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Troy Glaus close with Braves

From Ken Rosenthal via Twitter:

Troy Glaus close with Braves. He will play 1B

Ugly line last year:  14 games 0 hrs and .172 avg

He had a good year in 2008 with 27 hrs and an .856 OPS

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/glaustr01.shtml?redir

Not quite what I was hoping for, but if he's healthy he could be a bridge to Freeman as long as the money is minimal.

I thought he was much older, but he was only 32 last year. Maybe this still leaves us with cash to go for an outfielder?

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I am happy enough with this signing.

Of the right-handed guys out there, he looked like the best, assuming he is healthy. And I do assume he is healthy enough as he has provided his medical reports to all MLB teams, I would hope we thoroughly reviewed them. He is certainly a better option than Dye.

I wouldn’t worry about last year’s numbers—-they were from about a week or two. He was hurt the whole rest of the season.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed, it's like him struggling the first two weeks of the season...

it happens, and not surprising considering he was shaking off rust as others were pushing for the playoffs.

And you’d hope he wouldn’t take all of the $10-15m left until we hit the Liberty Media salary cap, leaving room for Garko/Nady/Jacobs/etc.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

FanShot, question mark?

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry

Never done this before. Next time I’ll do it as a Fan shot.

by playertobenamedlate on Dec 23, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool.

Not an attack. Just a note for the future. It’s the preferred method for these kind of quick blurbs, and you can still provide your commentary under your link.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

If this guy is healthy, and he seems to be...

We could have an absolute steal on our hands. Glaus is a true 25-30 bat with an average line over the last three years of .261/.364/.491/.856 and a possitve UZR at third base in his last two full years which should bode well at 1B.

Love the signing!

by bbxxj on Dec 23, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Not to mention

He’s played a lot of 3B in his career. Most of his career, actually. Will give Bobby some options for the inevitable Chipper injury time.

by blairblink on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Assuming his shoulder gets back to normal, which is no guarantee.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Obviously depending on the money amount, this is a good deal. Look at his wOBA the past few years. He’s getting up there in age but if healthy he can still swing it

by eaheckman10 on Dec 23, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Per Rosenthal...

…the deal is now done. One year deal heavy with incentives. No word on the $$ amounts let, which will be important in deciding whether we sign anyone else. Part of me wants us not to—-if Glaus is it, Heyward likely starts the season in Atlanta. On the other, hand, with Chipper and Glaus at the corners, I’d like somebody else around with some power to fill in when the inevitable injury strikes. My guess would be Nady; and I would be happy with him in that kind of role.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

Infante.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 23, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

You do know he has a .126 career ISOP, right?

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Good news.

I’m glad we’re not stuck paying him a lot of money if he ends up struggling with any of his injury issues from last year.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS...

at the reported price, that’s a damn good deal and leaves room for another to balance out his injury risk.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Which reported price is that?

I haven’t seen one reported at all.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

so you want an injury prone nady, to fill in for an injury prone glaus…

DeRo is definately the way to go

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by Hcgadawgs on Dec 23, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

terms?

ought to come pretty cheap, don’t you think? with some PA based incentives perhaps?

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by rbratt3 on Dec 23, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

the guy has only played 38 fucking innings of his career at first base..

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by Hcgadawgs on Dec 23, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

He has been a decent third baseman...

…and the move from third to first is done all the time. He is tall, too, so I don’t see much worry there. And while he hasn’t played much first before, it is not like there was any need for him to do that while in St. Louis, lol.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

and can get a lot more all spring...

it’s not like he’s Chipper with the glove either.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a concern for me, too.

Not something for me to drop an f-bomb over, but yes, a concern.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that our roster is basically set...

what does our batting order look like if we don’t make any more moves?

by Fischerking on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

I don't know if we are done.

With Glaus’s injury history, I wouldn’t mind a cheapish 1B or 1B/OF bench guy like Garko or Nady. Depends on the money we spent on Glaus.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

McLouth
Prado
Chipper
Glaus
BMac
Escobar
Diaz
Heyward

Eh…not bad. If Heyward tears it up, Glaus and Chipper stay relatively healthy and Diaz and Prado continue to hit like they did in 09, we’ll be good. That’s a lot of if’s tho.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

But we don't need all of those to come true.

