Everybody on the Luke Scott Train
by KC Ryan on Feb 19, 2009 3:17 PM EST
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I know Scott has been brought up before but his split numbers are pretty good and hey...why not? Against righties he has a lifetime .273 Average, .357 OBP, .517 SLG, and .874 OPS. Those numbers are nothing crazy special but last year against righties in about 350 ab's he had 18 HR's and 54 RBI. If Diaz puts up 12 -15 HR's and 45-50 RBI, then we I think we would be pretty ecstatic over our production in left field. Scott is also pretty solid in the field. There is talk that Baltimore might make him available and I"m sure he wouldn't cost us much in a trade. What say you?
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Luke Scott would require a trade, which means trading a prospect(s) for a marginal stop-gap, much less a platoon player. No.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
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by dragonhawk26 on Feb 19, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
the fact you have to give up prospects to get him… is pretty much the only reason
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I think I'm FOR acquiring Scott
My thinking is as long as we trade from depth then why not? Scott can provide good power and good D in a LF platoon. Obviously it depends on “whom” we would have to part with though.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
He doesn’t need to be platooned except possibly against very tough lefties – Hamels and Santana basically. That’s still 140 games a season and gets us out of the Diaz situation.
He’s not going to cost much anyway.
Agreed
I noticed his split’s over the last two years aren’t that different from one another, but my thought about platooning him was more about the fact we’re already featuring at least three and probably four lefties against lefties already (Kotchman, KJ, McCann and Anderson/Blanco). Given that I personally would rather see Diaz in LF against lefties over Scott, but your point is noted.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
More than you think
The talk at one point of a Luke trade was centered around Locke + mid teir prospects though I wouldn’t mind a Morton/JoJo + BJones/CJohnson for Luke. I wouldn’t trade Locke for Luke …
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by bravesrbaseball on Feb 19, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions
On the train, with reservations
“There is talk that Baltimore might make him available and I”m sure he wouldn’t cost us much in a trade."
I don’t think either statement is true, much less both of them. Scott is currently penciled in as the O’s primary DH, and as a safety net in case Pie flops. I do not think he would come cheap.
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from camdenchat…I’ve tried to push this on my braves friend almost jokingly at this point. you guys know it’d cost at least one pitching prospect right? I’m not saying he’s worth it but that’s what the asking price would be. They are going to give Pie all the at bats he can stomach in LF and having Freel and Wiggington on board Scott is somewhat expendable…although I really haven’t heard much about him going. I think you guys could do a lot worse than Scott.
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If Luke is available for someone like Medlen, I’d do that deal every day of the week.
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Right or Wrong
see the Tejada and Bedard trades. Or why the Cubs/Roberts deal didn’t get done. MacPhail isn’t going to just roll over for someone. Heck, we got something for Razor Ramon. The Felix Pie/Garrett Olson trade was more or less your crap for our crap though.
I’m not sure where Medlen ranks on your list of prospects but I would think for just one guy it would take a decent prospect…like that rourbrough (sp) kid. but like I said, I’m not familiar with the Braves farm system. I’m jsut saying that if you would be willing to part with him for Scott then MacPhail would probably want another guy too.
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LOL at Rohrbough for LUKE SCOTT. Seriously? Thats like us demanding I dunno…Matusz for Francoeur.
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Haha
More like Weiters for Francoeur. I can see us parting with a Medlen type or maybe even a Hicks plus AAAA type combo. No idea what Baltimore would require though.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
That's the point!
I’m not saying it’s right bigjoe…I’m just saying MacPhail has asked for a lot for everything.
I don’t think Scott is worth it either but hey you were goign to sign 136 year old griffey so whatever.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
Methinks that you don’t really know how highly Rohrbaugh is rated. He is a top ten player in the Braves system and the Braves system is one of the best in baseball. Luke Scott is not worth a top ten Braves prospect. Maybe someone in the 15-20 range.
Yeah
I admit that much. I’m not that familiar with the pitching prospects. I guess my point was that the asking price was going to be very high. Probably high enough that you guys wouldn’t want to do it. I probably didn’t convey that clearly enough. I didn’t mean that Scott is WORTH Rohrbaugh but merely that that is probably where asking would start.
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That makes more sense
I agree MacPhail and Co. would almost certainly start the conversation with “high” expectations, but ultimately for a deal to get done more reasonable expectations would have to be reached.
P.S. would you mind removing that dagger you just lodged into my back (griffey)?
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
ha!
sorry about that.
I’ve seen opinions on Medlen all over the board. What’s the consensus on him here?
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ill give u my take… he is just too short to remain a starter.. i dont think he can withstand the success. However he could be a very good reliever… Not sure if he is closer material but his has good stuff and would easily be a very good set up man, if he continues to progress.
Despite my opinion, he has had very good sucess starting (last year) and maybe it is in his future, there’s definately guys with his frame who haev been very successful.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I think you’re right on him as a reliever. The starting thing was to give him something different and put some innings on his arm. We kind of forget he hasn’t been pitching that long, staring out his college career as a shortstop.
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Medlen
I’m higher on Medlen than most. I do think he’ll make a d*mn fine major league starter, although he may do better coming out of the pen, especially at first.
Medlen could easily be Justin Duchscherer, II. He’s passed AA with flying colors, posting terrific K/9 and K/BB ratios.
