2009 Draft
The Braves are in a unique and uncharted position this upcoming draft: picking 7th.
This years draft profile some very good college players: Stephen Strasburg, Alex White, Grant Green, Dustin Ackley, Kyle Gibson, and also Aaron Crow (who did not sign with the Nats).
Also, there is Georgia HS centerfielder Donovan Tate (great athlete, commited to play football and baseball at UNC) and also projectable high school pichers Tyler Matzek, Matt Purke as well as a 5 tool SS in Mychael Givens...
Question is: What do you see Roy Clark doing? Might have to go over slot to get a really good college player, but they profile as really really players. Or will they draft a high school player for slot money.
Personally, I do not see us signing a guy for $2 -4 million. I wouldnt be surprised to see us take ANOTHER projectable high school lefty.
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We need middle infield depth. Badly.
by coldriver10 on Feb 19, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
word
you stole the text right out my fingers
by bravesguy311 on Feb 19, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then
Mychael Givens COME ON DOWN.
If Grant Green falls, then we take him (the most Major League ready)…but i have a feeling it’s Givens for us.
I mean, if Strasburg falls…oh, that #$#@ ain’t happening…
Purke would work…but we need middle infielders and the #2 in the draft is Givens.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Feb 19, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
need
I am not sure HOW GOOD Givens is…Idk that he will be best availible at that point. I wouldnt want to draf t on need. I have only seen video on a few of these guys.
I cant imagine Green or Strasburg falling
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im starting to talk myself out of Strasburg… he looks like a huge injury risk… (i believe i saw that he was compared to Mark Prior)… if it’s me im taking the best available player that looks like a lock to be a above avg major leaguer… I dont know enough about the class to say who that is right now tho.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re
I didn’t think that Heyward would fall that far in 07 or Smoak in 08 there are always suprises in the draft.
by Jay212033 on Feb 19, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
even if he falls i am saying i may not want Strasburg… his mechanics look horrible.. (VICTORW correct me if Im wrong)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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I would still take him if he fell to us. Mechanics can be refined but having said that he’s still not my first choice, here’s my top 10 in this paricular order.
Grant Green, SS
Stephen Strasburg, RHP
Alex White, RHP
Aaron Crow, RHP
Matt Purke, LHP
Tyler Matzek, LHP
Shelby Miller, RHP
Kyle Gibson, RHP
Mychal Givens, SS/RHP
Donovan Tate, OF
by Jay212033 on Feb 19, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
strasburg's
mechanics are fine. its a moot point, we aint spending 8 million on him
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no his mechanics are not fine
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2008/11/18/665018/quick-note-stephen-strasbu
you can take that as an opinion, but its really not up for debate… its obvious the things he is doing are things that are generally considered really really bad for a shoulder/elbow
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kyle boddy?
I have to say I dont put much stock in his opinion because he compares him to priors “poor” mechanics..prior had some of the best mechanics of all time..which is why people always say perfect mechanics dont mean a perfectly healthy pitcher and use him as an example.
I havent read a single report from credible source that worries about his mechanics
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if u use the criteria that this site(not just htis author) uses.. which are regarded as pretty sound.. .how can u say he has good mechanics… he has a very violent finish and his shoulder is abducted which is not good
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't matter
He’s going to go number 1 which is not where we are picking.
by acie4mvp on Feb 19, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you here. Dude might not go #1, but he almost certainly will not be around at #7 if he stays healthy until June.
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im not arguing that… but if we are gonna talk about things that arent happending for 5 months, am im wrong to discuss the top prospect in the draft… i was looking for some opinions on Strasburg, as to whether he might fall fromt he nbr 1 spot or not (i basically said i might not want him at 7 if he falls, becuase i think his mechanics are horrible, and often whne u change his mechiancs the stuff is no longer as good)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I would put money on Strasburg NOT going #1. Maybe not much money, but still…
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 20, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya Im not arguing he has great results and a good arm… im just mentioning that there are concerns about his mechanics and i share those concerns.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think its worth bringing up!
i just dont agree with you lol
can you imagine the outcry of the nationals not taking him 1.1??
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If they don’t, there will likely be a very good reason not to.
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 20, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its fine that u dont agree with me i respect that,
to your pt of outcry
remember the whole vince young/reggie bush deal with the texans, they took mario williams… who is the best player of those three right now, Mario… personally outcry is not a reason to make a decision, IMHO… but i understand what you’re saying, i just think the Nats should worry about singing the guy they draft and drafting the best player for them, if thats Strasburg good for them and i hope im wrong.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well i agree
they should take and sign the best player..BUT strasburg is the better player between he and Green right now. Kevin Goldstein said he would be a top 3 prospect right behind Weiters and Price.
