Tim Hudson has words with David O'Brien
From an AP report on Yahoo:
But there was clearly some bitterness over the turn of events, some of it directed at media outlets that reported Griffey had decided to play for Atlanta. Pitcher Tim Hudson got into a heated argument in the clubhouse with a newspaper reporter, claiming his story angered Griffey and led him to back out of dealings with the Braves. A team official had to step in and lead Hudson to a back room.
The reporter is obviously David O'Brien, who is still without remorse and completely clueless as to what his impact might have been:
You guys need to get out of the house more often if you really believe that story had anything to do with Griffey changing his mind. Seriously.
Seriously there is more than one person who believes D-Fab had something to do with making Griffey's mind up. In reality D-Fab is taking the heat for the failure of the entire AJC sports department, including Terrence Moore and the sports editor and headline writer. But it was O'Brien's insistence and his repeated comments that Griffey was a done deal that should be the reason for the most critisism.
D-Fab seems to have gotten sucked into a kind of group-think surrounding the Braves, seeing only the positive reasons why Griffey could be coming to the Braves. Give credit to other journalists, Mark Bowman among them, who did not assume the Griffey deal was done and continued to ask questions and dig into the real facts of the story.
O'Brien, while a nice guy, is rather smug and full of himself, especially when he's in the clubhouse and around the team. He wears that label as the only beat writer on the only major paper in Atlanta on his sleeve at all times, and doesn't let you forget it. Remember, it's not hard to break stories when there are only two or three other beat writers around the team full time (and really just one other, Bowman). Yet there was a perceived need to go out on an uncertain limb with this story, without anything other than one source.
I have a feeling this may not be the end of this story and the discord between O'Brien and the Braves clubhouse.
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I'm with O'Brien...
… it just doesn’t make logical sense that a future Hall of Fame baseball player would base his decision off the fact that his friend talked to a Atlanta paper and that Atlanta paper reported some erroneous information based off the trustworthiness of his friend. Was it a bad decision? Yes. But, it just doesn’t make sense to believe that Griffey would act like an ass and flip off the Braves because of a reporter getting ahold of some misinformation.
Oh, Bobby.
by sdp on Feb 19, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Right
Three things:
1. They gave him incentive money. We did not.
2. One some level, he probably felt like he could spend less time on the DL this year by DHing his way to August.
3. They offered him the opportunity to coach after his playing career. That probably wasn’t even FW’s radar.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DOB's blog is dysfunctional currently
But how do we know it was DOB? Couldn’t it have been Terry Moore?
DOB’s blog is only showing the most recent 100 comments. So I’m not sure whether he commented on it. Anyone know?
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Terence Moore didn’t report the story. O’Brien’s name was on the article, so I’m pretty sure it was Hudson vs. O’Brien.
Oh, Bobby.
by sdp on Feb 19, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But Terry is the one who heard it from Griffey’s friend. O’Brien broke the story, and I think he probably regrets it, even if he won’t admit it.
Bottom line: It was Terry’s source.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true
The article was co-authored by the two, or at least both names were on it. Click here. And FrankyWren was correct, it was Terry’s source.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He came on a few minutes ago and said it was about Griffey and 40 man speculation, but mostly about Griffey. Earlier in the afternoon, before it got deleted by the glitch, he asked his audience not to ask anymore about 40 man speculation, because he heard about it from Tim Hudson. Bowman did the same speculation, but he must have gotten away with it.
I agree though, if this kind of thing drove Griffey away, we don’t need him. Most don’t want him anyway.
by 10-4 on Feb 19, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
… even AJC’s IT department blows.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lay-off DOB
First off the Hudson thing. I have also read that Hudson was mad at a reporter for naming players they though would be dropped from the 40 man to make room for Glav and Griffey. I give Hudson more credit than to think he would get mad at that because the idea of it is ridiculous.