We just need some. Despite Chipper being off-form, and FUGA in our line-up, we still managed to be sixth in runs in the NL last year. Just a few of those things happening and we should be fine; our pitching is still very good.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

good point

not to mention we had a really bad month from FYF and Schafer in there too. And, ahem, KJ didn’t do much either the first few months.

I’m just saying we’re in a lot of trouble if our corner infielders don’t stay healthy.

I just really wish we would’ve signed Mike Cameron. He was signed for relatively cheap and could’ve let McLouth and MattyD have a nasty platoon in LF.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

but at 2 years, Cameron becomes inhibitive...

he’s clearly better than Cabrera. But Cabrera is easier to move, or non-tender, if Schafer and Heyward come up and produce, in addition to having McLouth and Diaz around. Between Diaz and Cabrera, it’s easy to see one having a bad year and being non-tendered, with the other becoming trade bait or a platoon with McLouth/Schafer while Heyward takes over RF for 2011.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we need to non-tender anyone here.

Melky is fine as a fourth OF and can retain that role. If Diaz continues to hit, he is very tradeable. If he doesn’t he shouldn’t cost that much. He could be non-tendered if necessary, but I doubt it would come to that. On the other hand, I would have said the same about Kelly Johnson.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I would have love Cameron, too.

But alas, he is already gone. The bigger names left out there just don’t excite me too much except for the ones we can’t afford.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

not sure if we could afford him

but I’d definately take Mark DeRosa. Glaus and Chipper are definately going to get banged up and will need days off. Heyward and McLouth will need days off against tough lefties.

Hell, adding DeRosa might even let us keep Heyward in AAA until June. He could man RF until June and then start filling in all over the place.

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by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

the 3 year thing hurts Derosa...

if he’d take less, or less years, Glaus’ deal can easily fit him in too.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see us signing DeRosa.

The money it will take would be too much for a reserve, even super-utility role. He just doesn’t hit enough to make into an every day OF. His biggest value is putting him at second—-his bat is good for a second baseman, not so good for the other positions he plays. Per MLBTR, the Giants have already offered 2 years/$12 million. I would not want the Braves to try to match or top that.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree that's too rich...

on to Garko, Huff, Nady, Hinske, etc.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but we were so inconsistent.

Scoring 5 runs a game by getting between 4-6 is better every night than alternating 1 and 9.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

the bench.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

This is exactly the kind of low cost, injury risk signing I was afraid of after Vasquez was traded. If a lot of things go right (Chipper returns to form, Heyward is as awesome as we hope, Glaus stays healthy and hits like he did years ago), this offense could be okay. But the Braves could have afforded a much better one. I would have rather spent the money on better hitters that Wren instead spent on Wagner and Saito and kept Vasquez and moved Kawakami to the pen.

by redwards95 on Dec 23, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

I think it is a good signing.

I am not sure why you oppose. You state that Glaus needs to hit like he did years ago, but I’d be thrilled with what Glaus did in 2008. (Okay, technically, that was 2 years ago, but that wasn’t your point.) I don’t know which much better hitter we could have afforded—-Bay and Holliday were still too expensive, and LaRoche wanted too many years.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I see what you're saying

but Glaus is a perfect fit to bridge us to Freeman. This way, Freddie can play all of 2010 in AA ball and move up to AAA for the playoffs. If he hits well, he’ll be our starting 1B in 2011. If he struggles, then we’re only out a few million bucks and we can re-examen our situation.

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by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

…Glaus stays healthy and hits like he did years ago

Yeah, 2008 was a long time ago.

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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

...if by years you mean a year.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

...because after a full career of starting, Kawakami was a sure bet to suceed as a reliever.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally called this...

…in the 2010 Opening Day lineup predictions… but anyways.

I like this signing a lot. That line you posted isn’t saying much, he was just coming off of shoulder surgery and didn’t get much playing time. That being said, we will still have some money to go after one more person… who that will be I don’t know, but it best be an outfielder.

