. A return to his 2007 numbers – even though just above league average, would be a huge plus for the Braves. And I am optimistic that he can do that.
On the RBI situations, he was so good his first 2.5 years with RISP, gotta hope that the terrible numbers in ’08 where just an inevitable adjustment.
by MikeinAtlanta on Feb 22, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
While I certainly hope that he can rebound and put up another 2007-type season, his BABIP that year was in the .340s so I think to a certain extent he got lucky. If you buy into the formula, his BABIP should have been right around .315 and that hurts his numbers quite a bit if you take it into account.
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 23, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Separate category?
Perhaps there should be a separate option between trading for, or signing an outfielder?
Not that I’m particularly pleased with the remaining OF free agents there are, but I’d much rather prefer to sign one, than trade away any players for the allegedly available OF options on other teams.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Feb 20, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
DURRRR I’M GONNA HIT MORE HOMERS AND BE A BETTER PLAYER! I WANNA BE LIKE RYAN HOWARD
SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES
by bigjoe on Feb 20, 2009 10:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Clearly, Francoeur has issues. How about considering hitting to right field as a major issue?
If you ask me, his biggest problem is standing up too straight. He really needs to spread out more and crouch to get lower to the ball and shrink his HUGE strike zone. Yeah, I know he’s not perfectly straight up but that’s not my point. I say he doesn’t crouch enough.
I’m no ball player… Mainly a wiffle ball specialist ;-) but I see the ball so much better when I’m lower in my stance. I can’t hit squat standing straight up. I causes me to lunge and loop the bat too much.
Besides, how are you supposed to hit a high fastball when you can’t get up any higher?
Sorry if I’m getting off topic a bit…
I already posted this in the DOB thread so I won’t repeat it here but I’ll just say that I don’t think we have any effective options for LF and it’s likely we will end up making a trade by opening day for someone like Luke Scott from Baltimore. Someone relatively cheap and relatively unspectacular. Oh well, here’s to 2010 and 2011!!!
by proeye on Feb 20, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You perplex me
You say “why not spend the money?” Yet you want to pursue someone who is, by your own account, “relatively unspectacular.” IMO, we already have 2-4 relatively unspectacular OFs.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 20, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad
DOB had a good point yesterday or the day before. With the 3 millionish that the Braves still have, they can get a guy making 6 million/yr half way through the season. Or two guys making 3 million/yr half way through the season.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 20, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting accounting...
But what good does that do us for the first half? Does this mean we should play minor leaguers for a half a season every season to save on payroll? LOL
Geez… How about just spending the money? Wow, the Braves sure have changed over the years haven’t they?
by proeye on Feb 20, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t buy into the people on here who are talking about waiting till the trade deadline to find a LF…by then it will probably be too late.
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Does this mean we should play minor leagues for half a season every season to save on payroll?"
No. Diaz and Norton haven’t been in the minor leagues for quite some time. Blanco was w/ the big league club most of last year. Anderson/Schafer/B. Jones are “minor league players” (currently), I’ll give you that, but Anderson has impressed at the big-league level (small sample size though) and Schafer is far from some random “minor league player.”
The idea is that some players who aren’t named Xavier, Jim, Garret, or Nick will become available as the trade deadline approaches and non-contenders start “building for the future.”
I understand the desire to put the best team on the field, but it isn’t like FW’s desk is piled high w/ offers. Sure, we could sign Edmonds or Anderson, but do you honestly believe we’re one Garret Anderson or Jim Edmonds away from a championship? There’s always Nady/Swisher, but I think it’s fairly apparent that the prospects they want aren’t prospects that FW is currently willing to unload.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 20, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We did it in 2007 at first, and that worked out um…yeah, bad example.
SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES
by bigjoe on Feb 20, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To look at the glass half-full
This is, basically, the same group we ended the season with, an offense that was 3rd best in the league in the 2nd half and led the league in OBP. Our pitching in the 2nd half was the absolute worst in the league and our pitching has been greatly improved since then.
An outfield with Anderson and Blanco along with a slimmed down Francoeur should provide really good defense.
Hopefully Franco-OPS relations will improve.
Blanco put up a .464 OBP in winter ball.
Diaz should be better than he was last year, now that he’s back in a platoon role. He basically had a bad month and then got hurt, I’m not ready write him off as a contributor just yet.
When Schafer is deemed ready, we should be able to put him in CF, adding a great defender and, hopefully, replacing whichever OF is hitting the worst.
Our infield is really good, and I expect Escobar, KJ, and Kotchman to be better than they were last year.
by Lennox on Feb 20, 2009 6:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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