Oh the weather outside is frightful...
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 12:31 AM EST
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Printand our old rosterbation thread is no longer delightful. And since we've got no place to go, let us rosterbate, let us rosterbate, let us rosterbate!
Alright, so maybe my calling in life isn't song writing (if you can even call it that), but I do know when it's time for something new.
We can really fill up a rosterbation thread. And it's definately time for a new one. The "old" one from a week ago has broken 300+ comments and the hot stove is only going to heat up with all the arbitration offerings and trade talks. A month and a half into the off-season, the Braves still have a ton of questions remaining:
Do we make a trade for the "impact bat"?
Which of our starters do we trade?
Do we invest all our money in one reliever, like the Muts did? Or do we invest money in multiple low-risk/high-reward veterans, like the Red Sox did?
Who mans 1B for us in 2010?
And so on and so forth. There's a ton of stuff worth discussing.
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it seems like there’s a bunch of debate over the bullpen. I’d love to sign Billy Wagner. He’s a proven veteran who was filthy at the end of the season.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
Honestly, I don't know
I go back and forth on this every day. Part of me wants to get an established 1B for the next few years and part of me wants to get a 1year rental player to bridge us to Freddie Freeman.
I do know I want Mike Cameron tho. He seems perfect for the Braves.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 10:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I still think Rochey is our best option. And this is very encouraging to me (from DOB’s article in today’s AJC):
Unlike years ago, teams are permitted to continue negotiating with free agents after not offering them arbitration. The drawback to not offering arbitration: It eliminates any compensatory draft pick or picks a team would get if it loses a classified free agent.
“We no longer have to offer arbitration to continue to negotiate,” Wren said, “so as we continue to put our team together over the next few weeks, we’ll see how that [first-base] market develops. Right now we don’t have enough information to make us feel comfortable offering arbitration.”
This is also contradictory of a post last night in the front page thread (I believe by cb) saying that since teams are prohibited from negotiating with or re-signing their own FAs until May 1, absent an arbitration offer, Rochey will almost certainly not be with the Braves next season.
That means we are still talking to him then…good!
As far as FAs go, he is top of my list. However, if Wren is talking to someone about a trade (possibly the Brewers or the Padres, please?) for 1B, he is right to wait on the arbitratio offer.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, glad you found something concrete on it. It was pointed out that I was incorrect and I immediately remembered this. Glad it was cleared up.
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5th element every time
Mila Jovovich….
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously. I’m sure Sly looked good naked, but not like her. Wowza.
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But that scene working out in Siberia...
and the music, it’s so inspiring.
Honestly watched pieces the other day (can’t tolerate it in whole), it has to be one of the best bad movies of all time. 5 minute spurt, followed by Survivor song montage, with another 5 minute scene followed by more montage, then of course that climactic fight between the scrappy American and the big bad chemically enhanced Soviet.
I am really starting to think that Wren will get a 1B through a trade...
I know that there is still a chance that we re-sign LaRoche. But Wren has mentioned more than once that they would really like to add a bat through the trade market. It’s too early in the morning for me to speculate on WHO that would be. But I think our 1B next year is definitely coming from a big trade. There are plenty of guys on the market that could fill the OF need. Not to mention that need isn’t as big. I personally hope for Cameron. But the 1B issue will need special attention. I think we may be waiting a while to find out who it will be. Of course FW usually does thigs very quick so we may have our new 1B by Dec. 10.
Okay, since this is rosterbation...
…what first baseman are available for trade and are they any good? I really haven’t thought much about it.
Reportedly
Both Adrian Gonzalez and Miguel Cabrera might be available. Both are very good, and both are not likely headed to Atlanta if they are indeed available.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
both would be amazing, but they would destroy our farm system.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cabrera's contract makes him unattainable...
…if we won’t offer arbitration to LaRoche, we won’t take that monster of a deal. AGonzalez is very tempting, but I get the feeling that it won’t happen because they will (rightfully) want more than we are (rightfully) willing to give up. I initially harbored hope that we could cobble together a pacakage for him of Freeman, Teheran, and Schafer, but as someone else pointed out in an earlier thread they will probably insist on Heyward or Hanson and that will be a wrap.
What about D.Lee?
I’ve heard him mentioned. He’s got one more year on his contract so he wouldn’t block Freeman. He’s great defensively and he can put up big numbers with the bat. Plus you might be able to get him for slightly less because he only has this season left.
Thats a move I could get behind, assuming the price wasnt too high. Not sure how the Cubbies view Fox though. Do they trust him enough to play everyday? His Def is pretty awful.
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Dec 2, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I hadn't heard him mentioned
but I wouldn’t mind picking him up either for the right price. It is notable that the Cubs are looking for starting pitching, though I have no idea where they are financially since being sold.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know that it was from a significant source...
and it could have just come from random bloggers firing names out there. But even that scenario seems to make it more likely just because Wren seems adamant about keeping possible targets and discussions with teams quiet. So I am trying to think of guys that aren’t the obvious.
And as much as I want to be in the know
I do appreciate that FW does that.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Great Idea
But I think it would depend if the braves could dump Lowe’s contract. I believe Lee is a 13 million plus guy so if were willing to pay that money then why wouldn’t we offer Lrche arbitration?
Cubs are looking to dump Zambrano’s contract so I don’t see them being interested in Lowe.
I also think that Fox is slated for the OF duties next year so we would have to offer players that either fill OF or the 1b with the departure of Lee. Church comes to mind as a piece of the puzzle but I don’t see us matching up with the cubs.
However, I still love just the idea of him in the lineup next year.
They are looking to deal.
MLBTR talked with Cubs Gm Jim Hendry:
“Hendry opines that “it’ll be a good offseason of trades” and that plenty will be made throughout the winter."
Who knows what they have in mind but it looks like they are more than willing to make some moves.
How about if they throw in Milton Bradley as well
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Meh
I’m torn on that one. Yeah, he isn’t the most upstanding character,but neither was Gary Sheffield. And furthermore, Bradley gets on base, and probably can still hit like crazy… And I am not so concerned with injuries because once he gets injured it will be time to give Heyward his shot.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
How many times did Sheffield...
miss half a season due to his “character”? As bad as he was, no one ever said “just go away” like they have to Bradley. Other than with Ron Washington, he’s guaranteed to go ape and miss a month or more due to insanity.
