The Pitter-Patter of Trade Talks: Braves and Yankees could be up to Something
by gondeee on Dec 21, 2009 10:13 PM EST
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There are just too many hints at something tonight not to pass them along. First up is Buster Olney @ 9pm:
Heard this: Yankees working very hard tonight on deal for starting pitcher. Remember that they came close to deal for Aaron Harang in summer
Then Ken Davidoff about 20 minutes ago:
Hear that #Yankees have "two or three" serious trade talks for starting pitcher - A. Harang isn't one of them.
Then Ken Rosenthal shortly thereafter:
Source: Yankees in "active negotiations" for a starting pitcher. Not Harang. Trying to find out who.
...and...
This would be a trade, not a free-agent signing.
Then Ken Davidoff again:
Tweeps, I'm not teasing you. I don't know who the pitchers/teams are re: #Yankees trades. Trying to find out...
No mention of the Braves, but I'm still curious... very, very curious.
[UPDATE 10:40] Now Jon Heyman rules out the Zambrano rumor:
#yanks in talks for starting pitcher. doesnt appear to be harang. maybe not zambrano either (tho they talked to #cubs)
And by process of elimination, doesn't it just about have to be Lowe, or some trade target we haven't heard of yet.
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It would be nice if Wren cleaned up the mess he created, yes.
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what mess?
Frank Wren has done fine this offseason. People are upset that he hasnt pursued certain players but honestly i dont blame him for not persuing Cameron. He isnt a true power threat, his career is on the decline seeing as how he is like 37. LaRoche is seeking too much money and too long of a contract.
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has us locked in to $15MM a year for the next 3 years to Methuselah Lowe. That’s a huge mess that will cripple this team for years if it’s not fixed.
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we all knew that those Hanson, Kawakami, Hudson and Vazquez guys would all be so good.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude was 36 years old, and Wren locked $60 MM in to him.
Then we went and extended Hudson without moving Lowe first, now we’ve got a $15 MM 6th starter on our roster.
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn…that is horrible GM-ing…what kind of GM invests in good starting pitching???
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, what was I thinking? Every team wishes that they were paying $15 MM a year to a guy that they don’t have a spot on the team for.
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he was the opening day starter…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It gives us a tradeable commodity.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wait, Frank Wren isn’t God.
…Jesus.
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it would take the wisdom of Odin to realize you shouldn’t lock yourself in to a 4 year $60,000,000 deal with a 36 year old pitcher.
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would have taken the wisdom of Oden to realize that Hanson would be ready, Huddy would fully recover, Kawakami would adjust and Vaz would turn it on…but you are right…should have never signed a guy who can throw 200 innings every single year with effective results, even though we didn’t have a guy do that for about 3 years…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, the answer was to overpay for an aging pitcher?
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. when you have nothing else to do
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doing nothing is sometimes the best choice, long term.
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not really, at least in this case. i shouldn’t have to explain why. its already been done. but to each his own opinion
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So Wren shoudln’t have signed a top of the rotation pitcher?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he shouldn’t have signed Derek Lowe.
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quit being an idiot
Lowe was a good signing at the time.
KaPowakami and Huddy could be debatable, but not really Lowe. We were a little desperate for an “ace”.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, Lowe would have been a good signing at the time with a better contract, but Wren decided to blow away the nearest reported offer to make it happen.
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He did notch 15 Wins and could have had a few more. Fact.
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a “fact” that he could have notched a few more?
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess your preferred answer would have been to use JoJo and win 70 games?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I’d have offered Lowe a more reasonable contract, and moved on to other options if he didn’t sign. The nearest offer was something like 3/$36 from the Mets.
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...that you think you know of.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He could have been dumber and paid even more cash to AJ Burnett.
"Four of us wolves, running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine..."
by jeg on Dec 22, 2009 3:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know Greg Oden was wise about baseball contracts.
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He also had exceptionally low mileage on his arm for his age, and showed no signs whatsoever of slowing down.
Get over it.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Melodrama, much?
