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Fred Lewis and Juan Pierre

Man, I'm sure you guys are going to tear me apart for this one, but I had the idea of the Braves making the trade for Freddie Lewis or Juan Pierre.  Maybe it's because I'm from California, but I feel like both players would have their place in Atlanta.  Argument below:

 

For whatever reason Brucy Bochy absolutely hates Fred Lewis.  Case in point: Randy Winn, Nate Schieurholtz, and Eugenio Velez ALL got more at bats in 2009 than Lewis, despite Lewis having a superior line.  Furthermore, Brian Sabean and Bochy have come out and already said that Andres Torres and Eugenio Velez will be the LF platoon for SF in 2010.  It seems pretty clear that Lewis is the odd man out, and could be had for little more than a bag of baseballs and a Kelly Clarkson album.  Lewis will provide a decent OBP and above average speed for the position until one of the Jason's is ready.  Once they are, Lewis will serve as an above average 4th outfield option.  If he doesn't work out for the Braves, he will not bogg down the salary cap and, well to be frank, I don't like Kelly Clarkson anyway. 

 

Derek Lowe for Juan Pierre?  The Dodgers need pitching and Lowe's obviously pitched well for them in the past.  Seems like a reasonable swap of bad contracts.  Again, Pierre would add an above average speed and OBP element to the Braves game.  They'd also save what, 25mm over the course of the next 3 years? 

 

Either Lews or Pierre could replace McLouth at the top of the lineup, and allow him to slip into a run producing spot in the lineup.  Also, because of the money saving element of either deal, we'd be in a better position to resign Adam LaRoche.

Now, before any of you guys jump down my throat on this one, I'll be the first to admit that I'd rather have a Mike Cameron in the OF, too, but I'm concerned that that would hurt our chances for respectable production from the 1B position.  I'd rather have Lewis/Pierre and LaRoche over Cameron and, I don't know, Nick Johnson?  Basically the same offensive production only younger, cheaper, and with less injury risk. 


All this, btw, is on the assumption that Soriano doesn't accept arbitration.  Who saw that one coming?  If he does accept, would anyone else rather see them trade Wagner than Soriano?  For the same price, I'll take the guy who's the sure bet.  Too many ?'s with Wagner's age and injury recovery.  Oh yea, if we make the trade for Lewis or Pierre, we could most likely afford to keep Soriano...not bad, huh? 

Oh no! Rosterbation!  I know it's against the "talking chop" code of conduct, but hopefully you'll agree that I've raised enough points, good or bad, to merit this being a fanpost:

RF Freddie Lewis/Juan Pierre

2B Martin Prado

3B Chipper Jones

C Brian McCann

CF Nate McLouth

1B Adam LaRoche

SS Yunel Escobar

LF Matt Diaz

 

Bullpen:

Peter Moylan

Takashi Saito

Rafael Soriano

Billy Wagner

 

Last thing, on a non-baseball note, if any of you play the market, watch XMDC and ADLS, both should be moving in the next week or two.  Feel free to do your own DD for validation of that.  Maybe we can all get filthy rich and buy the Braves ourselves, or at least some nice Christmas presents.


Thanks for your time all, hope everyone's Christmas season is a merry one. 

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The Braves should...
Trade for Freddie Lewis
18 votes
Trade Derek Lowe for Juan Pierre
33 votes
Neither
55 votes

106 votes | Poll has closed

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what?

you want Juan Piefuckingrre in RF?

my 2 year old daughter has a stronger arm than that guy. please. please just stop and step away from the computer.

Fred Lewis, however, is a smart move that the Braves COULD make. However, I see that Wren has a few more substantial irons in the fire.

I think a lot of people saw Soriano accepting arbitration but the Front Office believes that he’s just doing that as a way to get other team’s involved. Heck, he’s got what, 6 hours to accept? it’s now or never for him.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Dec 7, 2009 5:59 AM EST reply actions  

He’s actually got 11 hours, the deadline is Midnight Eastern.

by J-Freak on Dec 7, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Lewis

is a Lefty. As is Pierre. As is LaRoche. We need a RH bat or Lefties will KILL us.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Dec 7, 2009 6:07 AM EST reply actions  

Strange how this logic doesn’t apply vis-a-vie RH bats and RH pitching. Not trying to be a smartass here, but I never hear: We need a LH bat or Righties will KILL us.

"Brian McCann will be guest starring as Bizarro in Smallville this fall. See, he has to put his glasses on to become Superman." -by Rhyno18 on Aug 4, 2009 5:52 PM EDT

by Chopaholic on Dec 7, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

you hear teams often say they need a LH bat.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 7, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

judging from the commentary...

would Lewis not be non-tendered and still available without sending Lowe their way?

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 7, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Winn would be nice to get but no on Pierre, maybe on Lewis depends on if we cant make other moves and what it would take to get him.

braves#1

by rockybull on Dec 7, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

I might take Randy Winn five or six years ago

I might take Juan Pierre on my cousin’s little league team. He’s got 15-homer pop when the fence is 260.

"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve read that the although the Dodgers are looking for starting pitching, they have no interest in bringing Lowe back.

"Sometimes I wonder what'd it be like to be outside and not hear the birds chirping...I think it'd be kind of nice."

by alligatorimpersonator on Dec 7, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

You want Juan Pierre to play a corner.

Think about that for a minute.

Fixed.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Dec 7, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Fred Lewis is acceptable but damn I like my Kelly Clarkson albums

by acie4mvp on Dec 7, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7o7cG3kEbk

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by cbwilk on Dec 7, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy sh*t. At first I was like, this is stupid…some white girl acting like a fool. But then I was like, dammmmn!! That ending was funny.

by Sparhawk on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

man i love that song. it may not be cool, but its straight ear candy

I thought hurricane season was over........

by bravesguy311 on Dec 8, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Because of that five second clip, that song will live in my head for the next week.

I say we play it over the PA at Turner every time Frenchy comes to town.

"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

No to Pierre

Yes to Fred Lewis. I really think he’s got potential. Even if he’s an asshole…

MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...

by nick9314 on Dec 7, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

What about Brett Gardner from the Yankees?

I like your thinking. I too think a true lead off man is our best bet for budget and would actually improve home run production. But I would have McLouth batting 3rd, just like Ron Gant did years ago, with Chipper forth. With Nate batting 3rd and a true base stealer like Gardner at lead off, he’ll see more fastballs and probably hit at least 25 home runs and still have 25 stolen bases. With TWO base stealers Chipper and McCann will see more fastballs and I bet their home runs will go up. I think trading Lowe to the Yankees could net us a package that could include Gardner who is a has great range in the outfield and is the fastest man in the league. My line up would be Gardner, Prado, McLouth, Chipper, McCann, Escobar, LaRoche and Diaz.

by zzbeach on Dec 17, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

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