Yeah, I guess
I dunno, he was ok with the Rangers and Padres. And that crazy bat shit hissy fit he threw where he screwed up his knee, as stupid as it was, just shows that he does care about the game. I think that there is enough Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones character to keep him in line, and we Braves fans aren’t like Cubbies fans (IE, rabid, hopeless, shameless, etcc).
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I would take that
Somehow I thought Konerko was older, but he will work. His slugging fall pretty significantly outside of Chicago though… that is a red flag.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ok how about this. Sign Felipe Lopez to play second and bat lead off. Trade for Nick Swisher. Prado at first. Swisher isn’t necessarily a big bat, but I feel like he works in our lineup. In this scenario we don’t have to dump Lowe’s salary.
1. Lopez S
2. Prado R
3. Chipper S
4. Swisher S
5. McCann L
6. Escobar R
7. McClouth L
8. Diaz R
Felipe Lopez has a career OBP...
…of .338. I don’t think we want that at the top of our line-up. Yes, he had a great year last year and even managed a very good OBP (.383), but at age 29, that seems more like career year than breakout. And I am not sure why we would want to waste Prado at first when he works at second, that seems like we are losing value.
i dont think lopez is the answer…but i dont understand how we would lose value by moving prado to first…lopez is a better second baseman than prado, and prado is a better first baseman than second baseman
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You lose value...
…because second base is a more valuable position defensively. If you have the same hitter with two positions to play, he is more valuable at the tougher position unless his defense there is significantly worse than his defense at the easier position. My point is that signing Felipe Lopez to play second and moving Prado to first is a slight defensive upgrade along with signing Felipe Lopez to play first. I think we could get much better bats than Felipe Lopez at less cost to play first base.
i dont want a career .245 hitter batting 4th for us who strikes out alot, maybe if he hit 40 homers a year, but he couldn’t even hit 30 in the hitter friendly yankee stadium, thats not an upgrade at all over laroche hitting 4th…not to mention the defense..
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Well LaRoche isn’t a switch hitter so him then McCann is two lefties in a row and for some reason I think he hates hitting fourth. So I doubt that LaRoche would even consider it. Not to mention that in this scenario LaRoche couldn’t even be considered because we have to move Prado to first or that he would block Freddie Freeman.
LaRoche would actually have to hit 4th to make that comparrisson though…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
exactly, so why would the braves pick up swisher to be our big bat if we had a guy with just as much power and better numbers in laroche and didnt hit him 4th
"Im a fullonrapist, I do men, women, autistic kids, children, the elderly." -Charlie Kelly
I agree. Swisher I do not want.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
depends, like a Cameron, Dye, Nady...
and the complementary hitter, I like Swisher fine. As the answer to our big bat need of a cleanup hitter? Of course not.
We're not going to get the big bat
people say we need to hit clean-up. The only one with a salary we could afford who might possibly be available is Adrian Gonzalez and the Padres will probably ask for too much. Complimentary hitters are all were are going to get. (I hope I am wrong here, but I don’t see it.) If you want a reasonably priced big bat to hit clean up, you have to develop one.
Too early to be so pessimistic.
A big trade – say 8 or 10 players and 3 teams – could be in the works for all us stupid bloggers know.
It’s never too early for him to be pessimistic. He’s already looked into his crystal ball and decided how poor the entire offseason is going to turn out.
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On the contrary.
I think our team will be great with minor tweaks. Sign Cameron, sign a 1B (LaRoche, Delgado, etc.), trade Lowe for a B-prospect, sign a cheap bullpen arm (Calero!), and I consider our offseason to be a rousing success. The hitting will be better, the fielding will be much better, and the pitching will stay great. I’ll happily take my chances with that team.
We’re also not going to get 1st round pick for our type A or get an impact bat, right?
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No, I doubt we get the first round pick
But that’s life. We should get two second rounders and two supplementals. And no, I don’t think we will get the “impact bat” but I think we will be fine without it.
Delgado, Glaus, among others...
they aren’t Prince Fielder, Ryan Howard, Tex, but when healthy they have proven worthy of hitting cleanup, especially with quality like McCann/Escobar hitting 5th and 6th.
Sarah Marshall FTW
Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.
great movie.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 2:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know if I’d go THAT far…it was ok.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever. That’s the best comedy that’s come out in many, many years and one of the best movies overall.
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That may be a bit Chip-ish,...
but agreed on that is a surprisingly funny movie. if only there weren’t so many shots of his junk. There are multiple better choices in that movie for multiple scenes of full frontal.
it was a very funny movie
I was pretty surprised myself at how funny it was. Maybe I shouldn’t have been though, it has the guy from How I Met your Mother (and unfortunately his junk, but the dudity is more of a negative for us guys), Paul Rudd, The guy from 30 Rock…
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
The best comedy is undeniably the Hangover.
I love the crew in Sarah Marshall, but that movie just didn’t do it for me for some reason…I didn’t dislike it and it wasn’t horrible, but it wasn’t the greatest either.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
the hangover
was pretty damn awesome. Zak and Mirri was also funny, if not significantly more crude. I Love you Man and Role Modely were pretty great too.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
You liked Zak and Mirri?
I thought it was so stupid. I watched about half of it and left the theater to go watch something else
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
I could finish it, but Kevin Smith definitely lost whatever he had.
The Fleshlight jokes were great though.
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Meh
I liked it enough, though I think Kevin Smith is definitely capable of better. Just keeping along that comedy area…
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
The Hangover is incredibly funny, but was it really a movie? Essentially, it was just a collection of skits with a loose story connecting them, which is fine, and it’s probably funnier than Sarah Marshall, but Sarah Marshall was actually a movie with a story and human emotions and conflicts and relationships tied into the comedy, which, at least to me, will always make it infinitely better.
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Fair enough. The Hangover is the only movie in which I did not stop laughing for longer than 1 minute – literally.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
“Oh wait, I can’t next week, the Jonas Brothers are in town.
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LOL!
I don’t know why, but the song that Andy Bernard sings (What to tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze) cracks me up every time.