Lowe has averaged around $15M in value the last 4 years. Even if he slides down to $12M or $10M, it would hardly cripple the team.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why I think the fangraphs $ values are inflated.
A guy having a mediocre seasons like Lowe had is worth $12 MM a year?
Cole Hammels was worth $17 MM last year?
John Smoltz was worth $5MM for the Cards?
by Lennox on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I didn’t think about it like that. Since the data doesn’t agree with your notion of value, it must be the data that’s wrong, not your notion.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 22, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s right. Thanks for understanding.
I think there’s a scale issue between their “win value” and what real players make, where you shouldn’t just throw “He was worth X last year according to fangraphs,” out there as evidence for or against his contract.
Actual ACE caliber pitchers are worth somewhere around 30 MM by their system. Grienke was the top pitcher, worth $42MM.
CC, the top paid pitcher in the game, made $23 MM last year.
The real world contract of a player and the theoretical value of a WAR just aren’t the same thing.
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Jason Marquis just got $15M/2. So what?
Guys sign contracts all the time that either overvalue or undervalue them; that’s not exactly news. Lowe’s contract was probably a slight overpay at the time, but, as others have explained ad nauseum, Wren saw value in his dependability and consistency.
Regardless, to say that the contract will “cripple” the Braves for years is either blatant hyperbole or regrettably foolish.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 22, 2009 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yakker, not to be off topic,
But I just realized what your picture is. And it is amazing.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, yes, there was obviously some hyperbole involved
I think Marquis is exactly the point, he’s not “under valued”, the fangraphs money value is just on a whole different scale than the real world salaries these guys get. You can’t just compare Lowe being worth $12 MM on fangraphs to his $15 MM contract last year in a dollar for dollar sense.
Lowe and his $12 MM value is the 54th ranked starting pitcher on fangraphs.
The top 3 pitchers are worth $42, $37, and $37 MM.
In the real world Lowe was the highest paid player on our team, took up about 1/6th of the payroll, and was a top 10 paid player at his position. You simply need more production out of that much money than 54th best in the game if you’re going to contend.
If we can’t move Lowe, then, yes, I do think it will certainly seriously impact our ability to operate in the FA/trade markets over the next few years.
by Lennox on Dec 22, 2009 4:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs analyzes the value in wins per player. Surely you don’t quibble with the methodology used to compute WAR? Taking it the next step and analyzing how much a win is “worth” on the market is simply a logical extension of that. Again, if you’re really that bothered by the results, perhaps you need to reconsider your view of value.
Obviously, what someone is able to negotiate may differ from that, especially in an inefficient market such as MLB.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 22, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a misallocation of funds sure but like justin said no one could have predicted how quickly Hanson adjusted, the emergence of Vazquez as an ace, the continued success of Jurrjens, Kawkami being a legitimate MLB starter, and Hudson returning from TJ sans problems. If Wren had counted on all those happening and they didn’t we would be crippled but signing Lowe hardly “crippled” us
by McCann's the Man on Dec 21, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR said it wasn’t a salary dump situation, i wonder if that is just relevant for the Yankees or for either team involved..
by scottsharp76 on Dec 21, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Per MLBTR
9:11pm: Now Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News tweets that the Yankees are “close to a deal for a starting pitcher, says a source. Still working on who, but I’m told it’s not a salary dump deal”.
If it involves us it might be something bigger than just Lowe. Hasnt NY long lusted for a reliable utility man? Lowe+ Infante for Swisher+ prospect?
Wren Be Praised.
WWFWD?
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Dec 21, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt
It is that because we would be the one giving prospects in that case.
by JasonHeywardisGod on Dec 21, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We would?
Why?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have other pitchers besides Lowe. I doubt they’d want Vazquez, but they may seriously be giving a look at KaPowakami or Jurjiens. They’d have to send us some prospects, Swisher, and Mega-ball cash for JJ…
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
forget megaball cash
I would want Cano and Swisher lol
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would we dump Infante like that?
