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The Braves and Left Field and Tom Glavine

I've gotta say that two weeks ago I thought we would have signed someone to play left and bat cleanup by now, but now I still feel we'll keep holding out until later in spring training. In the past couple of days the top two best options for that spot have disappeared off the market. Bobby Abreu signed with the Angels to fill their sixth outfield spot, and Adam Dunn signed with the Nationals to fill their ninth outfield spot. (Honestly, did either of these teams need another outfielder like the one they got?)

The Braves and their fans are now left with that persistent question mark in left, and no real big free agent bats remaining to fill it. Here is what K-Ros has to say about our outfield scramble:

Club officials, major-league sources say, would prefer a left-handed hitter, and are checking into the remaining free agents -- Garret Anderson, Luis Gonzalez, Jim Edmonds and Ken Griffey Jr.

A trade for the Yankees' Nick Swisher also remains possible, but the Braves almost certainly could land one of the free agents for less than the $5.3 million that Swisher will earn in 2009.

I could have sworn we were set with left-handed hitters (KJ, Chipper sometimes, McCann, Kotchman), and that we wanted a righty to slot in between Chipper and McCann or Chipper and Kotchman. Signing one of the available bats he mentions as the centerpiece of our lineup -- Garret Anderson, Luis Gonzalez, Jim Edmonds and Ken Griffey Jr. -- would be tantamount to the mistakes we made last year in assembling our aged and injury-prone starting rotation.

Certainly money can't be the only thing holding up the Nick Swisher trade, but the Yankees don't have to make a trade and can demand more.

This brings me back to my earlier assertion that the Braves will wait until later in spring training to decide how to proceed with their left field vacancy. But if the team is so close to the red line with their budget, why are they even entertaining the possibility of signing Tom Glavine. They've already taken a PR hit with the departure of John Smoltz. Go ahead and take all your hits in one year and jettison Glavine before he costs the team anything.

This is tough situation because the right bat in left field and the middle of the lineup could mean that this team is a true contender in the NL East, but adding Tom Glavine, and all the questions about his healthy and his ability to pitch into his 40's, is not the move that will make this team a true contender in the NL East -- but it will eat up valuable salary room that could be used on that needed bat.

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But regardless, it’s simple. The Nationals have them, and nobody else does. It doesn’t matter if it hurts everyone else to hoard a surplus of ML-ready outfielders, because it doesn’t hurt them. Ever since Manny Acta took over, every off-season has been a competition for spots for their players. I can’t say that there’s anything wrong with a little bit of internal competition, either. It weeds out the one who want to play from the ones who take their positions for granted.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Feb 12, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Braves apparently can’t afford a free agent to play left field full time, and the asking price from teams with a surplus of corner outfielders only goes down as April approaches. And although I can appreciate that approach, if Francouer were to show no signs of being able to provide reliable right-handed power in the middle of the lineup AND we’re still flailing about seeking a left fielder come mid-March, we’re really screwed.

by Tokyokie on Feb 12, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we could Willingham with a Prado + Redman trade? It seems if Nick Johnson can’t be dealt somewhere that Dunn will be playing in LF leaving Willingham the odd man out. Or could it be that Kearns could be had with the Nats eat 4 Mil of this years salary?

Man it seems to me that we couldn’t afford any of the viable FA options with Abreu/Dunn with 5 Mil with or without signing Glavine. Maybe FW overreached with the signing of KK at 8Mil that could of been used for one of the FA.

Diaz/BJones platoon is going make me sick if I have to see that the whole season…

by Hanson-Ace on Feb 12, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather roll the dice with Diaz/BJones than any of the options Rosenthal mentioned…Edmonds maybe.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 12, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be down for some Griffey action…like you said about Anderson, he wouldn’t be much of an improvement in left, however, he’s a huge name that would definitely help fill some seats…

...catsports...

by bwellnjonesco on Feb 12, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His average was just about as bad as Dunn’s last season and it probably isn’t going to get any better. Wasn’t that your main problem with Dunn?

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 12, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t say I wanted Griffey batting lead off…I didn’t have any problem with Dunn, I wanted him to be a Brave pretty badly. My arguement with Dunn centered around his value in the middle of the lineup being much better than at the top of it.

