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Wow!

I knew it was risky to go out tonight and get some dinner with friends, but this. I had no idea... well, yes, in the back of my mind this was a distinct possibility. I just never thought it would actually happen. I know there will be some who think we dodged a bullet by not landing Griffey, but of the options left, he seemed like a great fit.

His signing with Seattle makes no sense. Is he closer to his family? No, not by a long shot. With the Braves, esepecially in spring training, he could live at home and drive 20 miles to Disney. Is he going to a team with a better chance to win? No, the Mariners are not a serious baseball team, they have no shot at getting anywhere near the playoffs in the AL West.

Griffey's decision relegates his 2009 season to a farewell homecoming tour - the baseball equivalent of the Vegas casino "meet the champ ex-boxing star greeter." The Mariners have no need for an aging slugger in their present state -- they're half a dozen moves from being competitive. Griffey has relegated himself to pure sideshow status on a completely irrelevant team thousands of miles from home -- absolutely stupid!

Also to blame seems to be the AJC and beat writer David O'Brien. The excuse game has begun in earest on his blog and the redirected anger toward Mark Bowman and others is something to truely laugh at, but this is a guy who has been saying for several days now that Griffey's mind was made up, when there was no deal done and Griffey's mind was nowhere near made up -- that's just bad journalism, or bad tea leaves. At least have the guts to be "Alex-Rodriguez-level-sorry."

This is the continuing saga of our off-season, and it's getting old. I'm ready to return to the days of John Schuerholz and surprise mega-deals and surprise moves.

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I have to admit, I think it’s my fault. I put his cards in my Spring Training stack yesterday, and jinxed the whole deal. Sorry everyone. Or you’re welcome. Depending on your point of view.

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by cbwilk on Feb 18, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I was going to, but I left them in my FA pile just because I had little faith that we would actually him.

SubParr

by nick9314 on Feb 19, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have hard time believing that a simple inaccurate report from a local beat writer really persuaded him that much. If he really got that butt-hurt over something that little, that he’s willing to choose something over spending time with his family, then he can take his drama somewhere else.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by beeniez on Feb 18, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is why he signed with Seattle, ultimately, not because of media schmuck

tipping his hand:

http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?mid=200706222043893&vid=7758&gid=2007/06/22/cinmlb-seamlb-1&v=2&id=579571&w=2007/open/tp/archive06/062207_cinsea_griffey_ceremony_tp_350.wmv

Even if he were to have A. come to Atlanta and been mildly successful, and B. gotten to the play-offs, he would never, ever receive the kind of reception which is in store for him (and which will last at least half a season if not more). And that’s not a knock on Braves fans by any means; he simply does not mean as much to Atlanta, or any city for that matter, as he does to Seattle.

The only reason he wavered was because of his family. Hate to break it to you guys, but you’re really not all that much closer to the play-offs then we are.

That being said, I hope things turn out for the better for everyone in Atlantaland this season.

by Omerta on Feb 18, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually we are...

And it is so obvious it isn’t even worth debating.

by MatM on Feb 19, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I see two teams in your division alone that are clearly superior.

But I didn’t come here to flame, so from here I defer to your judgement…

Good luck this year.

by Omerta on Feb 19, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hate to break it to you guys, but you’re really not all that much closer to the play-offs then we are.

Huh?

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 19, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle

(Full disclosure: Seattle Mariner fan from Seattle)

The Mariners have no need for an aging slugger in their present state — they’re half a dozen moves from being competitive. Griffey has relegated himself to pure sideshow status on a completely irrelevant team thousands of miles from home — absolutely stupid!

I find it hard to see why a team that won 72 games is calling a team that won 61 games Irrelevant. Both teams finished in fourth place in their division and both teams were hopelessly out of the playoffs. So why, other than the distance to family, is this move considered a sideshow and him signing for the Braves “A good move”?
I know it’s cheesy and all, but you really have to be here to understand it. Seattle LOVES this guy. Listening to Sports Radio tonight after the deal they had people calling in overjoyed, almost crying. It brought back memories of, really, the first good year in sports this city had seen since The Sonics (A Team no longer existing) won the title in ‘79. While this move may not mean wins, it will sure as hell mean a sell out for at least the first month. We probably would have only sold out opening night without him.
According to recent preseason predictions The Mariners aren’t going to do much, but The Braves won’t either. In essence neither team is going to do much this year, by expectations, calling one move a sideshow and another not, is wrong to me.

by GoCougs on Feb 18, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Um…could it be because the Braves added some pitching and got better this offseason, while the Mariners did nothing?

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by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely. The Braves added three starting pitchers and committed some serious cash. Not to mention that we had a half dozen key injuries last year.

by gondeee on Feb 19, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners

Pitching was not the problem for Seattle last year (Except for Silva *Shiver*). Their pitching is solid: Hernandez, Bedard, and the new kid Morrow. Seattle added a new left fielder, a new center fielder, A DH (Junior), and a New catcher. The m’s have a new GM (Thank god) and a young Manager. They may not be big moves, but you can’t say they won’t improve the team (Can’t get much worse).

by GoCougs on Feb 19, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, good luck with that.