That and the whole idea of not being able to remember wtf happend or how just strikes a tone with me…it’s the whole “I can relate” thing.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I ever stopped laughing during the first hour of Borat. Too bad the last 30 minutes or so weren’t that great.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
That is another one where I laughed a ton…But, I was a fan of the Ali G show too, so that helps.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 2, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I love that movie
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
I liked it ok the first time I saw Borat
and haven’t been able to watch it since.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
You should see the new Bruno movie...
also funny as hell. A little more male nudity, but at the point that it came up I was laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes anyway.
The Hangover was great...
… but it’s gotta be a close second to Superbad, and maybe even third behind Wedding Crashers.
To Hell With Georgia!
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“Do you want my hands?”
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“Do you want my mouth?”
“No..well, maybe you could try that for a while.”
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Braves after Kameron Loe
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/pirates-dodgers-braves-as-after-kameron-loe.html
Who?
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
No. Thanks.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
It’d just be for depth and to maybe compete with Abreu/Acosta/Valdez/Proctor in ST. Wouldn’t hurt anything.
Here is my plan.
-re-sign LaRoche to a 2-year deal, if he prefers 2 years
-sign Eric Hinske to beef up the bench
-sign Scott Eyre to be the situational lefty
-sign a dependable righty reliever, like, say, Brandon Lyon or Rafael Betancourt
-trade for Jack Cust
We probably don’t have the money to do all that stuff, but that would make us a playoff team.
I’d rather trade for a righty reliever. Both of those guys will cost us another draft pick.
Michael Wuertz.
Michael Wuertz.
Michael Wuertz.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Not a bad idea.
Maybe a trade with the A’s involving both Wuertz and Cust is in the works?
Of course, the A’s raped us the last time we traded with them.
Yeah, who would want to trade with the A’s? They totally destroyed us on the Tim Hudson for Charles Thomas, Dan Meyer and Juan Cruz deal.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 2, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he means the Kotsay/Devine deal.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
Devine needs to actually stay healthy for a year...
before that one gets ugly. As of now, it’s bad, but nothing detrimental. Devine has been pretty good, when he isn’t on the disabled list.
Pretty good?
That trade will go down as an epic fail. He posted a 0.59 ERA in ‘08. That’s right, 0.59. The lowest in history for a pitcher. How the hell is he just “pretty good?”
Oh and Kotsay became Luis Sumoza...
in addition to spending about as much time on our active roster as Devine has on theirs.
Yeah, in 08…then he missed all of 09…
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It is way too early
to call that trade an epic fail. Devine may never be effective again, and I highly doubt he will ever be anywhere near .59 ERA effective for any truly significant length of time.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 2, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
But would he have been even "pretty good" in Atl?
You gotta admit, after his start for the Braves, if he might have been best off in another area code. As good as he was for the A’s (and I applaud him for that), I can’t even imagine a more disasterous start than what he had in Atlanta. Yeah, maybe Beane took advantage, but it’s hard to figure if would have been effective without the scenery change.
Yeah, he will.
Due to that, I think he signs by Monday or accepts.
Why would we want Jack Cust?
Are we moving to the AL and getting a DH slot?
He's best suited for DH
but he can play left field for us, and maybe move Diaz to right until Heyward is ready. Cust’s lack of defense is acceptable when he consistantly hits 25 HR’s and draws around 100 walks a year.
He is a horrific fielder...
…probably about Garrett Anderson’s level. True, his hitting would make him an upgrade over GA, but I think we can do better than that.
How about
Troy Glaus for 1st? Could be a low risk, very high reward signing.
by heap16 on Dec 3, 2009 9:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
he could also be a huge bust
leaving the Braves with no options at 1B. i usually like low risk/high reward guys — especially pitchers — but i’d prefer to not take that risk with our starting 1B.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 3, 2009 11:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you balance it with signing Jermaine Dye...
to play 1B or LF? I like the idea of Glaus a lot. When healthy, he’s a proven slugger and fine glove man. He was healthy enough to make the Cardinals post season roster and get some game time down the stretch, so I’d assume he’ll be healthy enough by spring training to warrant everyday play. The question with him, like Wagner though, isn’t if he can be healthy at the start of spring training or opening day, it’s can they remain healthy throughout the season.
I think Glaus is an interesting risk...
…but definitely better than Dye. I’d still probably prefer something better than both of them, but if the choice was Glaus or Dye, I would certainly take Glaus.
I think Delgado
is a higher upside play for the same money as Glaus.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 3, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
doubt he'd be same money...
or if so, that means he’s got serious health issues which Glaus’ late season appearance makes me think he’s much better in that regard.
He lost an entire season last year
so he shouldn’t cost that much more…
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Is anyone else scratching their head as to why the Phillies signed Polanco. Not saying the guys a bad player or anything but their moving him to 3B and his bat is weak for that position. They signed him for 3 years $18M. I thought Beltre would have been a better signing for them.
It does seem dumb. I thought signing Ibanez for that long and that much money was dumb too and that worked out for them…for half a year…
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its a bummer
Polanco used to be one of my favorite players…not anymore tho.
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 3, 2009 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
just be happy, if they got beltre in that ballpark, you’re looking at a huge uptake in his numbers to go along with being a top 5 defender at the position
by McCann's the Man on Dec 5, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
When do we have to decide on other arb-eligible players...
Diaz, Moylan, and the more questionable Church, KJ, and Boone Logan?
I bet if his name was Henry White he would still be a free agent.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 3, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Omar, you so prejudiced.
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I had a dream Omar Minaya signed a white player…and then I woke up.
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 4, 2009 1:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Goodness, the commentors on MLBTR are morons
The things some of the Braves fans say over there… you have to wonder if they’ve actually watched a game in 5 years.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
I’ve completely stopped looking at the comments. Last year after the Braves gave up on Peavy and the Cubs got into it they started saying that Vitters was a super prospect who alone was better than anything the Braves could offer.
Some guy was yelling for Frank Wren to be fired…and was being serious and tried to back it up with stats. I very, very rarely look at comments, but that guy alone made me forget looking at comments all together.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
you look at MLBTR for the rumors. The comments will infuriate you. I have started commenting on there a little bit again (with the same sig as I have here), and I have decided to quit (again).