Oh and by the way, this is why we signed Mitch Jones — he can spell Glaus if an injury were to happen, and we wouldn’t have to worry about rushing Freeman.

by BigG1392 on Dec 23, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

good job

only a few of you did.

My predictions are so dead it’s not even funny.

And, ya know, I think I deserve a little credit for putting it up when I did! I must be able to sense big moves or something…

Ha, just kidding. But I was the home run caller in September. Some of you in the GTs might remember this. :)

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember those quite well hahah. Can’t wait for those to start back up

by BigG1392 on Dec 23, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

for real!

It’s only 103 days until the start of the season and something like 67 until pitchers and catchers report…i was bored as hell the other day and made little post it notes to count down. I stuck em on my door and I rip one off every morning. Can’t wait for the season to start.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

You just allowed me to convince my wife that things could be worse. Many thanks.

by poormrtoad on Dec 23, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

You just gave me an awesome idea for something to do while I’m off for the holidays. Many thanks.

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by Yakker on Dec 24, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright so the Jason Bay prediction has already fallen through.

Pay up. ;-)

by get swoll yunel on Dec 23, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd prefer Mitch Jones to be much lower on the list than Plan B.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

why he proved himself with good numbers all the way around last year in AAA and a little with the dodgers..

what else do you want out of a backup…he has a ton of power and the ability to come off the bench and tie a one run game up is very valuable

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by Hcgadawgs on Dec 23, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, 30-year-olds are definitely proven with good AAA numbers.

Ha.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure itch Jones is taking Greg Norton’s spot as PH/backup 1B. And if he really is Jack Cust, I have no problem with that.

by FineHamAbounds on Dec 23, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Itch. Think we have a new nickname. Gondee, make it happen!

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Dec 24, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You'll note Cust was an MLB regular three years younger than Jones is now.

They’re not close to the same player.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones also started his professional career three years later. Could be that this is Mitch’s year…

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by cbwilk on Dec 24, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

While I am not exactly creaming my shorts here

This signing would offend me less than alot of others.

If healthy Glaus is still a legitimate power threat who will see a (reasonable) amount of pitches and provide a decent threat in the middle of the lineup.

With the exception of last year he can be expected to put up a mid .800’s OPS over the past 5 years. And this has been done playing in two very pitcher friendly parks, STL and TOR.

Lot’s of upside, but the durability is a major concern for me.

by Sid Bream's Moustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

And let's keep some perspective here

Compared to Kotchman (.647 OPS in ATL last year), an .860 OPS at first base is about the difference between Glaus and Pujols.

food for thought.

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by Sid Bream's Moustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I miss Javy too

:(

My favorite thing about him? He just gets the ball from the catcher, toes the rubber and throws the damn baseball. He doesn’t fart around and kick the dirt like KK and DLowe do.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

He should see more than a reasonable amount of pitches, his BB% for his career is like 13%

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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, assuming he's healthy...

…he’s pretty wysiwyg. He will give good power, a weak batting average, and plenty of walks. Again, assuming assuming health, I think he is a good fit.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Depending on the terms...

I like it. Not going to get much better for what he is probably going to be making. I’d like to also sign Derosa to make the pain of yesterday easier.

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by Mike Kerns on Dec 23, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Terms

“David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution says (via Twitter) that it’s a one-year deal worth $2MM plus incentives.”

Wow… that’s pretty good for Atlanta… may be another move available.

by carpengui on Dec 23, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder...

if this deal comes with a flux capacitor so we can go back and grab the Troy Glaus of 2000 and 2001. Otherwise, it might be another FUGA type signing.

"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."

by bravos1984 on Dec 23, 2009 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

When healthy...

…Glaus has pretty much always produced. Not really a FUGA situation at all. And he is only 32.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

this

"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Health is still a big question though. Anderson was hurt early and had a lukewarn season, so that might wind up being a comparable situation.

"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."

by bravos1984 on Dec 23, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

If Yocum signs off on it, you’re probably gonna be fine.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

...except not at all.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I sure hope it won’t be.

"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."

by bravos1984 on Dec 23, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Likes the move but.....