I would bet the Nats are hoping Strasburg has some arm issues this year so they havea reason not to take him and spend a ton of cash
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Usually when you have stuff like Strasburg, pitching coaches won’t mess with your mechanics as long as you’re getting results. See Felix Hernandez.
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 20, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would a HS player cost less than a college player? If anything, they have more leverage because they can choose to go to college. I’m not following your logic.
The Braves are going to take the player they think is the best available at their spot. It’s not going to matter whether he’s a college player or a HS player or what position he plays.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Best available, in my mind too. I’m not sure how signability will factor in – thoughts?
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If signability is a concern, then the kid, or his advisers, are dumb. Last year’s 7th pick signed for around 2 mil, and 6 and 8 were within a half a mil of that. You pretty much know what you’re gonna get at the top of the draft, and it’s a lot of money. I also don’t see the Braves as a team that shys away from unsignable guys, they’ve had a pretty good history of getting them to sign in the past.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
signability
is ALWAYS a factor…someone always drops because of it. it will be interesting to see what happens with the economy and if agents wisely temper expectations.
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
high school v. college
I said that because Stransburg, Green, and White will all probably want ML contracts and I think Boras represents several of them.
The bottom line is, do the braves sign a guy like Crow for 4 million? Assuming of couse he is the best left on the board.
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, you’ve actually made me retract my signability statement, since the Braves would never draft a guy that high who held out last year like Crow did.
I will stick by the other stuff, the Braves will take the best player, and do what they need to to sign him. If that means going over slot, or even a ML deal, then I still think they’ll do it.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A major league deal? Really?
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
you really think the braves will spend whatever amount they need to on the best player that gets to them?? based on what?
they could have done that last year and drafted tim melville is that was their mindset.
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Braves valued DeVall higher than they did Melville…I guess you aren’t taking in the Braves personal preferences when they draft a player…They probably valued DeVall better at his price than Melville at his price tag..
by smscardinals1 on Feb 19, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that wasn’t directed at you…I just think the Braves valued DeVall more with a more complete repetoire
by smscardinals1 on Feb 19, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right on. Who knows how they felt about Melville, maybe he wasn’t even a guy they were considering. And even the Royals, who picked him, skipped him a few times.
I’m also basing this stance on their past history. I’m pretty sure Francoeur was signed for more than his slot would have indicated and I know they always made a point of spending a bit more on draft and follow guys like Tommy Hanson. I think given the chance at a top level talent in the upper part of the first round, they’ll do what they need to to get the guy they want. Like I said a few posts up, they’ll pick the guy they think is the best, no who BA or BP or whoever does.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
Well, I would like to think that we would..but also realize the Pirates said after drafting Daniel Moskos that they liked him and he was the best player for them. We all know he wasnt the best player available.
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but fortunately, we’re not the Pirates. They have a long history of drafting poorly, while the Braves have a pretty decent record.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
missed the point...
I am saying anyone could say “well we thought so and so was better, thats why we took him”
That dosent mean so and so was actually better. OF COURSE they are gonna say they took the best guy.
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you missed my point. Yes, anyone could say that, but some teams pick their guy better than other, the Braves being one of the better.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well..
Aside from McCann, we was the last time we developed a stud?? Adam Wainright? And we traded him pretty early on.
We have a great reputation for developing our own players and it is deserved. But, the high impact talent, all star level guys have really been lacking (especially SP).
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, we haven’t brought out an ace pitcher since Wainwright and we traded the guy who may most likely be the next #1 from our system (Feliz),. Jermaine Dye was the last one before that, and again, he didn’t reach his talent with us.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WORST TRADE EVER
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 21, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not really
at least drew had a really good season
by jsmall404 on Feb 21, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many teams picking as low as the Braves have over the last 15 years have produced a ton of studs? We’ve produced a bunch of pretty good Major Leaguers: Andruw Jones, Mark DeRosa, Jason Marquis, Jermaine Dye, Tony Graffanino, Wes Helms, Adam Wainwright, Adam LaRoche, Wilson Betemit, Kevin Millwood, Odalis Perez, Joey Devine, Kyle Davies, and a few guys who could become solid in Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Matt Harrison.