If we plan to contend, he has a role—and an important one—on this team.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed entirely
We can get rid of D-Lowe without blowing up the rest of the roster as well.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heyman
just tweeted its not Zambrano either
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I updated
[UPDATE 10:40] Now Jon Heyman rules out the Zambrano rumor:
#yanks in talks for starting pitcher. doesnt appear to be harang. maybe not zambrano either (tho they talked to #cubs)
And by process of elimination, doesn’t it just about have to be Lowe, or some trade target we haven’t heard of yet.
by gondeee on Dec 21, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really want to go to bed, but I feel I can’t… DAMN YOU HOT STOVE!!!
by gondeee on Dec 21, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have to pee so badly but I am afraid to leave my computer. And there are no empty soda bottles in reach. I am screwed.
Wren Be Praised.
WWFWD?
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Dec 21, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just pee on the floor and clean it up later.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i’m starting to have to pee, have the same problem, and have carpeting.
Teach me!
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh right… /sarcasm
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you have carpet, just lay some newspaper down – but you would have had to do this prior to getting involved on the interwebs…a little fore-sight is what you need!
:)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn.. i have a notebook….
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope your aim is true.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 22, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Always leave a gatorade bottle in reach...
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Code Red!
It’s the only WoW fuel there is.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lowe is not a salary dump.
If that makes Yankee fans feel better. I’d still be happy for them taking the full contract and a bag of balls in return. ;)
by cavebird on Dec 21, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
DOB but at 9 so who know's what's up
“Got a call from a NY writer today wanting to know if I’d heard anything heating up between Yankees and Braves…. Apparently Yankees have hinted at doing "something big" soon. Don’t know if that means pitching”.
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
(passes out)
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
oh Chief…
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
damn
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crap.
I was already penciling Swisher into LF and 5th in the lineup.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 21, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah, Bobby likes Mac too much in the 4 spot even if it makes more sense for him to hit 5 behind Swisher
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would
hate Bobby forever if he batted McCann ahead of Swish.
I already wonder how we would have done if Laroche was hitting cleanup for us instead of 7th
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s pretend that never happened…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wish i could
but i also highly believe we would have been in the post season . . .
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am refusing to think about it.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
leave the past behind us. lets move on and kick ass
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How much snow did you get?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
7-10 inches. at least i’m not on the island. Thanks for asking
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LUCKY
South Jersey got 20 inches dumped on us
Cockchafer
by bpk228480 on Dec 22, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow. I’m sorry. that must’ve been a bitch to shovel out. i had enough trouble up here
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m jealous of you guys…I want snow!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
It’s now snowed almost everywhere in the country but here in Tennefuckinsee. I HATE this state. But, ya know, for a lot more reasons than just snow…
by J-Freak on Dec 22, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tennessee doesn’t blow nearly as bad as Texas does…I really don’t get why people write songs about this place. It sucks.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a surface area kind of deal.
The per capita songs aren’t all that impressive.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve only visited the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, and it was years ago in middle school. But I hate this damn state with a passion, especially my hometown of Memphis (or Memphrica, or Armpit of the South, it goes by a lot of names). No one knows how to drive, EVERYFUCKINGTHING gets reduced to a racial issue, transportation/city planning is a joke… I just can’t wait to finish my degree and take the first bus outta this godforsaken dump.
by J-Freak on Dec 22, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
Memphis hardly counts as Tennessee. But it sure does suck.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a fan of Memphis, and Dallas/Ft Worth is about the nicest thing in Texas, outside of Austin.
Speaking of people not being able to drive, I can guarantee you that on any given day, if you go to any random parking lot, you will find no less than 5 people double parked…unintentionally. People in this town really cannot park.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re not alone, most of us that live here are not fans of Memphis. I hear it was a fairly nice place to live before the 90s, but then that asshole mayor took office and basically ruled this place for my entire lifetime, and his administration has driven us right into the ground. I’ve never seen one guy fuck up so much and still find a way to get re-elected. It boggles the mind.
by J-Freak on Dec 22, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It took like 4 hours just to do my driveway. The roads our horrible in my little town. We’re basically shut down till New Years.
