What if?
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 12, 2009 6:28 PM EST
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What happens if the the Braves get a productive bat for Derek Lowe someone like Cameron and get Garrett Atkins in the free agent since the Rockies non-tendered him today. We can also get Johnny Gomes to serve as a great bench player. Garrett Atkins stats this year were awful but he has a history of good batting performances through seasons. Johnny Gomes is a perfect bench player for us with good power and could fill in if someone needs a rest or someone is injured in the outfield
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He's making fun of you because your post centers on what is commonly referred to as "rosterbation" ...
The general rule around here is that you should only rosterbate in the rosterbation thread.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 12, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do what?
Are we trading Lowe for a free agent? I don’t get what’s going on!!!!!!!
by BravesRaleigh on Dec 12, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We are trading Lowe for a productive bat and then get Garrett Atkins and Johnny Gomes in the free agent market
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 12, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we get a big bat...
Not sure Atkins or Cameron are the answer.
by jvvenez on Dec 14, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it could be him also… but for the bench or starter?
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 12, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know. maybe that wasn’t such a good idea. haha
i need a clever signature
by heap16 on Dec 12, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It could be since Cust bats well vs. RH pitchers and Diaz kills LH pitchers, they could platoon
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 12, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but Cust fields about as well as the sprinkling system thats in the OF already
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Garrett Atkins. Please and thank you
by eaheckman10 on Dec 12, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
amen.
I’ll take one order of Mike Cameron, with a side of Xavier Nady.
In Frank Wren I trust.
by mvhsbball on Dec 12, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Nady but it doesn’t seems too convincing after a surgery
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 12, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as the medical records look good, I’d be willing to take a 1 year risk on him with an option for 2012.
In Frank Wren I trust.
by mvhsbball on Dec 12, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know…Nady really only had one good year, and he played 120 games that season
by acie4mvp on Dec 12, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like a Cameron, too by the way. Felt like I should add this so it doesn’t seem like I’m arguing with you about everything today
by acie4mvp on Dec 12, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're all silly
Barring a big trade splash, which Wren has said is becoming increasingly unlikely, Cameron/LaRoche is the best possible FA outcome. If we shoot for LaRoche and miss, Glaus is the next best option. Nady and Cust are terrible ideas. Period.
by J-Freak on Dec 12, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Delgado would rank...
…above Glaus in that scenario, but otherwise I would agree—-I’d put Glaus third on the first baseman wish-list. I am not as down on Nady, he could be a cheap decent bench-fourth OF option. I agree Cust is fairly poor—-he’s a DH. I also think Atkins is a terrible option; his career numbers outside of Coors are very poor.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since no one has brought it up yet…. I think Johnny Gomes is a wonderful answer to almsot any question involving our OF.
well i actually just looked up his defensive nbrs… so maybe not… but he could be a solid bench bat like hte Reds used him last year.. spot starting and such… the problem is he is right handed and so is Diaz and Diaz is slightly better (but Gomes has better power)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 12, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was brought up briefly in another thread earlier today.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 13, 2009 4:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes can hit.
I love his bat. As you mention, however, his glove is horrible. He will probably look for a DH role in the AL, but there are plenty of those options available.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's another one of those Cust/Branyan/Glaus types
That you’ll be pumped if you get them hitting .250 but they can hit the ball a country mile.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes does hit LHP like blam.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think?
C – Brian McCann – 5.5M
C – David Ross – 1.6M
1B – Aubrey Huff – 8M
1B – Ryan Garko – 446K
2B – Martin Prado – 415K
2B – Omar Infante – 2.225M
SS – Yunel Escobar – 425K
SS – Diory Hernandez – 400K
3B – Chipper Jones – 13M
LF – Matt Diaz – 2.255M
CF – Nate McLouth – 4.5M
RF – Xavier Nady – 6.55M
OF – Brandon Jones – 400K
SP – Tim Hudson – 9M
SP – Jair Jurrjens – 450K
SP – Javier Vazquez – 11.5M
SP – Tommy Hanson – 400K
SP – Kenshin Kawakami – 6.667M
RP – Boone Logan – 428K+
RP – Kris Medlen – 400K
RP – Eric O’Flaherty – 400K
RP – Peter Moylan – 410K+
RP – Todd Redmond – 400K
SU – Takashi Saito – 3.2M
CL – Billy Wagner – 6.75M
Total – 86,016,100
That is with Nady’s, Huff’s and Garko’s contracts from last year. I would figure each would be cheaper this year. either way this is much less than our $96M from last season. Huff would need to sign a 1yr deal, too. I’m not sure if that could happen, maybe if we give him alittle more than he’s offered elsewhere.Trade Lowe for prospects, maybe for some organizational depth up the middle. This would also allow us to use some of that money to pay part of his contract.
Jack Cust is als0 available but expected to resign with the A’s. I don’t know if he would want a role off the bench. I wouldn’t want him starting with his league leading strikeouts the last three years but he made less than $3M last year and for 3 straight years has had over 25 HR.