And still on the team are guys like Kelly Johnson, Yunel Escobar, and Brian McCann, the star of the team (after Chipper) who was a second round pick. We don’t have the elite talent because until 07 we were always picking at the end of the first round, sometimes not until the second round.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 20, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also an excellent point. the last time we drafted this high we got, who Chipper? Or maybe Mike Kelly, can’t remember.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kelly is the correct answer. The only other guy we drafted in the top 15 in the past 18 years is some outfielder…Howard or something?
SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES
by bigjoe on Feb 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but he is still pending further review.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm...
the kid is as close to a lock for MLB starter outside of Weiters in the minor leagues.
he’s gonna be nasty.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Feb 22, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His name’s actually Heyward. Just to clear things up
by acie4mvp on Feb 21, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
R U sure?
I’m pretty confident his name is Jayson Howard. You know, like Ryan Howard.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 21, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This guy’s on a roll.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 21, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ohhhh
sorry that’s right. I must’ve gotten the y’s confused. You’re right, I’m wrong to correct you when I’m so misinformed.
by acie4mvp on Feb 21, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a joke
Look up some older threads, hell any threads, and you’ll see there are several members who just can’t quite get the names right. You’ll find everything from Pharr (Parr) to Shaffer (Schafer). Relax, I’m not pickin’ on you … yet.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 21, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually also kidding. But thank you for not picking on me
by acie4mvp on Feb 22, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We really need someone who can take over at third soon or even a good shortstop and move Escobar to third. We’ll probably draft another Francoeur though.
by atlantasports...LOL! on Feb 19, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ummmm...
isn’t Hicks our future @ 3B?
i don’t like the fact that he hit .234 at A ball.
but he can grow.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Feb 19, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his avg shouldnt be that big of a concern.. obviously it would be nice to see it higher, but if he contineus to post a 350 OBP and an OPS around 850 ( i know he was below that this pst year)… he will play at 3B… IMHO
obviously he needs to control the Ks and it would be nice if he could hit for contact a little better, but its not necessarily a need.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also The Beach might have had something to do with his low avg. Maybe not as much as his incredible strike out rates, but still he has some room to grow but I doubt he will ever hit much higher than 250 or so, but with some power.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks
Is a plus defender at SS with good range and a good arm..he has more value there hitting 20 HR (or even at 2B) than at 3B
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s gonna be to big to stay at SS. He’s already a big guy, and he’s adding muscle. He won’t be agile enough for SS.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh I totally agree with you there, but he is more valuable at 3B than Yunel would be there, who is also a +defender, has established himself in the majors and we have under control for another, what? 4 years?
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Middle INF
I agree we need to depth, but at 7 you cant drat based on need. Mychael Givens, from what I read, could be really solid though..I think Tim Beckham lite? Obviouslt it is still early
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if we draft Grant Green, I will jizz in my pants
by SayHeyWerd on Feb 19, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hehe
post of the day…
we’ll have a jizzin’ celebration…
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Feb 20, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I JIZZ IN MY PANTS
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i just ate a grape and i JIZZ IN MY PANTS
by SayHeyWerd on Feb 20, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in case no one knows what is going on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
promise its not a rick roll
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i just recently saw this and lost it completely. Awesome
Although you guys should check out “Bro Rape” if you haven’t. Classic.
Bro Rape
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good one
This one doesn’t really fit the bill but being a bit of a techie I found it funny as hell.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tweetmeme/sony-releases-new-stupid-piece-of-shit-that-doesn
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 20, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that was quite funny as well. touche sir
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bro rape was one of the funniest videos ever.. saw it like a yr or two ago…. so funny
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao that bro rape video was so funny
by SayHeyWerd on Feb 22, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i got my flippy floppies…. .i just bought the cd and cant stop playing it
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 22, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You at kinko’s straight flippin’ copies, lmao, what’s funny is Andy could probably legitimately rap
by MatM on Feb 23, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More importantly, who’s seen my video, “White Girl Rapper”, which is the first related video on “Awkward Rap”?
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 23, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have… and it is very funny the ending is hilarious …. how’s that for a cliffhanger/ anticipations builder?
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 25, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice. Spread the word.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 26, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hoping for a college pitcher – Volz, Minor, Gibson, etc. Overall though, we just need to take the best player available, regardless of cost or position.
by 17843 on Feb 19, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Can’t stand teams who draft for need early as opposed to taking the best available player. In my mind needs are better addressed by drafting quantity in later rounds.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the one year we drafted from need and not the idea of best player, we got Joey Devine. Devine isn’t horrible now and we did get some value out of him, but we didn’t get much from him in terms of immediate major league value, which is why we drafted him.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Best Player Available..