Cockchafer
by bpk228480 on Dec 22, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lucky kinda. i really can’t deal with classes this week. plus i overall love the snow
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huge tackle football game tomorrow, I’m so pumped. The only problem is 20 inches is tough to run in.
Cockchafer
by bpk228480 on Dec 22, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Classes?
Are you in HS?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
24 inches in Boone, NC.
Mountaintop, baby.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I flew up to NY today
Out on long island, where I’m visiting my sister, they got like 3 feet
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it was crazy! but the snow came too early. had to go to damn classes today
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
looks like it wasn’t too bad in the city. But the wind made it the roughest landing I ever recall experiencing.
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
probably. wind was horrible all over the tri-state. city was okay but got the least. i think for once Jersey got it the best
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we cant
if our manager refuses to hit the hottest hitter on the team in the top part of the lineup. then it wouldnt matter who we got
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get how this eliminate’s D-Lowe if it isn’t a salary dump for the Yanks…now, if they said it wasn’t a salary dump for Atlanta, that would be one thing, but I read this to mean the Yanks aren’t dumping any salary, since it is a Yanks rumor.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point… plus this guy seems half drunk/half asleep/watching the MNF game…
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Redskins are horrible tonight.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly. even i’ve turned off the game
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel really bad for Campbell…he is a good QB.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for Jay Cutler
25 INT’s through 14 games…what a bum.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was an apologist for him early on, but gosh, he just has looked worse and worse. At the beginning, a lot of the INTs were tipped passes or bad routes or something like that…lately, he just looks like he doesn’t care where the ball goes.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine my disapointment
I mean, I’m a Bears fan for God’s sake!
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forte must really be upsetting you then too.
Gosh…I think the Bears are going the way of the Lions very quickly.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Our pourus O-line doesn't help
It’s like swiss cheese.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at least you aren’t the Rams…
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But the Rams have Steven Jackson at least.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And at least the Browns have...
uh, Josh Cribbs, I don’t know.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brady Quinn!
HAHAhA
“NOW I’m done!”
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can top that. the 49ers
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The 49ers are actually a really good team. I like what they have done.
They will make the playoffs next year.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with what QB? I’m sorry they won’t make it until they have a solid QB
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve never heard of Alex Smith? That guy is a man among boys!
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith will be fine.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno.. maybe enough to get there but not to win it all
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They'll end up with two top-20 picks.
Panthers traded our #1 for Everette Brown.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JAMES HARRISON!
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah…your whole roster is like swiss cheese…except for Jonny Knox (I am in Abilene right now, so I like to follow him)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Knox is one of our few bright spots. Too early to tell, but looking like a #1 reciever.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Along those lines, Abilene High School just won the Texas 5A Championship…the game was broadcast state-wide on ABC – in HD.
High School Football is no joke around here.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don Bosco. Represent!
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or not really but whatever
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats.
Baseball doesn’t stand a chance in Texas as long as football is around.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The line is SO bad.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's just not a winner.
When a guy’s not a leader of a winning team his whole post-HS career, that’s no coincidence. He was also referred to as “borderline uncoachable” by a source inside the Bears org. based on what I heard on ESPN Radio today.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always mock that “winner” sort of idea in baseball, but in football, it is legit. There are just some guys who get it done when it counts – Rothlesburger, Manning (both), Brady…it isn’t a coincidence. Those guys are all gamers.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Particularly at that position.
I hate that Panther fans are so down on Jake Delhomme. He’s had an awful season, to be sure, but he’s also got one of the best six or seven winning percentages as a starter in the league since he won the job, and he’s also in the top two or three in fourth-quarter comebacks.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To me, that is the definition of a good QB – the 4th quarter.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
does any of you guys think Favre is starting to slump?
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
100%. I saw this with the Jets. Happening all over again
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell. Yes. Wait ’til the playoffs.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Train wreck?