Gomes would be nice to have off the bench but i think Garko is a better fit. Garko is a career .313 hitter against lefties and a .994 fielding%, both better than Gomes.
I think Heyward should be a summer call-up too. With this roster, it would allow us alot of options to make way for that. Diaz or Nady could be dealt or Huff could be dealt and Nady moved to first.
by JKowalek on Dec 13, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For $15m...
we better get a lot better than Nady, Huff and Garko.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who else would you want to get i think that would be pretty good. Especially since they don’t want or need anything long term with the two positions of need are soon to be filled.
by JKowalek on Dec 13, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1B FA
LaRoche
Nick Johnson
Delgado
Blalock
Branyan
Glaus
OF FA
Cameron
Dye
Hinske (bench bat)
and thats just including the FA options
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Huff, he provides really good versatility as he can play 3B/1B/ or OF(although he hasnt played OF since 06, but he wasnt horrible he wasnt good either but)…and he wont cost 8M.. Garko will cost more than 425K or else the Indains would have kept him… and Nady isnt any good.
im not opposed to the Huff idea as an option #4 or something. but ur right we should get more than those three for Lowe’s 15M, the nice thing is we would still have around 8M to play with and get somehting else under that scenario… someone perhaps named Michael Cameron. (HAHA he strikes again)… or sub out Nady for Gomes (ya im driving the Gomes bandwagon, straight to hell)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since FoxSports commented that the Mariners are a good fit for Lowe we can get Jose Lopez and put him in first and Franklin Gutierrez but I dont think the Mariners will accept that deal… Franklin Gutierrez- 455K and Jose Lopez 2.25M
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 13, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No chance we get Gutierrez.
It would be nice, but no chance. The Mariners aren’t particularly pleased with Lopez because of his defense and low OBP and we could probably get him. However, for the sames reasons, I don’t want him, lol.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get something other than Jose Lopez?...
seriously, is that all they’d be willing to part with for Lowe?
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That OBP sucks but I think we take the deal if the Mariners would pay
by acie4mvp on Dec 13, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure that if they take Lowe's whole salary....
…we’ll take the Seattle equivalent of Jesse Chavez.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and it would be a good trade (kinda)…so long as he’s not really a RP… an IF would be preferable
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jharmidy DeJesus or Mario Martinez and something else might peak my interests, if the market isnt what we hope it to be.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, to unload Lowe's full salary...
…I’ll take a RP. We can always just release the guy. Or Acosta. ;)
by cavebird on Dec 14, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't that be Bill Hall?...
how about that. would you take Bill Hall, if the Mariners paid the same amount of his contract as Milwaukee was (which is all but $1-2m). He’s getting progressively worse and worse, but could fit along with Infante as a super ut playing anywhere except 1B and C.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt, but i have no faith in Bill Hall as a ML player at this point..Chaves has upside and is on the upswing (if nothing else hasnt shown he is getting worse)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a salary dump though, it works...
considering the Brewers are still paying much of the one year remaining on his deal. I certainly wouldn’t want him in the starting lineup, but as the second super ut off the bench behind Infante, it’s not bad imo.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's face it...
…if they take Lowe’s full salary and don’t saddle us with more than $1-2 million in salary in return, we’ll take anything and it will be a good trade.
by cavebird on Dec 14, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I think Hall...
has the versatility to be an ideal player off the bench. He’s not a starter for a reason, but he’s not much more than a step below and like Infante that can be extremely useful when combined with the ability to play 3-4+ positions in the field. Then again, that would probably be why the Mariners would prefer to keep him.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm down
only because you spelled everyone’s name right.
by BravesRaleigh on Dec 13, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL at your FP% reference.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes wouldn’t be bad either, I just like Garko more. Neither to start however. Either way i think both would fit a nice role off the bench. But still we are probably going to have to pay some of Lowe’s contract. I don’t know what will be left to pay Huff, Garko/Gomes and something else. If not Nady who? I’m not a big believer in Cameron. Maybe he would work. Cust? I know the K rate is way too high, but he quietly has had 25+ HR each of the last three years.
by JKowalek on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how can u possibly like Nady more than Cameron… i refuse to acknowledge this line of thinking…
I can at least understand Garko> GOmes (although i disagree, bc Gomes has more power and better ability to take pitches).
and Cust is a horrible idea and that been established, if u think otherwise imagine Dunn with less power and worse defense (if thats possible).
Ive already states ad nausem that Cameron and Glaus/LaRoche would make use a very dangerous team… and then with Gomes off the bench we would be in good shape and we have the money to make that happen (I think)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LaRoche(8M) + Cameron (8M) + Gomes(2M) would be spending i figure about 18M… and i think thats in the budget assuming we dump Lowe’s contract.
we would have to give LaRoche a 2 year deal (maybe even longer, which is why Glaus might be a better option or Delgado) and Cameron an option for a 2nd, probably
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can at least understand Garko> GOmes (although i disagree, bc Gomes has more power and better ability to take pitches).