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 4, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I think ESPN, AJC.com and Atlantabraves.com have much much dumber posters.
You run into an occasional intelligent one or two, but gosh, just reading the majority of the comments on any of those sites make me feel 10 IQ points dumber.
For exhibit A, I give you this little nugget from the ESPN.com story about us signing Saito:
I don’t get it. We had Soriano and Gonzo and we decided to get alot older
First off, no we did not have Soriano and Gonzo – they are Free Agents that must be negotiated with. Both are looking for big paydays and multi-year contracts. Dolt.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Should i repost the Braves/Mets player comparisons from last year?
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
Please do! I need a good laugh again!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Did he compare Church to Francoeur?
:)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Got it
no the mets are still better at most positions:
Schnider/Mcccan – tie (schnider has better d)
Kotch / Delgao – 38 hrs from carlos
Castillo/Johnson – castillo can return to a .300 hitter but jonson barely wins
wright/jones – no contest, wright
reyes/who??? – reyes wins, best ss in the majors
tatis/diaz – tatis raked last year
beltran/anderson – beltran is an all-star
francouer/church – church raked before his concusion he will rebond
santana/lowe – santana is the best sp in the majors
perez/hudson – perez has better potential plus hudson was hurt last yr
pelfrey/jurgens – jurgens gives up 2 many hits
maine/vazquez – vazquez wins barely cuz he had a good 07 but maine has more potential
redding/campillo – redding through more innings, campillo would have a 500 era if he starts again ppl will figur ehim out
k-rod had the most svs, he is the best lcoser in baseball, no contest
Posted by: metsin08 | February 18, 2009 at 09:51 PM
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
Ah…thank you!
We should look this guy up and ask him how this list worked out for him…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
What a fucking joke.
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
This one is still better
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION FROM THE LOTS TO THE GAME…
WITH THE ECO- BEING THE WAY THAT IT IS WE WOULD THINK & HOPE THE LEAGUE WOULD SO SOME FAN APPREICATION BY AT LEAST PROVIDING TRANSPORT TO THE GAME… ME AND 20 OTHER GUYS HAVE TO PARK AMOST 5 BLOCKS TO GET TO A GAME….
AND THIS YEAR SUMMER SUPPOSE TO BE HOTTER THAN LAST YEAR, AND WE ALL NOW WHAT THAT’S GOING TO FEEL LIKE… ESPECIALLY WITH THE HUMIDITY IN GEORGIA… TALK ABOUT EMPTY SEATS….
SO HOW ABOUT IT…. ONE FOR THE FANS!!!
Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.
+1
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Classic.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
"ME AND 20 OTHER GUYS"
Always busts me up. Probably my favorite TC post ever.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
I don’t know…fatazfoot had some gems…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’m assuming he hasn’t been heard from since I was gone?
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think he actually made an appearance…
http://www.talkingchop.com/2009/9/13/1028262/is-the-season-over-for-jason#21207300
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Love it.
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
and almost 5 whole blocks?
what is that, maybe half a mile? Or we really that damn lazy. I really believe humans are on a path towards those in Wall-E.
haha
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I still love the Schneider vs. McCann part. Cracks me up just thinking about it.
7/10/09-A New Dawn.
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Dec 4, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think a good OF option would be Corey Patterson. He’d be great in CF because he’s, like, super fast and that very same fastness would be perfect at the top of our lineup.
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
Tee-hee.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
sick burn
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
How much is Chone Figgins gonna cost?...
Could play LF until one of the kids is ready, then supplant Prado at 2nd or Chipper at 3rd if he goes down.
MLBTR reported the Mariners were after him at 4 years $30M+. If you can get him for under $10M a season it seems like a good deal to me.
ESPN reported the same.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
MLBTR has some nice nuggets today (as they do every day)....
I see last night that Oakland acquired Jake Fox from the Cubs, some fantasy folks take note because he can flat rake as their DH.
Also, from ESPN’s Olney they have “for DeRosa, it’s a three-year deal for something in the range of $9 million a year.” which would probably put us out of the mix and in my eyes be a HUGE price tag that he just isn’t worth.
The Nats may be interested in our old friend Smoltzie.
And also echo that "SI’s Jon Heyman tweets that Nick Johnson is “drawing interest from the Giants, maybe Braves, and a half-dozen more.”"
The move for the A’s doesn’t really make sense. Cust is already the DH and Fox isn’t good at defense. They also took on Miles who is overpayed and coming off a terrible season. Just another reason why Beane is an overrated GM.
You can non tender Cust...
and replace him with cheaper and a better average without losing the slugging through Fox.
But the Cubs are paying some of Miles' salary
and he could bounce back. It was a typical buy-low move for Beane, and may just pay off (again).
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 4, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Palm Beach Post says:
Uggla to be traded at winter meetings
Wonder is he could play 1B.
The only way I could see it working for us (and I have no idea who we would trade for him, but that is not really important for this post) is we slide Prado over to 1B and have Uggla stay at 2B. It would be a defensive upgrade at 2B and we don’t lose much defensive value at 1B. We lose offensive power at 1B, but upgrade significantly at 2B. IMO, it would make the risk-reward a wash.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 4, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
3 team trade where we move Lowe...
with another team sending prospects to Florida (and maybe we throw in a mid level prospect too)
Interesting idea…
"The Free Willy song was good." ~ The Surgeon
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 4, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Who is a more affordable, durable, consistent RH big bat?
Last year, his first arbitration year, he earned $5.35M. He’s 29, plays every day and in 4 full years of service (617 games) has hit 121 HRs and posted a solid production line of .257 /.344 /.482.
BTW – defensively, ever career inning has been at 2B.
Not sure if he would improve the defense.
He’s pretty ugly at 2B by my recollection and fangraphs metric. Not that Prado is great either, but I don’t think Uggla a particular upgrade. If we get Uggla, I don’t think it matters much who plays first and who plays second.
Report on XM Radio - Marlon Byrd
“Braves have interest in Marlon Byrd… that according to his agent…”
Here’s the research: Type B free agent (Texas). Made $3.060 mill in 2009. Was offered arbitration. Age 32, Bats/Throws R. LF/CF.