Spending money on the draft is crucial…At 7, I’m pretty sure Stephen Strasburg, Alex White, Grant Green, and Dustin Ackley will all be gone…Personally I’d be stoked if Matt Purke fell to us…His stuff is ace potential and his velocity comes easy…His mechanics are clean..I definately feel he is the way to go…Obviously depending on the high school and college season, players will fall and gain helium according to their season..
by smscardinals1 on Feb 19, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can you differentiate
between purke and matzek? I havent seen video on either of them but read they are pretty similar.
If I got odds on picking who the Braves take right now..If I got good odds I would just throw Kyle Gibson or Maztek out there.
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I read, Purke’s secondary pitches are a little bit better I think..He might be a little more projectable too? Didn’t Gibson close in winter ball this last year? I can’t remember
by smscardinals1 on Feb 19, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
winter ball?
Gibson isnt a closer by any means..I cant speak on their off spead stuff but both are about the same size…Matzek has been mechanics.
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets start talking about who we can draft once they play their 2009 season.
SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES
by bigjoe on Feb 19, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree. That was my first thought, but I figured I’d entertain the discussion a little. College baseball starts tomorrow!
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HOLLA
I will be skipping out of work early to see the Heels play VMI in 40-degree weather
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think my friend is going down there Saturday. I’m gonna go down for a few Saturdays myself at some point. I’ll be over in Winston-Salem watching ODU in a tournament all weekend. Stop on over.
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t be able to make it to Winston this weekend, but I’ll be at a lot of UNC’s games this season, especially since they’re back in the Bosh this year.
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, go suck one
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how about
you dont post on a thread you dont care about and let the people who do care discuss things?
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting tired of your garbage "big joe"
I’m a long time reader and it seems like the last three months or so everytime I log on I have to wade through all the Big Joe stupid comments and cursing to read what people have to say.
Your comment here is classic Big Joe…the draft is 4 months away and most of the high schoolers are in the middle of their season. I want to read this post and many others do too. Don’t comment anymore please.
Most of the good commenters have dropped off because there are way too many posts about the same junk…17483, messenger, yondaime, etc YOU ARE KILLING IT FOR US!
by themurph on Feb 19, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
I understand your point about threads getting hi-jacked, sometimes it is frustrating, but you completely lost me here:
Most of the good commenters have dropped off because there are way too many posts about the same junk…17483, messenger, yondaime, etc YOU ARE KILLING IT FOR US!
First, I surprised that you openly called out some of the more knowledgeable commenter’s on the site. I would love to hear your explanation of how they’re “KILLING IT FOR US!”? I would also theorize that if your comment is true and they have left due to “too man posts about the same junk” the reason isn’t due to those you’ve called out. There has been a wave of new sign-ups lately and when that happens it takes time for those new users to “learn the ropes” so to speak. Though I will agree it has been uncomfortably similar to DOB’s blog commenter’s lately, give it time – it’ll all work out.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t he commending those commenters? i.e. they were the “good commenters (that) have dropped off”?
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah-ha
Now that you say that I could have mis-read it. If so then I take back my “calling him out” on it.
"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST
by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but it wasn't clear
I read it just as you did.
SubParr
by nick9314 on Feb 19, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i still need clarification here? Did I just get blasted or commended, because i definitely haven’t been posting lately. Just sayin
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure
he was saying that u were a good poster then stopped
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Swagga like BJones"
One more thing is that Brandon Jones is about the most timid and mild pro athlete around. That is why he didn’t do well in Richmond…he was pouting. He has no SWAGGA…
by themurph on Feb 19, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Now you’re just being ridiculous.
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by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Purke/Matzek/Gibson/Givens
A good deal of youtube video on the 3 of them that I spent a little while watching.
Gibson has gorgeous mechanics..its fun just watching him throw. I am a little surprised he only throws 90 but from what I read there is alot of projection left.
Purke and Matzek LOOK really similar (same height and weight about). Matzek has better mechanics and is a little more fluid.. couldnt tell their off speed stuff though.
Saw video on Givens..I feel safe to say he wont go in the top half of the first round unless he shows alot of improvement this year. He is really raw at the plate and dosent have a very fluid swing…not that that is not fixable, but I am sure there will be better at 7
by jsmall404 on Feb 19, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You take the best player available.
In the first couple of rounds, trying to “upgrade depth” is how teams like the Pirates and Orioles got where they are today.
by FineHamAbounds on Feb 20, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i think we are past that...
we all want to take BPA..what if that BPA costs 5 million though? The question is, is that the type of pick the Braves will make? We really have no history to go on because we haven’t ever had to deal with drafting this high.