I think Erk Russell could have kicked Clint Eastwood and John Wayne's butts with a corn cob and one hand tied behind his back. GATA!
by AeroDawg on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone didn’t see it coming, they don’t know football.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol – you think he’s going to get another torn biceps tendon?
by Salty on Dec 22, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah…he is just old. This is a young man’s game. When was the last time he didn’t slow down around December?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha...
The Giants disagree.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean look at him the past 3 games… im a Vikings fan but with Favre slumping we could lose in the first round
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d venture to say you will. His inability to pass is hurting Peterson and the entire offense.
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and we were a running game before him and now peterson cant run either
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My fantasy team laments this fact. I have Peterson and missed the playoffs…ridiculous.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow. ftr.. did Turner’s team make it?
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope…that was the last team in the league. The rest of his team blows monkey nuts. Mine was actually decent though:
Favre, Petersen, Miles Austin, Hakim Nicks, Tim Hightower, Marion Barber…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a decent team too but the team I was playing against exploded in the semifinals, he had Rodgers, and A. Johnson
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No joke, in every league I played in this year (4 of them) I had the most points scored against me. Also, in every league, I lost to the last place team because the week I played them, they went off.
For example, in one league, I played the last place team (with a 1-9 record at the time) on Thanksgiving…he had Stafford and Calvin…I got beat badly and was the 3rd highest scoring team that week.
In my money league, I was the 2nd highest scoring team….and missed the playoffs.
Fantasy football bent me over royally this year.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the horror! the horror!
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I finished with the most points scored in the league and finished 7-7… I had Chris Johnson, Phillip Rivers, Ray Rice, Dallas Clark, Sims-Walker, Fitzgerald and Minnesota D
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How did you finish 7-7 with that roster?
I know MSW disappeared for about 3 weeks (I had him too and am a Jags fan), but geez, the rest of your team should have been able to pick him up!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know!! every time I played I finished with 120 points but my opponent finished with 130
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
thats just bad i am in the play offs in 2 of my 3 leagues and going to the championship game next week MoJo carried both my teams to the championship
by Erihury on Dec 21, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MoJo makes me proud to be a Jags fan…our arrow is definitely pointing up!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really like the Jags and I hoped they could beat the Colts
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 22, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fail. defense is too weak
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by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the D line is too weak. The rest of the squad is pretty good. Nelson is a bit out of position at safety, but the LBs and the DBs are all good.
We need a pass-rush. We didn’t even attempt to get to Manning.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. that
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where do you think Nelson should play?
He never played anywhere but there in college, and I desperately wanted him in the draft to play FS for years.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he would make a better DB than a safety. He is afraid of contact and misses a bunch of tackles. I am not sure how good he is at sticking a route or reading a QB, but he is definately outmatched in the safety spot.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CB, you mean?
I thought he had a shot there early this season due to injuries and failed miserably.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was our safety from the get-go this season…maybe you are right though…We have had so many defensive changes this season, I have lost track.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aha...got it.
Reggie Nelson moved from safety to cornerback to replace the injured Rashean Mathis and Nelson was targeted by the Titans, in both the passing and running games.
"Yeah, he had a tough day. He’s one of the guys who struggled with the tackling part of it. For him to continue to play, he’s got to play better. He understands that," Del Rio said.
And I’ll admit I haven’t actually seen him play much. But I’m a UF fan and loved him in college, and liked the numbers he put up as a rookie.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I thought he replaced Mathis.
He was good in college, but he is overmatched in the NFL – at least against Peyton Manning…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then again...
plenty do.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we were sooo close.
That game reminded me a ton of the playoff game against NE two years ago when Brady was nearly perfect.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not a Jags
fan but i love MoJo i really wanted to get Peterson but i hope MoJo can carry me to a championship next week
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that they always stick around, even if they're under the radar or lacking in elite talent.
I’d like to think as a Panthers fan that Fox helped instill some of that coaching fire in Del Rio.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God.
Things like that make me hate statistics.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow. damn. i take it you choked down the stretch?
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More like Speederson!
That is a burn.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did you guys see his touchdown yesterday…?