SPLITS G—AB—R—H-2B-3B-HR-RBI-BB-SO-SB-CS-AVG-OBP-SLG-OPS
Season 146 547 66 155 43 2 20 89 32 98 8 4 .283 .329 .479 .808
Career .279 hitter w/.762 OPS. Better vs. Rightys (.300 vs. .244). All right… have at it.
Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
fuck no.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 5, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
"according to his agent"...
please tell me that’s just trying to show he’s got widespread interest and just an agent running their mouth.
Maybe that's a good sign
If his agent is talking up how interested we are, I wouldn’t think that a deal is in place already. No need to talk up the interest to get others to offer more if the deal was imminent.
I have no problem if we sign him cheaply...
…and have him as a starter until Heyward comes up and then a fourth outfielder type. Given the money he will command, however, I doubt that is the case. If we sign him as a main OF type for way to much money, I agree with the majority—-NOOOOOOO
Not sure how rosterbatory this is, but ...
wonder how our minors look next year. With all the young talent around, I think it’ll be real interesting to see how guys do this spring, and ultimately where they wind up be it Rome, Myrtle, Mississippi, or Gwinnett (for guys like Freeman, Hicks, and some of the Ps).
to elaborate....
(hit post to quick, damn the no edit option)
But we had a LOT of talent in rookie ball last year, some at advanced ages for that level (RSF, several of the Danville arms), and a lot of talented young arms across rookie, A, A+, and AA. I’m very curious to see where guys like the Danville arms Crim, Oberholtzer, Masters, Hale, Rasmus, Teheran, and then Lopez and others, begin next year.
Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Braves have interest in Mark DeRosa. i really don’t take to much from this because every offensive free agent that isn’t a catcher or Bay or Holliday is being linked to us.
I would rather the Braves stayed away from DeRosa. I read about a week ago that he was asking for 3 years $27M. He’s a decent player but he’s a starting utility player. He’s only played over 100 games at 1 position once in his career and it was last year when he played 105 games at 3B. For some reason that just bothers me. I think there would be better options available for us either through trade or free agency that would be cheaper.
Also don't think his bat is worth $9m per...
it’s solid, but he’s not gonna hit above .275, or have more than 25 HRs. Solid, but nothing to commit that much for that long.
Jerry Crasnick is reporting that Soriano may accept arbitration. It was earlier reported that Soriano could get roughly $8M through arb.
This could be very bad for us if he accepts. I guess we could always trade him to someone that missed on other relievers but getting someone to take an $8M reliever might be tough.
I fanshot it earlier. That really sucks!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 5, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Would the Cardinals do him for Ludwick?? It was rumored they would last season.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 5, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
oh
and cause I know we have such a mature crowd here on TC, by “do him” I mean would the Cardinals trade Ryan Ludwick for Raffy and a prospect. I just re-read my comment and knew I had about 2 seconds before the jokes came flying in
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 5, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Haha…They might, but I don’t think we should be after Ludwick.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Can you trade a player accepting arb?...
Is there not a rule that keeps you from dealing them right off? If not, I’d think we might could get a solid bat for one year of Soriano. That might be more appealing to teams than Soriano on the open market where you’d likely need to commit to multiple years for that injury prone arm.
I just ran the numbers, if payroll is indeed in the 95-100M range, the braves could afford soriano on the one year arb commitment, Mike Cameron at 8M or close to that, and one of LaRoche/Glaus/Delgado provided we can move Lowe w/o eating more than say 3M. Our bench would be pretty bare outside of Ross and Infante, at least until Heyward gets up and pushes Matt to the bench; however, that’d be an incredible starting rotation and pen coupled with an average possibly slightly better offense and strong OF defense. Definitely playoff caliber team and possibly championship contender
by McCann's the Man on Dec 5, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
What kind of special dork makes that post?
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it: https://www.createspace.com/3407939
www.dropoutproductions.com
i do. :)
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINTH!
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
This morning, DOB is reporting that the Braves are considering perhaps a dozen hitters:
Wren said the list of Braves possibilities was closer to a dozen than a few, though he has remained tight-lipped about his team’s specific targets. Most names that have been leaked came from players’ agents or other teams.
The nine names mentioned are: Marlon Byrd, Mike Cameron, Jermaine Dye, Mark DeRosa, Josh Willingham, Conor Jackson, Adam LaRoche, Lyle Overbay and Adrian Gonzalez.
Also, re trade inquiries regarding our excess inventory of starting pitchers:
“It’s about to really heat up,” Wren predicted. “As we get into the Winter Meetings, I think the trade markets are going to pick up again. They kind of died around around the Thanksgiving holiday, and we [were] more focused on [signing Wagner and Saito].”
… the Braves would love to move Derek Lowe or Javier Vazquez for an impact hitter ([Nelson] Cruz?). Otherwise, they might consider guys like [Josh] Willingham (in trade), Jermaine Dye, and Nick Johnson. They could use second baseman Kelly Johnson as trade bait.
why the hell
would a Boston writer write about teams other than the Sox? It’s stupid for him to cover any other teams, because he doesn’t even follow them. That would be like me going over to the Detroit Redwings SBNation site and start talking about who they should trade, who they should bench, etc.
And in regards to DOB, I’ll take one of Adrian Gonzalez with a side of Mike Cameron.
McLouth/Diaz (they would be a fawsome platoon in LF)
Prado
Chipper
Gonzalez
BMac
Esco
Cameron
Heyward
Good lord.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Because I like arguing.....
Why do you have Prado in the two-hole and Escobar sixth? I think Esco is a better hitter, and if nothing else has a higher OBP, which would fit better in the two-hole. There’s also the thought that Prado may not be as good as he’s performed (not that I believe that) and may regress some. So in the scenario you’ve used, I’d rather see:
McLouth
Escobar
Jones
Gonzalez
McCann
Cameron
Heyward
Prado
I guess its just personal preference, but that’s how I’d order the line-up.