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Braves do have a precedent of taking the player they want though…case in point is Jeff Francoeur. We payed him a lot of money to not go to Clemson and chase football. I think if there is a player our scouting director likes and he’s there, we’ll take him.
by soup du jour on Feb 20, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thing about Frenchy though is he was supposedly a top 10 draft talent, and even said before the draft that he would only sign with the Braves and even then he would probably go play DB at Clemson. So I don’t think that was us reaching at all. He was supposed to be a steal. We have actually gotten pretty lucky in getting people to fall to us this decade with him and Jason Heyward. Though if Frenchy doesn’t ever turn it around just forget that getting lucky thing.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another name is Matt Davidson
Big slugging 3B…he projects as a top 15 pick AND would fill a future need.
There is Aflac All American video on him on youtube.
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
u seem to be well versed in the draft class do u know anythign about Bobby Borching (sp?) plays 3B… where do u think he will go… he’s went to my HS and am just interested to see where he goes
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Feb 20, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I covered last years draft at MVN.com
but most of the 2009 guys I just hear about through BA and BP and Keith Law and then try to find video on them so I can have my own opinion.
Bobby Borching I havent heard of but that dosent mean he is not good.
I am heading off to see the GA Tech opener…Derek Deitrich (SS) look to be a top 10 pick in 2010.
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Deck McGuire will be available in 2010. He’s a pretty darn good pitcher.
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by cbwilk on Feb 20, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I caught some of the UNC opener today (cut out of work early) – we were leading VMI 4-0 after three. I saw something I’ve never seen before: Garrett Gore (RF) broke his aluminum bat…and managed to get a triple out of it. Unreal.
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 21, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
was it a Worth bat?
they crack alot more than you would think…i have seen one break in half once..crazy looking isnt it?
by jsmall404 on Feb 21, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No idea what kind of bat it was.
I'll handle u in spring training - phil413
by mattdiaz4life on Feb 21, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Borchering*
If he can stick at 3B he could go in the first round..lots of power and is a switch hitter. Baseball America has him ranked at the 20th best prospect as of right now going into the draft.
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah..
heard about him. but there are some SERIOUS signability issues with him. plus, he’s a Boras client.
i would LOVE Davidson. helps us keep Hicks at SS (or move him to 2B…why the hell not?).
donovan tate, it’s a fair bet, will NOT be the pick. he’s supposed to enroll in Chapel Hill (my alma mater and i have an acquaintance on the baseball team who says he’s playing both) in June.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Feb 22, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People don’t turn down millions and millions, unless they’re stupid. I’m going to assume, until I’m proven wrong, that this Tate kid isn’t stupid.
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by cbwilk on Feb 23, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll be taking whom ever we deem is the best available...
Regardless of position.
The only time Roy Clark and the Braves have moved away from that to draft a positional need in my memory was when we drafted Joey Devine. Which was rather unfortunate since any other year, we’d have taken Colby Rasmus in that spot. But I think we learned our lesson there. If we had Rasmus, JF-K might be out of a job right now (one can only wish).
Tommy Hanson 4 ROY
by timmy3 on Feb 20, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we should trade for Gordan Beckham. He went to my high school
by acie4mvp on Feb 20, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I roomed with Bobby Parnell (of the mets) one year in college. We should totally trade for him. Even though he is probably going to be a mediocre middle reliever.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um really?
what year? I went to CSU and we was my suitemate and I knew almost the whole baseball team and a “Matt Foreman” dosent ring a bell. I
by jsmall404 on Feb 20, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say I was a baseball player there, Jonathan Small, son of Hank Small I take it? He was in my suite/room his sophomore year I guess? I dunno, I was a Sr and he ended up moving off campus before the end of the year. I can’t remember who he moved in with. Maybe Haar and Kolhagen? can’t really remember.
by yondaime4 on Feb 20, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cool
yeah he was my suitemate freshman year and i was david perkins roomate…he moved off campus after freshman year like everyone else lol
I read today Bobby might make the team out of spring training.
by jsmall404 on Feb 21, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i can’t believe the strides the kid has made since college. I mean I watched him in about half the home games and he always had a live arm a lot of room for projection, but obviously the stats weren’t great. But I guess some refinement and throwing in a power sinker have really helped him out.
I hope Swindle sticks with the Phillies (is that right?) this year. I always root for a guy that throws 80-nothing and still can compete.
by yondaime4 on Feb 21, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Brewers signed RJ
I think to a major league deal..not sure, I know he is in their camp
by jsmall404 on Feb 21, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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