Was willing to give Wren the benefit of the doubt on yesterdays trade. But how much better are we with Glaus at 1B – Javy in rotation. I guess you got to hope Arodys makes this look better in a few years, or we sign someone else to go with Glaus. De Rosa would be great.

by MBraves! on Dec 23, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Vasquez to Lowe next year likely isn't a huge gap...

or at least not near the gap that could be Glaus to Garko? at 1B. Plus does anyone know the $? I’d assume Glaus would be perhaps $5-8+ incentives, leaving perhaps another $3-5m for a second bat to be added for depth.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I’d definately take DeRosa now. And if the reports are correct, he’s lowered his demands for a new contract.

I’m not positive, but IIRC, MD has played 1B, 2B, 3B, LF and RF. That’s some serious versatility. We all know Chip and Glaus will be banged up and Jason Heyward will need a few days off against tough lefties as he adjusts to a 162 game schedule.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

He's actually spent some pretty signficant time at SS, too.

Much more than at first, although not as recent. That’s what he was drafted/came up as.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m gonna guess about $3MM with $3MM in incentives for PAs.

I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!

by Scott Coleman on Dec 23, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew this was a revolving door position, but...

Per DOB: “David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution points out (via Twitter) that Troy Glaus will be the Braves’ 11th opening day first baseman in 12 seasons.”

I dunno if this means that Bobby Cox thinks that just about any lug can play first base or if this is simply a position that has been a bugaboo for the Braves. Either way, it’s kinda nutty.

by carpengui on Dec 23, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It's been a bugaboo...

we spent big for Tex, and couldn’t hold on to him. Tried to flip him for Kotch (who was felt to at least be capable of filling the role for 2-3 years until Freeman was ready), and that failed. I’m surprised Adam LaRoche didn’t have 3-4 opening days in there, but we’ve had a bit of bad luck there trying to lock that position down since we gave away Klesko following McGriff.

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Cat?

…after the cancer, of course.

Wren Be Praised.
WWFWD?

by !Vive la Francoeur! on Dec 23, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So are we set after this? I don’t see room for anyone else in the outfield or pen.

Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.

by TradeAndruw on Dec 23, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

Bill James projects a .356 wOBA

which translates to a WAR of 2.7 at 1B. Add/Subtract to this a defensive adjustment and subtract for possible playing time missed and he should still be worth around 2.5 to 3.0 WAR, depending on how you project those two other factors. Help me out here as I don’t follow the Braves all that closely. Does this move Prado over to second base and Infante to the bench? In other words, what does the 2B depth chart now look like?
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by Xeifrank on Dec 23, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Yes I think so.

I don’t think Prado was every going to play first, we were always going to sign someone. Prado plays second and Infante is super utility guy.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Prado was always going to play second.

2B depth chart probably looks like:
Prado
Infante
Thurston or Conrad or D. Hernandez, depending on which, if any makes the 25. If somehow more than one, that’s probably the order, although Thurston and Diory would play elsewhere.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

TROY GLAUS:

KID HITS BOMBSSSSS

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by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Called this before the season ended, thought he was a perfect fit if healthy and still do. Solid glove which should translate to very good D at 1B, simply does not put up an OPS under .800 so no more Kotchman repeats, and he has an ISO of like .240 for his career so you know power is there

by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

Just curious...

What are the odds Heyward could have a spot start here and there to spell a guy like Glaus at 1B when he comes up? He did play there in HS, which ain’t exactly too long ago.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Fair enough.

But versatility’s never a bad thing.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t doubt it but I’m sure the Braves will make sure Heyward is in RF for good when he comes up and not having to think about scooping throws from escobar. Need to get a capable backup for 1B though (erik hinske?)

by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hinske’s played a little 3B, too…might not be a bad idea.

"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

How is he as a PH? If he’s decent there too, it’s another bonus. I know he’s played corner OF before as well, so that helps the cause.

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by VegasAces on Dec 23, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

255, .371, .373, .744, 2 HR, 14 RBI in 104 ABs

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by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d take that from Hinske as a PH. a bench of Hinske, Ross, Infante, Thurston, and Melky (i hope we sign DeRosa or Nady to start in RF until Heyward comes up) would be a killer bench and there wouldn’t be a huge talent drop-off if someone were to go down to injury

by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the Hinske idea.