On to Griffey. My guess is that he wanted the fact that he was leaning towards the Braves kept quiet so he could handle the M’s the way he wanted to. It got out by a close friend of his (and remember the M’s beat writer wrote the same thing as DOB and he had different sources), and that upset him because he wasnt 100% sure yet. Then the upgraded offer from the M’s along with talks with Hank and Willie about his legacy probably shifted him to choose the M’s. I cant blame him for that. DOB reported his opinion that it would happen on his blog based on info he got from Terry Moore (AJC). Then some moron misread the article and titled it incorrectly. DOB was just reporting the news. Any reporter with a reliable source such as another respected reporter from his own paper would have reported it. I cant fault DOB for that.
In the end if this story truly did change Griffey’s mind…the he’s got issues. I just dont see how that would be the issue.
by MikeJolly on Feb 19, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The moron who misread the article/titled the article ...
Dude is probably unemployed today.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Jolly i completely agree with you, i have no idea why O’Brien is being ripped on here.
by ktal23 on Feb 19, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"I'm telling you ... Diaz, Jones, and Norton aren't good enough! What are you doing here Teix? Cashman is gonna kill you ..."

"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also...
… the Seattle Times reported the same story. He didn’t get pissed at the Mariners, did he? No. First and foremost, this was all about money. Griffey approached a team looking for an outfielder in attempt to show the Mariners that competition existed in attempt to get Seattle to sugar up his deal, and it worked. After that, it’s about legacy and emotions.
Oh, Bobby.
by sdp on Feb 19, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Huddy go that pissed off over this
he needs anger management.
If Griff chose the Mariners over the Bravos because of this, then we dont need that kind of a drama queen on our team.
If all of you blame DoB for reporting this, then you need to realize that he is a BLOGGER just like Gondee and even like all of us here. He BLOGS and tells his opinions.
"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -
by justincredubil02 on Feb 19, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's a little more than a blogger...
Oh, Bobby.
by sdp on Feb 19, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. There are better ways to say/prove that it wasn't DOB's fault.
1. More incentive money.
2. Don’t have to play the field.
3. Get to coach after he retires.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But unlike anyone here, D-Fab has access and can talk to insider info, which no one else can do. Blog or not, a professional sports writer’s blog is taken as copy. Don’t forget that he breaks news on there, tests out stories on there, gives out more than his opinion.
by gondeee on Feb 19, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fair ...
But the comment section of his blog isn’t on AJC’s front page (of the sports section). I know I’m not the only one who checks his blog comments daily to get a tid bit or two.
He’s walking a fine line, but nobody forces us to give his blog so much credit. We could wait for a major league source to break the story, yet it’s somehow comforting to get “the scoop” 20-30 minutes before ESPN reports it. It’s the age we live in.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt you've seen my reply in the other thread yet
But again, the story was reported as an Article by an AJC Journalist (the proof is here) not on his blog. I could see your point if this had been just a blog entry, or blog comment, but that is not the case.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saw it ...
That does make a difference. Not exactly responsible reporting by either.
I’ll forgive and forget w/ DOB, as he contributes a worthwhile tid bit or two on a regular basis. Terry Moore is worthless though.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't blame the guy
for trying to give his readers first crack at a scoop. But I think the suggestion that he was merely providing his opinion on what COULD or MIGHT happen is weak, at best. And I think much of the criticism he’s receiving stems from what seems to be his inability to own up to making a mistake. That and he’s an arrogant ass.
by hoboken_wood on Feb 19, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone
know when gondee is going to start posting the player previews
by jack dein on Feb 19, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, but seriously, soon. I was going to start Monday, but got derailed by a little thing called Griffey-gate. I think Chipper will go up tomorrow, then onward from there.
by gondeee on Feb 19, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
you still have to get sober(ish) from all the bud ice and a boone’s farm
"Have you ever had your heart broken?"
"Yeah, when we lost the pennant in '87."
by jug on Feb 19, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm…I should lay off the boone’s farm myself…I’ve got an extraneous “a” in there.
"Have you ever had your heart broken?"
"Yeah, when we lost the pennant in '87."
by jug on Feb 19, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And you’re using words like ‘extraneous’.
by soup du jour on Feb 20, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and probably not correctly.
"Have you ever had your heart broken?"
"Yeah, when we lost the pennant in '87."
by jug on Feb 20, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, Bud Ice…good lord, that takes me back
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bud Ice is awesome when you wanna get sloshed on the cheap. Much love.
SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES
by bigjoe on Feb 20, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PBR
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Feb 20, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PBR
Is an overrated cheap beer. I hate how it is like a trendy beer now, and honestly it isn’t that good or that cheap. I’d rather have busch light for the same price.
no offense if that is your brew… I know it is too high class for gondeee though.
"Have you ever had your heart broken?"
"Yeah, when we lost the pennant in '87."
by jug on Feb 20, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
I would rather drink goat’s piss than PBR. I find it amusing that it’s also like the hipster-trendy beer that guys/girls/androgynous in skinny jeans and Weezer glasses drink, as well as the preferred brew of rednecks. Couldn’t possibly hit two contrasting demographics that hard.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Feb 20, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love the Blue Ribbon
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 21, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup…pretty much exactly what I used it for. And during those very dark times in college I would use Natty Ice. Remember me and a couple friends thought it would be a good idea to do a power hour with Natty Ice before going to a party. Turned into a power two hours and we weren’t at the party 30 mins before my friend threw up on the floor (the kids who owned the house simply put the keg over the puke…classy).
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I give (should say gave, probably could drink it nowadays) preference to Keystone Ice over Natty or Bud Ice.
Funny how it seems like I never get in on the convos about baseball or braves, just movies and booze.
"Have you ever had your heart broken?"
"Yeah, when we lost the pennant in '87."
by jug on Feb 20, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Old Milwaukee Best Ice....
or Old English 8.0
best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)
by mvandonsel on Feb 22, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes.
I can imagine how this went down.
Tim Hudson: Snide remark about Griffey to DOB.
DOB: What? I didn’t do anything wrong. I was doing my job.
Tim: Yeah? Well your job cost us an impact player, a-hole.
DOB: Blah blah blah, I’m a dirty tramp.
Tim: /ghostface mask.
Rest of Team: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
by soup du jour on Feb 19, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i just watched that youtube video the other day… wher Timmy scares the living piss out of Eddie Perez
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a classic, how old is that?
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know but Brian Jordan was on the team so old, or at least i think thats Jordan in the video at the end
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is Brian Jordan.
best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)
by mvandonsel on Feb 20, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I thought DOB and Hudson were friends. Hudson sure seems like a nutjob if he really got heated at a reporter for something like this. Granted, DOB jumped the gun. But he had a source, which he thought was good, and went with it. I feel bad for the guy.
by NEBravesFan33 on Feb 19, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Terry's source
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Feb 19, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too strong of a conclusion over too little evidence
DOB posted in the comment section of his blog that Huddy was upset over both, whom DOB speculated would be cut from the 40 man roster and the Griffey details. Huddy, in my opinion, was just standing up for his team/teammates by taking DOB to task. If that’s the case I could see Huddy’s point of view over DOB’s unwillingness to admit he was wrong.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right… and I suspect this has a lot more to do with comments about guys being cut than about Griffey.
Anyway, in my opinion, O’Brien has gotten a little too casual and comfortable in his role as blogger. It’s fun to read, but he’s a professional who gets paid to do a job and I think he’s putting himself at risk by being so chummy with both readers and some Braves players.
by MikeinAtlanta on Feb 19, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I like the guy, I really do. But he might want to take a step back from the blogging like he is one of us. Guy is the beat writer. Braves info, and see ya later. That’s about it.
by NEBravesFan33 on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad to see some reason here...
as other boards are fuming over this. There were millions of dollars, a Hall of Fame player’s legacy and Griffey’s wife and three kids at stake in this decision….and people think he changed his mind over a newspaper article?! Jeez. He’s so blinded by rage over an AJC story that forgets about the money, and his career and his family to go to Seattle? Puh-leeze.
by tgthree on Feb 19, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reason with speculation
You make good points and I personally am trying to be reasonable by seeing both sides of the argument. Having said that though I think there is some credibility to the AJC article having some affect on his decision. My take is this, Griffey is still very much a hero in Seattle. He is old in baseball terms, but yet still very young with regards to life. He does have a family to feed and he knows he can still make a lot of money after baseball given his status in Seattle. The theory that he was worried about his image and relationship with Seattle and their fans being tarnished due to the fact “they” heard he was going to the Braves from the media instead of hearing it from him is somewhat believable to me. I’ll be the first one to admit this COULDN’T possibly be the ONLY reason he went to Seattle, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say it had something to do with it.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
david o'brien said...