I like Esco hitting 6th because he has a bit of power and has been an incredibly clutch player with RISP his whole career. He won’t get many opportunities to knock guys in if he’s hitting 2nd. I’d be fine with Esco hitting 2nd tho…as long as we get a stud hitter or two to hit in the middle of the lineup.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Not to diss you, but the guy has been a sports journalist for major publications* for over 20 years, covers MBL as a whole and has written several books, including “None but the Braves,” regarding the 1995 World Champion Braves. So, perhaps, he has some real qualifications.
- The Boston Globe is one of the top 3 or 5 newspapers in the country.
oh
I didnt know that
Thanks for the heads up
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
How are you planning to get Gonzalez if you don’t want to empty the farm for a rental?
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
DOB said in his article that we weren’t really interested in AGon cause of the major prospects he would require. It was just fun rosterbating on my part. Obviously, I have no clue what it would take to get Gonzo and I wouldn’t do the trade if I was FW unless it was a total steal. I can see what youre saying tho.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Juan Pierre
for Derek Lowe.
MLBTR kinda hinted at it as speculation and that “multiple teams teams are interested in Pierre , and that a 3-team trade is being explored to bring a bad contract starter to the Dodgers.”
Pierre is owed $18.5MM the next 2 season, but played great defense in LF and had 30 steals in limited time while hitting .308/.365/.392
Si or no?
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
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"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 6, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
So.......
do you want him?
/Trying to make a Step Brothers referenc
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks…this prevents me from typing all that out.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not so much in favor of it,...
but not as opposed as others. His salary next year isn’t much, and less than it’s been the last few years or in 2010, and I think it’d be easier to move. He had a good stint when Manny was suspended and he got at bats last year for LA. Give him a strong first half here, where we’ve paid off a chunk of that salary (but MUCH less than we’d be obligated to for Lowe), and we get a guy capable in the leadoff slot like we haven’t had in a long time. Let him play LF and go 1-2 with McLouth at the top of the order. By the time Schafer and Heyward are ready, you can move either him or McLouth for prospects or to fill another hole elsewhere on the roster. Seems like a nice stop gap filler until the two kids are up, and I don’t think his contract would be as unmoveable in June as it has been the last 24 months.
He doesn’t get on base nearly enough and he has absolutely zero power. He has one of the most worthless arms in the majors. Last season he didn’t even steal bases at the appropriate clip.
The fact that you act like him and McLouth are interchangeable in terms of trading one of the two at a later date tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Pierre would be a mistake…simply as that.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I think McLouth would likely bring in a much higher package...
so “interchangeable” would not be an accurate description any more than saying Lowe, Vasquez, and Jurrjens would be interchangeable in a deal. Chances are we could find a trade partner for either of the 3, although the package in return would have a very wide difference.
I get it, he has negatives. But do his negatives outweigh the negatives of Lowe’s deal considering what else we have on the roster, or considering what other teams are willing to offer us for one of our excess starters?
Like I say above, I’m not in favor of the deal, but wouldn’t rule it out without knowing what else we can get in return for a starter (which I admittedly don’t), and considering that lack of knowledge would not be as opposed to it as others. Also comparatively I also seem to think we need an improvement at leadoff hitter more than most, so there is that aspect factored in although I don’t think of Pierre as a premier leadoff hitter (just better, or more natural in that role than McLouth).
I would be willing to accept almost any other package for Lowe than Juan Pierre. You’d be hard pressed to find something I would want less.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
The truth about Juan Pierre is
he was a valuable player last year. He posted an OBP of .365 (sure, he had to to bat .338 to do it), and it wasn’t all that flukey, given that his BABIP was .331 compared to a LD% of 24.2.
He’s also above average in left field, though he can’t play center anymore and his arm doesn’t play out in RF. But he really did contribute quite a lot for a fourth outfielder last year.
Now, it’s only one year, and he comes with a $9 million price tag, but he’s not the horror show that Francoeur or GA was last year. While it’s not really a good decision, Braves could do worse.
The last time he had an OBP over .331 was 2004 (in which coincidentally he also had his BABIP way above his career average). I’m not buying that his 2009 batting line wasn’t a fluke, especially when he had a nearly identical LD% the year before and came out with a .327 OBP.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
.331 OBP
Still better than FYF and FUGA.
We broke camp last year with much worse starting corner OFs. Again, not advocating it, but we could (and have) done worse.
Hahaha, who isn’t better than FYF and FUGA in OBP? Of course, both of those guys can hit for a modicum of power, but I understand your point. Just feel like we could find a better return for a Lowe-fronted package of players.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Do bears poop in the woods?
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it: https://www.createspace.com/3407939
www.dropoutproductions.com
YES!
Well, I better charge the phone. I’ll be checking MLBTR all day tomorrow. Fantastic.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
i was thinking the same thing Sanchez
In Frank Wren I trust.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 7, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
This marks the beginning of the most unproductive week of the year for me.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
haha
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, without Garret Anderson
Where are we going to get below replacement level production out of our left spot for only $2.5 million?!
Apparently, Juan Pierre may be providing that for us at $9M…
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 6, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
NO!!!! NO!!!! NO!!!! NO!!!! NO!!!! NO!!!! NO!!! NO!!!! NO!!!!
:)
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
which is over $25m in savings compared to Lowe...
and we actually have more need for a corner OF and leadoff hitter than starter. Give him half a season until Schafer, or Heyward, or both are ready, and if he has a strong first half (with only $8.5m on the books for next year and this year’s $10m cut down to whatever is remaining) I think his deal is much easier to move, or we still have McLouth that is also easily moved.
I’m not saying we should do it, or that it’d be my first pick in a potential deal for Lowe, but I don’t think it’s quite as bad as others obviously.
I can see your point...
…but I’d still rather just dump Lowe’s salary for nothing, if that is possible. I am not sure, but it might be at some point.
But, Lowe is actually good at baseball.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 7, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Anderson, is he going to get a job anywhere this year?
At this point he can pretty much only be a DH, but would anyone take him?
i doubt it. I’d take GA as a bench player tho. He can still turn on any fastball
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Dec 6, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to have him on the bench, but I feel like Bobby would still want to start him.
by blitzerlover on Dec 6, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
For a bench player
give me Ryan Church instead. He’s been a better hitter than GA over the past three years and actually brings good defense.
