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Chipper Jones: Atlanta Braves 2009 Player Preview

We kick off our 2009 Atlanta Braves player profiles with the leader of the offense, Chipper Jones. It's not that hard to preview Chipper, the guy hit .364 last year and won the NL Batting Title. In his late 30's Chipper is not regressing as some players do, he is instead finding new ways to help the team as his body tries to remind him how old he is.

While Chipper was never a top-flight homerun hitter, the years when he could be expected to hit 30-plus homeruns are likely behind him. Chipper will probably tell you that he's never thought of himself as a homerun hitter, but more of a guy who hits for average, and as the years roll on that's exactly what he's becoming more and more like. But that's not a bad thing. Every lineup needs its professional hitters like Chipper... what we hope to get more of this year is more days when the lineup includes that professional hitter.

It seems like an inevitability each season that Jones will miss two or three or more weeks of games due to injury. The health problems and nagging injuries have been well chronicled with Chipper, so there's no real point of going into all the details. The thing we should keep in mind is that while he may be getting more brittle in his old age, he wants to play for several more years, and that drive and desire should push him to play through more injuries and condition himself to avoid old injuries from reoccurring.

All off-season we searched for a cleanup hitter to hit behind Chipper, but that hitter never materialized. Without that extra big bat, it makes the most sense for the Braves to bat Chipper fourth in the lineup. It may surprise many to learn that Chipper has played almost a fourth of his games batting cleanup, and his numbers hardly go down. In fact the 20-point drop in average (from .316 to .297) and the 30-point drop in slugging (from .557 to .528) from the third spot to the fourth spot could be a product of one bad year in 2004 hitting fourth and his last two years hitting third when he reached new career highs. The verdict should be that there is no drop-off in Chipper's production when he moves down one spot in the order.

We'll have to see where he plays, but my money is on Chipper hitting fourth as the steadying influce in a lineup that may find different hitters in the three-hole (Escobar, Johnson) and five-hole (McCann, Kotchman). One more reason for Braves fans to be excited about Chipper Jones this year, it's a contract year.

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I’d rather he get as many ABs as possible, and that number goes down every time you drop a spot. Do you really get more chances to drive in runs batting cleanup?

by TradeAndruw on Feb 20, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed. The only way I want Chipper to hit cleanup is if someone with a solid BB% will be taking his place is the top-3 of the order.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m with you here. Chipper needs to hit #3.

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by mattdiaz4life on Feb 20, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Also agreed

Chipper misses enough ABs due to injury. We all know that the Braves need him in the lineup to be successfull, so why take more ABs away when he is healthy?

by Andy Braves Fan on Feb 20, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s more important that he be the steadying influence in the clean-up spot, despite the fact that he might miss some games.

by gondeee on Feb 20, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m wondering. He may get to hit with men on the first time through the order. After that, who knows. Are there more RBI chances when you move down to 4 or 5? One of the sabermetric types on here should know.

by TradeAndruw on Feb 20, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about that...

but the #4 hitter is the 2nd most likely to lead off an inning after the #1 spot. Some have contended that OBP is actually more important in the cleanup slot than the 3 for that reason.

by BraveBronco0121 on Feb 20, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

4th is better than 3rd for your best hitter

Ultimately, it matters very little, but the explanation I heard is that batting 3rd gives you too many 2 out, nobody on situations and the extra 20 or so PAs don’t make up for that.

"OBP is not a production number, and should not be used as something he achieved."

by VictorW on Feb 20, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Chipper should really hit second and McCann third, that way they’re getting as many PA’s as possible.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Feb 20, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

"One more reason for Braves fans to be excited about Chipper Jones this year, it's a contract year."

Umm… That last line killed this post for me. If there’s anything we’ve learned about Chipper in the past, it’s that contracts and money are a lot lower on the priority totem poll than helping the team win. It’s not just a coincidence that he restructured his contract so the Braves could be competitive a couple years ago. It’s been harder and harder to except the annual injuries, but one would have a hard time saying he doesn’t play injured. Chipper has always been about what’s best for the Braves.
Maybe I’m naive to see Chipper as a throw-back; one of those old-school players with high integrity and a vision for the game. A realization that no matter what the contract, no matter the money, no matter what the situation; be the same person day in and day out.
Further proof of this fact is when Smoltz left this season. Chipper had an epiphany- “The business of baseball goes on, and no matter how loyal you are as a player, no matter how much you sacrificed as a player for a particular organization, there comes a time when that organization wants to go a different direction. And that time is now for Smoltzy, and I would imagine that my time is not too far off in the distant future.”
I would be more inclined to think the Braves to be of this type of thinking… Chipper has always been a team leader. His priorities on the field are no exception here.

by awilliams16 on Feb 20, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

i dont think Gondee was implying CHipper will perform better cause its a contract year, just merely mentioning it.. i agree CHipper seems like a throwback and will play hard no matter what his contract situation is.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, let’s not forget the switch from 3rd base to left field in order to clear room for a “better fielding” 3rd baseman. Chipper going to left field have left some people speculating whether or not he’d have as many injuries if he’d said “no” and stayed at 3rd. He’s a fan of baseball and a fan of the Braves. Everyone knows what a addict of blogs and hot stove Chipper is… How could anyone sum up a post with… It’s a contract year: “Chipper will hit better now…”
When has a contract ever trumped his love of the game…?

by awilliams16 on Feb 20, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

not to argue, but well here we go… i thought Chipper moved to left becsause Castillo wasnt a better fieldign 3B but a worse fielding LF than Chipper would be.. and since it was easier for him to move he did it. hardly the pt of the post but still

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I don’t see a contract year meaning anything to Chipper, performance-wise. And besides, how in the world could he be expected to hit better than last year?

by WienerDog on Feb 20, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he could hit better, but its gonna be tough.. i just want him to hit the same, but more (if that makes any sense)

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Please don't bat Yunel anywhere other than leadoff or near the end of the lineup.

His Derek Lowe-like groundball tendencies are double plays waiting to happen, especially in RBI slots. I just hope Yunel doesn’t do the swing at the first pitch thing he during his last stint at leadoff.

"OBP is not a production number, and should not be used as something he achieved."

by VictorW on Feb 20, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I wrote this a couple of days ago and had Griffey penciled in there… I of course had to come up with someone else, and I imagined I’d get castigated if I suggested Frenchy bat third.

by gondeee on Feb 20, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

he would see better pitches ahead of chipper

by Brandonba on Feb 20, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure that hitting third or fourth makes much difference in this line up.

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by proeye on Feb 21, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

the top of our lineup is actually pretty good its 5-6(depending on where McCann hits) onwards

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

McCann..

…depending on the pitcher. He hits 5th against righties, 6th against lefties, at least that’s the way it was the last couple of years for the most part.

by RainDelay on Feb 22, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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