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i like that comparison… does it translate to their stuff at all… im not familar with Medlan’s stuff
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
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Although I’ve never seen Medlen pitch live, reports are that he has a nice CB and good movement on his pitches.
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I can see the Orioles askin for Medlen and Eric Cordier or Osuna for Scott. Reasonable price. I would do the deal because he is still under contract prolly until Gorkys or Heyward is ready to take over in the OF. I would hate to give up Medlen cause i view him as a future set up man but to get Scott i would do it. The guy can flat out hit.
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how is Brandon Jones too much? What is Brandon Jones worth in a trade? I say not all that high at all in my opinion. And in a few years i dont think we would even need Jones since we have Schafer, Gorkys, and Heyward all in our minors and then other Outfielders that could improve and take notice by then. So you have to look at it this way: Would you rather have Luke Scott now or Brandon Jones now(remember he hasn’t done crap in the majors other than a september callup where he got some at bats and started some). If the Braves are serious about contending(which they are thats why they made the moves that they made its for this year and the future) then we would definately trade Brandon Jones and then somethin else for Scott.
braves#1
I don’t think Jones is too much for Scott, but I also don’t see why the O’s would even want Jones. If they’re looking to free up a logjam in the outfield, why add Jones? Plus, they could probably get the same out of Nolan Reimold that they could out of Jones.
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Your probably right. I just thought that since Brandon Jones is young has good potential has potential to be an everyday OF possibly that they would want him. I think that Jones is better than Pie(which thats not sayin a whole lot) and that if Pie didn’t do anything at all then they could try Jones in LF to see what happens.
braves#1
WHAT???
Are you talkin to me? Dude i been a member of this site for years even before they redid the site to what it looks like now. And YOU just registered THIS month and your gonna tell ME how things are done? You might want to keep your mouth shut when talkin to me ok and not act like a smartass.
For one thing at the time his comment was the last comment on here so i just typed a comment. So mind your own business on here.
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by mattdiaz4life on Feb 20, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
well
i will remember this when somebody acts like a smartass to you and you get mad at them.
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Sweet, go ahead and save the .jpg, I look forward to seeing it in the future
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by mattdiaz4life on Feb 20, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just easier on everyone if people use the reply button…no reason to crucify the guy
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 20, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I usually use the reply button though. Only reason i didn’t at the time is because cbwilk comment was the last comment at the time. 95% of the time i use the reply button. And acie was sitten there actin like i never even knew what the reply button meant thats what pissed me off big time. He was bein a smartass plain and simple. No need for that on here.
braves#1
i contend that there is definately a need for smartasses on this site… thats where the humor is from… everyone deep down ( or not so deep down) is a smartass/jackass
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I see what your sayin and in a jokin manner i agree. But there is a difference between bein a smartass in a fun jokin manner with veteran posters on here and with new people bein a smartass prick manner. You can be a smartass in a jokin manner and i would be fine with it. But this dude was bein a smartass prick to me and was very serious about it. He wasn’t tryin to be funny or nothin like that he was bein a smartass prick asshole or any other word you want to say. And that is what just absolutely pissed me off.
braves#1
My favorite thing about Luke Scott
Ed Wade actually thought Michael Bourn was better than him. Good times.
we cant use Ed Wade’s advice for anytinig.. he has proven that.. anyone who think Michael Bourn is good for anythign (outside a roto league) is clearly deficient mentally… Ed Wade is the reason teh AStros have two of the best hitters in baseball and decent pitching and still suck
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Don't dog Ed Wade!
I mean, Tejada for Scott, Albers, Patton, Sarfate…c’mon…what’s not to like about the giving Ed Wade?
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
Ryan Spilborghs?
Since the Rockies lost Francis, what about dealing Reyes (or another starter we won’t keep) for Ryan Spillborghs? Decent hitter, splits are OK… I mean, he can’t be worse than BJones.
I love Spilborghs, but he will likely have a big role in COL this year. They do have outfield depth, however…get it done FW
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by mattdiaz4life on Feb 20, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Lots of teams with Outfield depth
It seems that there are a lot of teams with outfield depth. Wren ought to be able to pull in someone. Swisher could be a stud and I can’t see him being happy riding the Yankee pine at the prime of his career. Baltimore has depth, but it’s kind of a shaky depth. Can Pie, Reimold, or Salazar hit big league pitching?. Washington has ridiculous outfield depth – Other than Dukes and Millidge anyone could be had. Tampa has a bit of a log jam. A couple of guys that will be on their bench could be starting. This is just off the top of my head – I betting there are other teams as well.
I’m thinking we could pick someone up after spring training and it wouldn’t cost us that much in prospects. Not like we necessarily have to give up what we consider to be future stars. One AAA/AAAA prospect is as good as if not better than an A ball pitcher in most team’s minds—especially those who need immediate help.
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I think you go after Delmon Young. He is 23, has or will add power and is a ballplayer. The Twins have four outfielders so they should be parting with one of them. I don’t think two of Atlanta’s many pitching prospects would be too high a price.
two years of sub-.750 OPS and a BB% worse that FYF…no thanks
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 21, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Garret Anderson makes me long for Luke Scott. Or Delmon Young.
I hope to god he fails his physical.
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Delmon Young…now you’re really grasping
by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 24, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
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