MLBTR had so much today...
among interest here—The Cards are likely getting Brad Penny, which would mean no Smoltz. Nick Johnson had a list of teams, and none were the Braves, so yeah there. And Geoff Jenkins is making a comeback, as well as working at 1st. I’d love to add him as a minor league free agent and see if he could make the club. Could work as a right handed slugger at either 1B or filling a corner OF spot until JS/JH come up mid year.
Tweeted by Henson of yahoosports:
… the Braves want to deal Lowe or Vazquez, but source says not Kenshin Kawakami (3.86 ERA), who has 2 years and $13.4M left on his deal.
Please not Vazquez
If we want to win in Bobby’s last year, let’s not trade away our (undervalued) best starting pitcher.
This. Unless he brings in Prince Fielder or Ryan Braun, it shouldn’t even be considered.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 7, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Pujols might work too
In Frank Wren I trust.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 7, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Not that I disagree, but there is a real problem that scstrato correctly pointed out the other day. Vazquez is more desireable and more affordable. The market – if any – for Lowe is limited to a few teams that prefer other options, particularly Lackey and Halladay. Teams that fail to land those two might have interest in Lowe, but that may take until late January or early Feb to sort out and by then the window of opportunity to land the urgently needed big bat may be closed.
Any team that wants to trade for Lowe would presumably have the bat that we need in return.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
I just don’t think you can make that presumption. Now, but for the logjam created by Lackey and Halladay, it could be a straight salary dump for a prospect or two, freeing up $15M to play the entire field of available or potentially available hitters. Ultimately, I’d still rather see Wren go that way, which would at least set us up for a possible trade deadline deal.
I am very dubious Vazquez is available except in the case of 4 or 5 hitters in MLB being made available, but they are floating it anyway just in case a play for one of them could somehow open up.
2 hours until the deadline for arbitration
PLEASE DONT ACCEPT RAFFY. Please. Please. Please.
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oh wow, jk, now its about 2 hours. i cant tell time
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 7, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
We all have our fingers crossed...
…but not hearing anything makes me worry that he isn’t either—-and will accept. C’mon, please say no.
agh, the suspense is killing me.
im watching The Departed on FX to pass the time. Its probably one of my top 10 favorite movies of all time
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Someone was arguing
That it won an Oscar as kind of a “Lifetime Achievement Award” for Scorsese.
Just can’t see it-that was a damned fine movie. I can’t even say the story is that much better than most other cop dramas, but its one of the best films of the decade because it draws you in. Great characters, great acting, and it’s overall seamless.
it’s a helluva movie. so was Blood Diamond, which I saw a few weeks ago. Really a strong, powerful movie. Did DiCaprio get nominated for his role in that too?
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I was on a big DiCaprio kick for a while. Departed, Blood Diamond, Body of Lies, The Beach, Basketball Diaries.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
He is an underrated actor...
Catch Me if You Can is another favorite of mine. He’s had an impressive career.
I used to dislike him, but he is really good. The Departed, Blood Diamond, Body of Lies (my personal favorite) are all really great, but I am surprised that nobody has mentioned Gangs of NY yet.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Gangs of NY was really good, but I just didn’t include it in my marathon.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Gangs of NY was good
but the star of that one was Daniel Day-Lewis. He is one of the most under-appreciated actors out there.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 8, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. He was great in There Will Be Blood.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
It was just too long...
3 hours just to see him kill a guy with a bowling pin. Great acting, shitty movie.
Incorrect.
There’s alot more to the movie than the ending. In fact, the ending scene is probably the worst part.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
difference of opinion...
there were several good scenes, but there were quite a few 15-45 minute lulls that I felt dragged on and on and on.
I kind of dislike all of these DiCaprio movies. He’s just not that great and the movies he’s in kind of suck. They just get hyped up cause he’s in them.
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Really?
I mean, what’s Eating Gilbert Grape. Classic. I wasn’t a fan of his titanic era, but his acting has definitely evolved to the point that he is pretty legit, which is of course all my opinion.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 8, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
You’re nuts if you think he isn’t a good actor. Would love to hear who you think is superior so I can make fun of you for your views and ideals.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Saw The Messenger with Ben Foster today, he’s pretty great. Ryan Gosling has done some way better acting than DiCaprio. And, of course, there’s Brad Pitt; just watch The Assassination of Jesse James and tell me he’s not the best actor out there.
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Only thing I’ve seen Ben Foster in is Alpha Dog and that terrible final X-Men movie…wasn’t particularly impressed in either. Not a fan of Ryan Gosling.
I won’t argue with Brad Pitt, he’s great in pretty much everything. Jesse James was a great flick, although I thought Casey Affelck made that movie.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 9, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Even in that crappy movie Alpha Dog Ben Foster was really really good. How can you not like Ryan Gosling? Do his boyish good looks make you uncomfortable?
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There wasn’t anything to his character in Alpha Dog. He just acted like a maniac for the majority of the movie.
What has Gosling done that’s so great? The Notebook wasn’t good, and that movie Lars and the Real Girl was simply bizarre.
Just personal opinion, but I don’t see anything out of either of them.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 9, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
If you haven’t acted you might not understand how tough it actually is to act like a maniac.
Lars and the Real Girl is amazing, so if you don’t dig that we probably won’t find common ground here. He was outstanding in Half Nelson and great in movies like Murder By Numbers, Stay, and Fracture.
Neither have been around as long as the other guys, so they’re just hitting the heights of their careers.
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The old “you haven’t been there so you don’t know what you’re talking about” theory, huh? You sound like John Heyman. My point was that you see very little depth in that character throughout the movie. None really, so I have a hard time of agreeing that he did a tremendous job in the role.
However, that movie Fracture keeps popping up on netflix for me…maybe I’ll check it out and it will change my mind.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 9, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
No, I agree, not much depth in a lot of Foster’s early roles, I’m just saying, playing a convincing psycho is still pretty hard. I’m figuring after The Messenger and being the star of Pandorum he’s gonna get a lot more chances to prove how good he is in major roles.
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Murder By Numbers,...
and definitely Fracture, nice choices.
“I could watch Tony Hopkins read the phone book.”