The DeRosa idea, not so much. DeRosa costs too much (he has been offered 2 yrs/$12 million already) to be a reserve guy, and he really doesn’t hit well enough to deserve that salary as an every day outfielder. I could see us signing the one who comes cheap of the group of Garko & Nady as Corner infield insurance, but I think Hinske would fill that role just as well even cheaper. Hinke can play OF and Nady, given the recent TJ surgery, may not be able to make the throws from the outfield at the start of the season.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s an interesting question, but I doubt he does it. I don’t think he’s played first as a pro, and doesn’t really need to since he’s athletic enough for the outfield and he’s an above average defender. It is good to keep in mind for later in his career if he slows up a little. One day he might shift to left and then to first, but for now he’s the kind of guy you’re expecting to be the star of the team, so it’s worth letting him be settled at one place. (Of course, that didn’t stop them from trying to move Chipper to LF and then moving him to 3B when he came up.)

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by cbwilk on Dec 24, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He has indeed not played 1st in the minors.

I was just curious. And for an example of a guy who played all around the diamond as a star, check out Pujols:
01-78 OF, 55 3B, 43 1B
02-118 OF, 41 3B, 21 1B
03-113 OF, 62 1B

If nothing else, it would help in late-inning PH situations so we didn’t have to burn a hitter and a fielder.

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by MichaelProcton on Dec 25, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing with Pujols was that he wasn’t that great in the OF or at 3B (while he’s surprisingly outstanding at 1B) while Heyward is well above average in RF. I agree, versatility is always nice, but it’s not always necessary.

Remember when Pujols played 2B in his first All-Star game?

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by cbwilk on Dec 25, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He's actually played there in some regular season games, too.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 26, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t know that. He’s amazing. I’d let him pitch. My goal for Spring Training this year is to get his autograph. So far though, I’ve been very happy to see him play a few times.

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by cbwilk on Dec 26, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My eyes!!!

AHHHHHHH!

I cannot look directly at holiness…

"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."

by justincredubil02 on Dec 26, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

just touch the hem of his glove & you’ll be o.k.

by adc62 on Dec 27, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That is stellar.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 27, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

This was my consolation prize that day. My buddy and I were on the last day of our ST trip and we were getting Marlins but when we realized the Cardinals were playing we said, heck, why not try and get Pujols? Word is he signs pretty much every day when he leaves the game. So we grab our Pujols cards and but tickets. But, once we get inside, we realize the only way to get down to the spot where Cardinals will sign inside is to have tickets to the berm.
On the bright side, we got to meet and get autographs from Hall of Fame executive Lee McPahil, and meet his son, the GM of the Orioles.

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by cbwilk on Dec 27, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and it’s only been a few innings, and I’d guess in extras or something crazy like that, but he’s definitely done it.

Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 27, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I would hate to see that Howitzer attached to his left shoulder wasted at first base. The kid has an absolute cannon of an arm.

by Mountngrown on Dec 28, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that. Although occasionally it was a real plus with LaRoche for him to make a cutoff and throw a quick laser to the plate.

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by cbwilk on Dec 28, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My question is...

Are the Braves as good an offense or better than they were in 2009? I think the Braves are as good or potentially even better. I think there’s more power potential in this lineup than last year’s.

The Glaus signing allows McCann to hit 5th, which I think is very important. It provides protection for Chipper. It allows Escobar to stay in that 6th slot and drive in runs. I think it will work.

by kalesi on Dec 23, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

easily better imo, francouer and anderson gave us two regulars with OPS’s ~.700, that’s just plain awful. Cabrera is now the worst hitter and even he is probably good for a ~.750 OPS

by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And Cabrera is not likely to start for long...

…if he is a starter at all. The depends completely on Heyward’s spring, however.

by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Me: How good was that report on Glaus’ health, exactly? Is he an option as Chipper insurance?
DOB: Yes, he is. Played 3B for Cardinals some in September, made some dificult throws, etc. And is much stronger now than he was then.

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Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE

by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

nice

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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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