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by cbwilk on Feb 19, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the fact is you have improved your team.. however our additions grealty surpass your additions… our team was better (or rather since both sucked, you sucked more) last year… and our system is leaps and bounds ahead of yours… .i wont lie you have a good base King Felix and Morrow are very good and Clement could be good as well, but you dont have any impact bats really and there’s little help on the way (although i must say i am not well versed in the Mariners system, i know they have some talent but thats not the point so if your still here dont respond by listing prospects to me, please)… so to say that we are even close is misguided… SEA needs years of good drafting and some timely trades to be relevant again (most likely well after Ichiro retires, unfortunately)

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK WALL OF TEXT…… DAMN ME

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

srsly wtf

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Their new GM brings lots of promise to the organization. Their top four prospects (Halman, Aumont, Saunders, Triunfel) are a fairly good base, and since Zduriencik comes from a scouting background (just look at what he did with Milwaukee), they should be contending within the next five years after their farm system gets reloaded.

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how do u figure 5 years.. .it takes that long to reload a system ( or at the least 3 years) IMHO

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 19, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, their young base already in the majors, plus their top prospects, plus a college stud or two, plus trades/free-agent signings…it could happen.

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re counting on Bedard then you’re only fooling yourself.

Your GM is a great start (I think), but if you believe that Seattle is just as close to the postseason than Atlanta then I don’t know what to say. We both entered the offseason with probably the same amount of holes, but walked away with a much improved ball club. You guys made good steps for the future, but merely marginal improvements for next year.

by soup du jour on Feb 19, 2009 6:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

On counting on Bedard. They also have a BIG question mark in Morrow. I love the kid and from what I see he’s likely to have a helluva future, but they seriously shouldn’t expect anything more than #5 starter stuff out of him in 2009. He has serious fly-ball tendencies, which the ball-park in Seattle can suppress to a point, and his walk ratios over the last few years all point to a steep learning curve.

"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST

by scstrato on Feb 19, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually...

The Braves are looking to do pretty decently this year. Way better than the Mariners. A power hitting left fielder was about the only thing left on Mr. Wren’s to do list. And why are you on a Braves blog? Go celebrate your memories with some of your own fans. Because this love is going to last a week until he pulls his hammy running out a ground ball and can’t come back until September

by acie4mvp on Feb 19, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because this love is going to last a week until he pulls his hammy running out a ground ball and can’t come back until September

If they’re lucky. Otherwise he will be playing. Thank God he can DH. It’s his only hope.

by mburris1 on Feb 19, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I go to U.S.S. Mariner all the time, but admittedly it’s for analysis, not conversations with Seattle fans

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 19, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whether the Braves have a better record than the Mariners

Isn’t really the question because the NL East is a much, much tougher division. The Mariners are likely going to be around as competitive with the AL West as we will be with the East. However, the big difference in value is that Griffey won’t field, which devastates his value, and will probably just DH against Righties, his specialty. Combine that with Safeco’s lefty friendly design and he fits well there at the price. For us he would have been fielding which is a bad, bad, bad idea. Besides which, the farewell tour in Seattle will be worth 10 times as many ticket sales as it would here, which is valuable for the Mariners.

by Perrinbar on Feb 19, 2009 4:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is very true.

The AL West is probably going to be the worst division in baseball next year. And Safeco was built with Griffey in mind. Go ahead and knock us for our lack of originality (would be well-deserved here) but there is a reason why we call it The House that Griffey Built.

Griffey is a hero in Seattle to the average fan. This is a great business move by the Mariners. As a baseball move…meh. Maybe adds a win over the course of the season.

by brayden04 on Feb 19, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“His signing with Seattle makes no sense.”

Until you look at the dollar signs. They probably offered him more, and he came up with a lame ass excuse about his feelings being hurt by some reporter so he wouldn’t look like a money whore to his Seattle fans. What a jerk.

If this is his reaction, being so butthurt about little things like that, then good riddance. And to think that he personally campaigned to be part of the Braves. Unbelievable.

by soup du jour on Feb 19, 2009 6:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Haha I don't think many people in Seattle would accuse Griffey of being a money whore.

He did take a lot less to play in Cincy.

I can’t speak for Griffey now, I haven’t been a huge follower while he’s been in Cincy. But when he was younger he was known for being a bit of a drama queen. So I suppose it’s possible that he got upset with that report from the beat writer. But I can’t believe any rational human being would choose where they would work and live for the next year over some basic article like that.

by brayden04 on Feb 19, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a big deal?

I have to admit that I was in favor of getting Griffey over a guy like Swisher because both of them are average players at best and Griffey would give us more long-term flexibility. Not getting Griffey doesn’t change much, either. Let’s face it, Griffey was not the answer the team really needs for a power hitting outfielder, but was probably the best option at this point. Minimal upgrade also equates to minimal loss. Who knows what may still pop up, but from a baseball perspective, I don’t see this as a make or break issue for the team.

by MurphyHOF on Feb 19, 2009 6:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nope, its probably a blessing in disguise. I just don’t like how the whole thing went down with his prima donna attitude.

by soup du jour on Feb 19, 2009 6:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely.

I love Griffey but I hope I don’t have to watch him in stumble around in the OF. I think you guys dodged a bullet really.

by brayden04 on Feb 19, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I think a lot of people in Atlanta fell in love with the idea of Ken Griffey Jr, but couldn’t see past the reality that was his demolished legs, and diminished ability to field. I can see why the Mariners and their fans are so ecstatic to have him back, and the fact that the Braves didn’t get him, I’m happy for all sides involved.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Feb 19, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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