“trust me. he will be a brave”.
no matter how sure, a beat reporter for a team should neeeeeeever say those words until a contract has been signed. if i were griffey and someone was reporting me as signed to a team that i was still debating on signing with, i would be a little perturbed. especially when it involves his home team. bad, bad move, but i think dob will learn from this if he gets to keep his job. needless to say, i disagree that dob had nothing to do with griffey turning away. he probably would have signed with seattle anyway, but dob and the other ajc sports staff sure gave him a push out the door. big mistake. hopefully it doesnt cost us anything.
by ryan c on Feb 19, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hahaha. This is great. Go get em Huddy, DOB is a tool. Too bad he didn’t deck that piece of crap.
Something tells me DOB isn’t going to be employed by the AJC much longer.
by Enron on Feb 20, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great blog...
You know… I’ll be honest… When I first saw this site I was a bit skeptical that there was any real stuff here. But after reading the comments by writer of the article and the ensuing comments, I’m impressed. You guys really tell it like it is. I’m now a member.
Gee, and I did this with very little investigation on my part. Think the article by Dave O’Brien could have had at least some influence on Griffey’s decision making? Maybe. Heck, I’ve been ticked off by a lot less and I’ve made life altering decisions based on it. You know, when you are 50:50 on something, sometimes it doesn’t take much to tip the balance.
I’m shocked at how many coolaid guys there are on O’Brien’s blog. It’s really pathetic defending a guy like Dave O’Brien who can’t own up to his mistakes and he has done the same mistake over and over—at least 4 times, by my last count: Peavy, Furcal, Smoltz, and Griffey. Saying each one of these guys WILL be a Brave is irresponsible. That is just the height of arrogance! And boy, that’s one thing that annoys me to no end. Hey, I admit I’m fairly arrogant myself but this isn’t about me ;-)
I agree with everyone else on this site who has said that O’Brien owes the fans more than just being a fan on a blog. He is a professional! I personally am a doctor and if I started shooting from the hip making diagnoses over the phone and writing Rx’s without any true investigation, I would find myself in trouble. It would be completely irresponsible would it not? My JOB is to help people with their eye problems and to do it right.
What is DOB’s job? Clearly, it is to distribute information to the fans in a thorough, accurate manner. You are a professional Dave who has more information about the Braves than the average Joe, and we all assume that what you say is true. When you give your opinion we have to believe it. Of course Dave’s job isn’t like mine since people aren’t going to get physically hurt from his mistakes but a professional is still a professional and he should act like it.
Sure, tabloid information is valid in this case since it appears to be part of his job. That’s what his blog mostly is about and it appears that’s what most fans seem to want, like Chipper’s smile after a comment somehow means something. But to try to predict the future by saying “Griffey will be a Brave” is wrong. Let us make our own conclusions based on your reporting DOB. Sure, go ahead and be a fan just like us and say, “Could, would, maybe…” But saying “maybe” is a huge departure from WILL BE.
For those of you who say that the blog is buried and isn’t a major player at AJC, you are 100% wrong. Dave O’Brien is paraded around on AJC’s internet sports page like he IS the authority. After every transaction, after every major development, there is a link to O’Brien’s blog, as if what HE SAYS is what the AJC says.
Frankly, I think the guy should be fired. What good is he? Anyone can be replaced you know. As some of you have said, it’s not hard to get the inside scoop on things when you parade around the clubhouse 24/7. But maybe the Atlanta Journal-Constitution likes controversy and they like to be embarrassed. Hey, negative stuff generates website hits right? I’m willing to go out on a limb to say that O’Brien’s latest goof about Griffey has generated more blog comments than all of the sports blogs combined for the last 6 months given that the website apparently went down several times from all the traffic (apparently it was also causing OTHER blogs to be affected as well!)