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that occasional shoddy tackling issue that's been cropping up for us all year.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Panthers have a REALLY good defense.
When Peppers feels like playing, it’s tough sledding for any QB. Add in the fact that their top wideouts were both struggling with injuries, as well as Peterson’s inability to get anything going on the ground, and it’s no wonder they struggled to move the ball.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, I don’t believe you can say salary dump and Yankees in the same sentence
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you just did!
: )
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn. here’s one: can you end a sentence using the word “the”?
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol…you just did!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nicely played. I saw that somewhere and it took the guy 5 minuets to realize that
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“My favorite band is The The.”
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 22, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know.
Dude works for New York Daily News, so… I was just repeating the tweet.
Salary dump deal, though, to me means someone is dumping salary. Doesn’t matter who.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know… but i’ve been following him.. he seems to be waiting for this so he can leave and watching the MNF game while waiting
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just read the tweet…I still don’t see how he can draw that conclusion.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lowe
is a salary dump deal.
It has been reported this isn’t one.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lowe is only a salary dump if we don’t get anything of value in return. If another team can afford Lowe’s salary and is in need of him, they will be forced to give us more of what we want.
It isn’t like the other team has Wren by the balls here.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to argue
but it is common knowledge that we want to dump Lowe for salary considerations.
So any deal involving Lowe is a salary dump deal.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not really
there are reports out saying how wren is more open to eating salary in order to get a better return.
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, if the Angels and Yankees are both inquiring about Lowe (not a far-fetched possibility) and a bidding war ensues, it is still a salary dump?
I disagree.
We may be moving him to get some salary relief, but if we get a good return, it cannot be considered a salary dump.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If two hobos are fighting over a wet cardboard box, does it still make it not trash?
Any deal involving Lowe is a salary dump just like a wet cardboard box is trash… unless we take on 45+ million
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's kind of a salary dump even if we get a piece like Swisher back.
I forget what the number we’ve decided we’d save in that exchange was, but it’s close to $10 mil next year. For a team claiming to cut back on payroll, that’s quite the bonus commitment.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s officially 1 hour late on dispelling the Big Z rumor. Maybe it still is Lowe
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's about what it seemed like to me.
But he also didn’t seem particularly credible.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that wouldnt eliminate Lowe
a salary dump is when we trade Lowe and get a C level prospect back.
Im pretty sure Wren is trying to get Swisher
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly…if Atlanta is even involved in this deal.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if it isn't Lowe
It could be JV. Would Yanks do Swisher for JV?
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV would might block that. don’t think he wants to go back to NY
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if he can. i’m to crammed with tests to remember if he has a no trade clause just to the west
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wren should block that.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
i want swisher but not at the cost of Vazquez. I would do Lowe and a pitching prospect but not Javy
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not, I wonder
One year of Javier Vazquez for three years of Nick Swisher’s peak seems like a really good deal.
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um
Swisher is only under contract 2 yrs i believe.
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry about that
thought it was one plus the option.
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees don’t want Javy again. He didn’t do too well there.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and it would be worse
that park is a HR haven for LH batters and him being a fly ball pitcher . . . not looking good
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JV 2.0?
Doubt they’d want him again…
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If there's $10 mil difference in salaries...
Something’s getting dumped.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably just a bunch of BS
carry on.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ouch, I just burned my hand on that hot stove...
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 21, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
knuck, knuck, knuck
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2mqqCMu-LM
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You got me.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But Wait!
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn you…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do they make it last?
Is it just on a loop?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good news: The Mets are trying to bring back Pedro!
Imagine that…another hispanic signing my Omar Minaya…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bwahahaha. If that happens were gonna have some fun here in NY
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hispanics are signing Omar?
Where??
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only the deaf ones
See what I did there?
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that sign something to do with the middle finger?
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know Jason Bay was Hispanic until the Mets started courting him.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta misspell "Canadian" pretty bad to make him seem Dominican.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
*by
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shhhhh!!
Aren’t you in the military?
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Morrow traded to Blue Jays
for B. League and Prospect.