...catsports...

by bwellnjonesco on Feb 12, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know about all that leadoff nonsense. But, I thought that your issue with Dunn was that you didn’t want him in the middle of our order because he had a poor BA…but perhaps I am confusing you with someone else. Sorry if that’s the case.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 12, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I always said he was a great middle of the order player. I didn’t want him at the top because of his poor contact hitting skills, and I mentioned BA, among other things, to show that. Your probably thinking about me, just confused on something I said…that thread was unorganized as fff…

...catsports...

by bwellnjonesco on Feb 12, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My apologies then.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 12, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ur thinking of justincredible

the guys a huge dousche cant stand him… smells like pickels

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 12, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sucks in general, makes FanShots that aren’t about Braves baseball

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 12, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey now.. im allowed to insult him we are friends outside of the blog world.. and we share the same first name

but he does suck in general

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 13, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jk, I’m all for UNC-Duke FanPosts. He’s funny too.

I'll handle u in spring training - phil413

by mattdiaz4life on Feb 13, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Glavine/LF

I honestly think the Braves best option for obtaining a left fielder is to do so via the trade market. A Swisher or a Nady acquisition from the Yanks should fit into the budget, although with Nady being a free agent at the end of the year and being represented by Scott Boras, I don’t see the Braves trading talent to get him.

I agree to some extent with your position on Glavine. The money spent on him could be used towards our LF’er, and if we did acquire Swisher, it would probably eat up most of our remaining available funds. However, since Glavine is willing to work out a creative, incentive-laden deal with the team, with very low risk, if I’m Frank Wren I listen. A healthy Glavine in the fifth spot will be a lot more dangerous then any rookie who would win the job out of camp. Also, it would allow for Hanson to mature a little more at the minor league level, although I do see him getting a mid-season call up.

Either way, it is going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out. If they do cut ties with Glavine, the battle for the fifth spot will be one of the most exciting things to watch in Spring Training.

by Daria1047 on Feb 12, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PULL THE TRIGGER

SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES

JOE-BO FOR THE BENCH IN 09

by bigjoe on Feb 12, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The question is what would we have to throw in

to get his special police escort that is required to keep him out of jail?

by Lennox on Feb 12, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you quoting him from some soon to be revealed crime he took part in? Oh wait, he doesn’t use guns, just fists. On women.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 12, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hypocritical much?

SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES

JOE-BO FOR THE BENCH IN 09

by bigjoe on Feb 12, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t even know about that, and yeah, it’s terrible. Definitely colors my perception of Bobby. But, it was also one instance in the life of a 67 year old. Taking a look at Dukes’ page, you see a 24 year old who has done much worse in less than a third of the time. Again, it doesn’t excuse Bobby for his terrible action, but to compare him to Dukes really isn’t fair.

www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Feb 12, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, he looks like he’s having fun!

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Feb 12, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Guillen?

I’ve been saying all along that the Braves should look into acquiring him or at the very least ask KC’s Dayton Moore what the starting point would be in a trade.

I know if the Royals were willing to pay some of his remaining salary then the Braves should only have to give up a high level prospect (G. Hernandez) and low level pitching prospect.

What do you think?

by ChipperTeixeira89 on Feb 12, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hes not very good and he costs alot (money wise)

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 12, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Has it REALLY come to this?

SWAGGA LIKE BJONES, SWAGGA LIKE BJONES

JOE-BO FOR THE BENCH IN 09

by bigjoe on Feb 15, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cardinals outfielder

eventually by trade?
schumaker for prado? (with kennedy released there is a need)
ankiel for gonzalez? (near deadline deal when both ankiel and soriano have shown no lingering health issues)
depends on what you are willing to give and how good of an outfielder you want. ludwick / johnson straight up, is not going to fly.

by ball in play on Feb 13, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

u would take Schumaker for Prado?
interesting, but Schumaker isnt what we are looking for in an OF, we need some pop… he doesnt necessarily have that.

i wouldnt take Ankiel for Gonzalez….at least not right now, maybe in May or June… he is our healthiest RP

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Feb 13, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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