As for so many of you who have said he is nice, he is not nice. He routinely castigates and makes fun of his readers. I realize that it seems to be the wave of the future in the media, i.e. American Idol, but it doesn’t make it right nor does it make O’Brien a nice guy. Far from it.
Great that so many fans have come out to rip O’Brien because he deserves it. But there are so many who defend him and it’s interesting that it seems that most of them are the fans who have been on his blog the longest. Apparently their lives revolve around DOB so much they can’t stand the thought of their link to the world getting broken. In other words, I say, “Get a life.”
Sorry for the length of the post but I had a lot to say and no one was listening on DOB’s blog. Hey, my frustrations really added up! Hopefully I will have better luck here! ;-)
by proeye on Feb 20, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m impressed. Welcome.
SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES
by bigjoe on Feb 20, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am pleased with your well-written, articulate debut post, and would like to welcome you aboard.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Feb 20, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would give you my “newsletter” post but I already used that this month. Good stuff though.
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, that's just what I was gonna say!
Well done, proeye. I’m a regular on DOB’s blog but have just about given up on it. I have a feeling that DOB has had a little dressing down from AJC, and that we’ll see a little gentler tone from him (for a while anyway). It’s a fine line – he is a unique (I didn’t say "nice") guy who can bring a lot to the table. But as I posted earlier, he’s gotten a little – or a lot – carried away. If he continues to “be” the story rather than just reporting it, he’ll blow a good thing.
by MikeinAtlanta on Feb 20, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can say that again...
I actually recognize your name, if that’s the same one you use on DOB’s blog. Yeah, okay, how many Mikes are there in Atlanta… Anyway… ;-)
I kinda wonder if he really did get a dressing down. It’s hard to say what goes on behind closed doors. But I would assume if the AJC is like any other self-respecting organization (hard to tell nowadays), he got chewed out royally. Note that you won’t often find me making bold statements and predictions. There always has to be an out ;-)
Sure he is unique but I’m really not sure how. If you mean that he likes to post stuff about his personal life—thus making himself part of the story—as if HE is the Braves personal spokesman—then I believe you. But again, as others have said, he is around the Braves on a daily basis. He doesn’t do anything else. Heck, I think I could be the blog master and I would be very unique.. But I’m afraid I would get waaaaay too cocky. LOL
Here is my ideal blog master… Reports news, gets conversation going with provocative writing, keeps it going, interjects new news along the way, and keeps us thoroughly entertained. Personality-wise it is important to be level-headed and respectful of each and every poster—even those who choose to speak out against the blog master (going over the line of course means instant ejection). You know there have to be rules and there have to be constants. Respect on both sides is important. Yes, it’s okay to get a big personal but do not over do it. It’s not the blog show, not the blog master show. You can decide how you feel about DOB.
by proeye on Feb 20, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On O’Brien, he’s created a monster there. He’s unique in that his knowledge of music and movies is really encyclopedic (there is seeminly no CD he doesn’t own, no movie he hasn’t seen), and he uses that to draw people in (most people have lots of opinions on one or both of those topics), and to keep the hits up even when there’s no baseball news.
I’m not saying I like that, just that he’s found a formula that appeals to a lot of people – plus of course those that just want to talk baseball.
I’m not defending or praising him… like you, I’d prefer pretty much baseball-only, and in fact I have a feeling he spends way too much time with his headphones on or alone in theaters. And I definitely think he runs the risk of burning out, because his blog seems to be too big a part of his “real life.”
by MikeinAtlanta on Feb 20, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post!
Welcome!
best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)
by mvandonsel on Feb 20, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Huddy hasn't had ass in a while.
I don’t know if wives migrate to Florida with their husbands.
Oh, Bobby.
by sdp on Feb 20, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I believe Frenchy and Chipper’s wives (and his four boys) have. Any of the others, I’m not sure about. I would say most that work probably don’t, at least not the length of spring training, but who knows?
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by mccannfan on Feb 20, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine, if you will...