Interesting. I have a feeling in about 2 yrs the Blue Jays are going to have one of the best young rotations in baseball. aside from the Braves of course lol
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
reply fail
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
reply fail
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
reply...fail?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.. why not? Reply fail.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow. source? I like Morrow. Kinda wish we had him
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KROS on twitter
also just been posted on MLBTR
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if we've clarified since...
But as of lately, the trade hasn’t been mentioned to Morrow.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im impatient, i hate waiting!! say what team is negotiating with the yankees!
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m tired and have a test. Lets get moving!
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for gods sake I hate thiiiisss!…
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, imagine pre-internet. dark ages-type shit.
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when you had to wait for a newspaper! my god…
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But at least then, we weren’t teased with twitter posts!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Twitter-tease is what we used to call ’em……yeahhhhh. Bastards…”
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha very nice
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
picture an old man saying it, tho. even funnier.
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet it's Gil Meche.
Somebody check to see if the Yankees have any former Braves on thier roster. If so then yeah it’s Meche.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what makes you say that?
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because
The Royals are trying to add more ex-Braves.
by Bronn on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so how does that have to do with the Yankees?
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Meche is probably the best pitcher on the trade market.
And it’s a salary dump for the Royals.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, now i see. gotcha. i feel stupid
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is?
Would you really say he was better than Lowe last year?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
I heard today they offered Corky Miller and Greg Norton big contracts.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Langerhans too
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(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have recently offered Dan Kolb the most lucrative contract in team history.
Man, they seem to be really serious about this year.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wickman and Glavine are coming out of retirement!
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
…….in my dreams. ; )P
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 21, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We can rule the Mets out
as far as I know, neither of them are Hispanic.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt be surprised
for them to sign KJ
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am still holding out hope that we will bring him back…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is still around after we trade a pitcher, I honestly think we will for about 2.2 million
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got at least one standing offer...
D-Backs at $2 mil.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn’t be surprised if anyone did. I really like the guy. he’s a solid player
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt he signs with Royals.
He would actually make a bit of sense for them, though.
by GouldisGold on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we are just guessing
I’m going with Josh Johnson, fucking Yankees
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for who?
that would be their entire farm system
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for Swisher, like 5 prospects
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they don’t really have prospects. It would be swish and cash
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like 15 million?
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 21, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe. no idea. probably in the range of 10-12
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the prospect known as Johnny
CASH.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson and Uggla for Swisher and Cano and 10 million??
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in all seriousness
would have to be Montero and Hughes as a starting point
by drumzalicious on Dec 21, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
montero is untouchable. they need backup for jorge
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they will get a catcher from somewhere. I wouldnt be surprised if they actually get Johnson at the deadline. By that time we will know if Mauer has signed an extension. If he did they look for them to trade Montero for Johnson and then give Mauer a crazy contract
by drumzalicious on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but Mauer wants to stay in MIN so i think he’d take a discount
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you know
there are many players that have wanted to stay somewhere and didnt want to take to much of a discount.
apparently Cliff Lee wanted to stay in Phillly and went from demanding 22 mil a year to 21 mil a year lol
by drumzalicious on Dec 22, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then he really didn’t want to be there
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im just saying
a lot of players say that then you know run off to Yankee world.
by drumzalicious on Dec 22, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i know….
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hope
i wake up tomorrow and i find out Lowe has been traded i really dont care for what Swisher, Rivera, prospects etc.
by Erihury on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope I wake up with a naked Salma Hayek...
Would like that much better than Lowe being traded… :)
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah
Penelope Cruz. FTW
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barf.
Give me Marissa Miller any day.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you. you need actual beauty to get somewhere around here. not just implants
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides, Kloe is the hottest sister of the 3…and she got knocked up!
BTW, how horrible of a mom do they have???
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heard
stores of Butt Implants but i doubt it
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not at all
thats all natural and wonderful
by drumzalicious on Dec 22, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
It is where all the crabs live.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You think she's up that high?