I’m right, you’re wrong. Lalalalala.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
That was an awesome movie. My friends told me it sucked and was boring, so I stayed away from it for a while, then finally saw it…I was like “did they see the same movie I just saw???”
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
He is great in every movie he makes
Last of the Mohicans, My left foot, the crucible. I have friends who work for him, they say he is a really cool guy too.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been meaning to watch Mohicans again, but haven’t gotten around to it. My Left Foot has been on my netflix queue for months now, because someone (can’t remember who) on this site recommended it.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Kind of like Brad Pitt...
the perception seems to be a pretty face and eye candy for the ladies. But if you look at the bulk of their work, they have some excellent roles, and really have excelled at their craft. Gangs of NY is all right. I thought he and DDL carried the flick that was WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY too drawn out. Kind of like There Will Be Blood. I love Day-Lewis, but damn if that movie wouldn’t be a little better to me if they could cut back 30-45 minutes.
And since it’s about that time, I miss the NFL commercial with the theme from Last of the Mohicans. For violins and stuff, that song can really get me pumped up. Maybe it’s the pairing in my mind with running up a mountain and attacking the man who killed your son with a giant antler sword.
There are a few guys who fit into that mold:
Damon
Pitt
Clooney
Leo
and to some extent, Crow.
I like all of them as actors and most of their movies are excellent.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
And departed had the double dip...
with Damon and Leo. In addition to Nicholson and Baldwin and Marky Mark. That movie is also awesome for the movie quote game, so many amazing one liners, especially for Wahlberg—“I’m the guy who does his job, you must be the other guy”
Yeah, the cast was incredible and the quotes are never ending:
“I’m gonna go have a smoke right now. You want a smoke? You don’t smoke, do ya, right? What are ya, one of those fitness freaks, huh? Go fuck yourself. "
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I actually never got around to finishing the Bourne trilogy so I’ve been watching them bit by bit each night as I fall asleep. Like 30 mins here and there after a long night of COD. I had seen the first one, half of the second one, and none of the third one.
Almost done with the third one now, and I feel like it’s by far the best. Damon rocks shit all throughout every movie.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
what are you, like 60 years old? Going to sleep after 30 minutes of an action movie?
Who changes your depends?
:)
Do you play CoD MW or the original?
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, the reason I fall asleep after 30 mins of an action movie is because it’s normally like 1:30am and I’ve been playing Modern Warfare 2 for 3 hours.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
George Clooney makes nothing but crap.
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Burn After Reading was great
All of the Ocean’s movies are good
I haven’t seen it yet, but Men Who Stare at Goats looks funny too.
I will give you that Three Kings, Sahara and those kinds of movies that he does all suck.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
He is a one trick pony
he can’t do much other than play a rich handsome bachelor type. He does vary it up a little, but generally his characters are all the same.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 8, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
You enjoyed Burn After Reading? I thought it was a major disappointment, especially coming off of such a fantastic movie in No Country.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t watch it in theatres…maybe that is why I liked it more?
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
We’ll just chalk it up to personal opinion, as I didn’t watch it in theaters either.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
We have found our Adam Dunn….
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, please no? I don’t have it in me to argue about that sub-par movie.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Men Who Stare At Goats is boring and bad and if you actually like Burn After Reading (aside from the JK Simons scenes) there’s no hope for you.
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+1...
the primary redeeming part of that movie. Nice snippets of “We have no fucking idea what’s going on”, which pretty much summed up my feelings as well.
Too bad about Goats…I really wanted to see that movie. Big fan of Ewan McGregor.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 9, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
That movie’s great. “Damn, we’re in a tight spot!”
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah…about that…boo.
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+1
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 9, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
What about Batman?!
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
You forgot Titanic.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
No, I didn’t.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Touche’
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
haha oh you mean 3 hours of talking and 20 minutes of action…that movie?
Yeah, no thanks.
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I also have to hate
movies that use sappy love stories to cheapen real tragedies. Pearl Harbor was another one (and otherwise a terrible movie only slightly redeemed by Cuba Gooding Jr).
Reminds me of an ex girlfriend who said I had to watch it with her because the ending was such a surprise. I laughed at her and told her I already knew the surprise…. Pearl Harbor was bombed. That relationship didn’t last long…
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 9, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
oh wait
Just read the Yanks got Granderson. They may be looking to move someone. Money-wise, Swisher and Soriano will most likely match up fairly well (Swisher make $6.75 mil this year). I wouldn’t mind it. I’d like it more than trading for Xavier Nady.
If we could trade for Swisher and sign Cameron I’d be pretty comfortable with our team.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 8, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Or one of them can play LF...
do the Yankees have any OFs currently beside Melky, Gardner, Swisher and now Granderson.
where does Heyward play?
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by Scott Coleman on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
RF in AAA where he should start anyway.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 9, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Jorge Cantu?
Yes, it’s in our division, and no, the Marlins probably wouldn’t take on Vazquez or Lowe’s salary, but his name is thrown around in trade rumors and he could fill the 1B hole and spell Chipper at 3B when needed. Thoughts?
Cubs laugh at that.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Tonight the weather outside is actually frightful. It’s 10 degrees with 8 inches of snow and a 40 mph wind. I am already sick of winter.
Snow? What is that?
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
You must be north like me
This weather sucks.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
It will cool off by tonight, but right now here...
…it is in the upper 60’s, with last night’s overnight low being 60. And, yes, I started in Athens and have more or less continually moved south since then. I think I’ll end up in Charlotte Amile.
Don't take this personally
but screw you. It’s about 35 outside right now with rain that will be freezing rain by 5:00, just in time to cause massive accidents for the ride home…
Though, Jack Dein must be further north because he is seeing shittier weather.
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 9, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I don't take it personally.
I just insist on continuing to move south. Those who live farther north know what they are getting into. Not that we don’t have our share of bad weather here (New Orleans), lol.
Hopefully I will be moving south soon
or west (California). Anywhere where there is sun…
by Andy Braves Fan on Dec 9, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I hear Alaska has a lot of sun this time of year…
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I Rec'd the song
But knew with the bad weather coming through it would promote a little more chat on TC….so, I am wondering too if the trade wire will heat up as well?…GMs with idle time on their hands make for big deals?
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