Glavine went to the Nats and talked himself up, got a good offer, while stringing us along at the same time. Then, when he’s milked both sides for some money, he signs with us. That’s essentially what Griffey did in trying to get the most money he could from his old team for a farewell tour. Was it sneaky and a little underhanded? Yeah. But who knows how often this stuff happens without it being reported. The guy have actually NEVER been a free agent before.
by FineHamAbounds on Feb 20, 2009 12:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It just seems to me to be a lot of folks misinterpreting what others are saying. If Griffey had signed with the Braves, he’d have just been a guy passing through, and nobody would think of him as a Brave any more than folks recall Reggie Jackson as an Oriole. But the opportunity to play for Bobby Cox on a team close to home that might be decent was attractive, so he seriously considered it, and was probably leaning toward the Braves until the Mariners offered him a deal to essentially be a Mariner for the rest of his life. I don’t think that Griffey was playing the Braves against the M’s, but he did want to give Seattle a last chance to make an offer, and when they came back with a lifetime contract, he couldn’t turn it down. He tells somebody that he’s leaning toward the Braves while he’s still waiting to hear from the M’s, that person tells Terry Moore, and it winds up in the AJC. Did the story send Griffey to Seattle? Hell no, their offer did, but that doesn’t mean that the story didn’t piss him off all the same. Now Huddy’s a bit of a hothead, and he’s probably more pissed off about DOB idly speculating about who’s going to get the boot off the 40-man, and he lets DOB know about it. And, of course, Huddy’s going to side with another baseball vet in a pissing match with a reporter, so he dumps that on DOB as well. I don’t think any of this — including Griffey’s possible contributions to the Braves — really amounts to anything.
by Tokyokie on Feb 20, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
Good post…
It is really hard to say what things led to Griffey leaving but I have some thoughts if anyone cares to read…
- Who did what here? I mean, Griffey contacted the Braves. Was that because he was truly interested in joining the Braves or was he using the Braves as a tool to get his true destination Seattle to anti up? Really odd that the Braves got used a second time after Furcal. Sure, both guys may have truly wanted to join the team, but it is peculiar and I wouldn’t put it past baseball players who have a lot on the line money-wise and career-wise. This off season has been very slow and the economy has really killed player’s salaries (minus the Yanks) so what is to stop a player from doing what he feels is necessary? Gotta drum up interest somehow after being on the list for months and spring training is upon us.
- Did Braves management really want to improve left field with Griffey or were they really just wanting extra gate receipts? Anyone think it is odd that management has apparently abandoned any effort to go for any more free agents at this time despite the fact that Jim Edmonds is available? The two guys are nearly identical in age, stats, power, average, and even how they bat. Sure Griffey has the name so was that the real reason they inquired about the guy? Jim Edmonds is not going to bring in any more people to the park just because he’s Jim Edmonds—except for maybe his mother. ;-) Is it possible that they could get the same production from their in-house guys? Maybe, and that’s apparently what they are going to do in spring training—assess where they are at. I’m assuming that if they can’t identify a guy before the start of the season, they will consider a trade. My prediction: They won’t find one.
- Okay, it is possible Braves management is a bit gun shy right now? How many times has Wren gotten blizted here? I mean talk about sacking the quarterback 30 yards behind the line more than once in the same game! Geez, at least we made up for it with a few touchdowns with Lowe, et. al. The Braves have traditionally acquired their talent through trades so their strategy this off season was a bit unusual. Frankly, it is very difficult to get decent returns from FA’s anyway given that 1-they are old (typically over 30), 2-they are costly (because of years of service which doesn’t mean squat but this is baseball and that’s how it works). Technically speaking, the Braves only made one big FA acquisition this year (Lowe) and it is unusual for a team to acquire more than one in the same off season (Yanks). David Ross was not a big acquisition. Please. He is decent but he is not going to have a big impact like Lowe. Kawakami came from Japan so I’m not sure how to classify his acquisition.
by proeye on Feb 20, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
Re: Kawakami, I would lean toward classifying him as a major acquisition, not because I expect him to come over here and light the world on fire, but because of the business/marketing aspects.
Royhobbs said it best in another thread – he can open doors in Japan that Resop probably welded shut.
"Break's over"
by VegasAces on Feb 20, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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