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not really her but all of hollywood combined
by drumzalicious on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but that is true
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
foregin>US
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Salma from Desperado or Eva in Ghost Rider?
I’d have to go Salma.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn
just reminded me of From dusk til Dawn i wanna watch that now
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
humina humina humina
boi-yoi-yoing
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 22, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you guys have surprisingly good taste.
Give me Mary Louise Parker.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 22, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And she can sing!
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. Mrs Doubtfire is just coming on…something to do!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mrs. Doubtfire or Betty White?
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Betty White…she is hilarious!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Per DOB
“It would be such a seemingly awkward situation for him to come back now, that you wonder if the Braves might be inclined to a eat a bit more to make a deal happen.”
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Dec 22, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about that…like Gondee said, Lowe just ensured that he is the one traded.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Na,
They’ll send him a fruit tray and everyone will be happy.
Gotta wonder why Javy isn’t busting When’s balls for shopping him…
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where were the fruit trays when we just let Chris Reitsma walk out of our lives?
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eat it!
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 22, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. really they have no replacement for posada
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the Yankees think that way as much as other teams do. They’ll simply buy another catcher.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thing is
next years FA pool doesnt really have any
by drumzalicious on Dec 22, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
moot point
Montero is not sticking behind the plate.
R.I.P Jazz #6
by was385 on Dec 22, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a pretty good deal for Atlanta though – J Johnson is better than what the marlins would be getting back…by a lot!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hypothetically speaking
That deal sucks balls for Florida.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Folks, I’m not saying the Yankees are getting Johnson. But if they want him, you’d think it would take Montero and Hughes/Joba for sure.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bed for me. hope this turns out well
I is for I can't wait for spring to get here- Matty D
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Dec 22, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys, i’m bouncing outta here…movie time with the little lady.
I hope this thing works out well!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 22, 2009 12:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
screw this
going to sleep trade Lowe for anything id take a pack of Camels filtered, Gin and some condoms for Lowe
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
New
and scratch the condoms get an autographed picture of William Shatner we can sell it on ebay for something
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And greatest musician. Hands down. Suck it Lennon.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The more important question is
…extra small or magnum?
by coldriver10 on Dec 22, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
my GF would prefer the her pleasure ones
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh low blow
for that i declare a fatwa on your head infidel
by Erihury on Dec 22, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a fatwa!! On my head!!!
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A marketing ploy, my friend. Don’t buy into it!
by coldriver10 on Dec 22, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got my wad of 100’s and Magnum condoms….I’m ready to bang
Cockchafer
by bpk228480 on Dec 22, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last time we all stayed up til midnight or so
we found out we were trading Raffy for Jesse Chavez.
Lets all pray to Albert Pujols and Jason Heyward that we have different fortunes this time around.
In Frank Wren I trust.
by mvhsbball on Dec 22, 2009 1:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d be ok with Lowe for Bobby Witt
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I was a kid
I collected baseball cards. Bobby Witt was a running joke of ours. When someone wanted to trade bad cards, we’d always say “I wouldn’t trade that for Bobby Freaking Witt.”
I guess it doesn’t translate 15 years later.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Dec 22, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotcha
His rookie card is probably worth more if you use it to start a fire in your wood stove.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees fans
really are some of the stupidest people in the country. Go check their SBN blog and check the thread for who the pitcher is.
Someone posted they got Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw for Cano and Joba…and they thought he was serious. FML.
In Frank Wren I trust.
by mvhsbball on Dec 22, 2009 1:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude, it's Yankees fans
They’re too busy watching Entourage, shining their K-Swiss’s and talking about how Jeetah should run for Governor to research the quarter billion dollars their team is about to drop.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 22, 2009 4:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wren is not a genius...
I am so sick of people on here drinking the Wren-Kool-Aid. Our GM is now good old Johnny, he has made mistakes, and as a fan I have a right to criticize them. Please don’t flame everyone on here who has an opinion about Wren where Wren != God. Wren has kinda screwed us on a few things, wake up Braves fans………
by fizzbot on Dec 22, 2009 8:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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