See? That is why I like KJ over Prado…not to get into that here, but this is almost identical to what you posted in the other thread.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 13, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
shut up dont bring the KJ nonsense around me… i am officially Shunning you
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I think about it, I never unshunned you!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 13, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unshun…
it was an implicit unshun>
SHUN!
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what she said.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 15, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In your experience, what should I be expecting, in terms of sensation. Or, emotions. [pause] Is there anything I can do to make it more pleasurable for me or for Dr. Shandri. My main concern is should I have a safe word?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 15, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one of the funniest things I've ever seen...
Oscar is my favorite.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 15, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think, if I had to label one as my favorite, like gun-to-my-head, it would have to be Toby…that dude just cracks me up – especially Michael’s unfounded dislike of him.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 15, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always been a pretty big Stanley fan, but I haven’t watched much of the past few seasons.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stanley is hilarious too…and, you need to slit your wrists for not watching recently.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 16, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only shows that I keep up with regularly are Always Sunny and The League. I’ve also got the entire 4th season of Dexter on my DVR that I still need to watch.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this season has had some top notch work
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Office?
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 16, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’ve heard it was the best in a while.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 16, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Always Sunny was on point
The Christmas episode is absolutely hilarious. You can find it on the internet pretty easy if you don’t feel like shelling out $18.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 19, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen it yet, but plan on picking it up next time I’m at Best Buy.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 20, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The League was EXCELLENT!
Also, on IFC (If you have Dish) they are showing Arrested Development…I love TV again!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 16, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised…didn’t think it would be that funny.
And Arrested Development is one of the funniest shows ever. Movie coming out in the near future, I believe.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 16, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You sure?...
I thought George Michael was holding up the works.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 16, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm…one of my friends told me he finally caved. My buddy might have been mistaken though.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK...
just sayin, I expect the release date on that one to be about the same time as the Sopranos movie and Deadwood movie (the Wire was the best, but it basically was a 60+ hour movie divided into one hour segments and had a true ending).
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God dammit, I miss The Wire.
And I was really pissed about the treatment Deadwood received, that show John From Cincinnati was horrendous.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 17, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard they had George Michael on board.
Awhile back David Cross and Jeffery Tambor announced they were starting filming on the Keith Olbermann show and I think they said everyone was on board.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 19, 2009 4:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok take Nady out then. I’m still saying LaRoche wants more than 1 yr and I think that’s what there going to give up so that’s why I’m saying Huff.
Huff + Cameron + Garko/Gomes…. what would that cost. You have to throw in theres a good chance we can’t dump all of Lowe’s salary.
by JKowalek on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Huff we could get for about 5-6M i think his value isnt that high, IMHO and i dont think theres a lot of upside in that play, we are really banking on Heyward or Schafer doing something by signing Huff. ALthough like i mentioned earlier i like Huff’s versatility, which is rare for a 1B… and thats part of the reason i dont like Garko, he can only play 1B as far as we know.
also, try to use the reply button, it makes it easier to follow for others, its easy now that its the end of the thread, but still for future reference.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Garko did have ten starts in the OF last year, i know thats not saying much compared to Gomes, still he’s be much better against lefties in his career. You may have convinced me on Cameron or Dye over Nady but i still like Garko. Either of them would be nice. It all depends on how much of Lowe’s salary we have to eat up.
by JKowalek on Dec 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Garko or Gomes depends on how is playign first… if its Huff (or Glaus)then Id rather have Garko bc of his ability to play 1B and Huff ability to play three positions. If its LaRoche or delgado, i want GOmes, bc of his ability to play the OF and Delgado orLaRoche are solid 1B.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t argue with that, i just don’t see LaRoche signing a 1yr deal and i think that’s all they are going to offer.
by JKowalek on Dec 13, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
me either but Id be ok with a 2 year deal (although i doubt that gets it done either).. i really am opposed to a guaranteed third year, but could be talked into a incentive vesting 3rd year.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt LaRoche does anything quickly.
Per MLBTR, he is seeking 3 years, $31 million. I doubt he gets that, so it will take a while with him—-that could work, he could still be around after we move Lowe.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he might get that…he’s the best 1B out there and a couple teams need a 1B
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He might or he might not...
…but I doubt he does quickly. He might be the best, but he isn’t far ahead of guys like Delgado.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
until you count Delgado's hip....
so yes, he is by far the best 1B on the market considering age, production, defense, etc.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But it is a weak 1B market.
LaRoche is the best on it—-Delgado would be above if not for the hip. But he has the hip, so he is second. Maybe LaRoche gets it, maybe he doesn’t. Hard to tell right now——the problem for LaRoche is that most of the big dollar teams don’t need a 1B, that depresses the whole market.
by cavebird on Dec 13, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the way i look at it… if Laroche gives us a hometwon discount, we’ll pay about what he’s worth, bc his value is artifically high bc of the market…ur right that the big spenders not needing a 1B may hurt his value, but that might not be true, depeing on what happens in Bos (LaRoche is probably their 4th option at this point, but still)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boston tendered Kotchman...
so they’re set at 1B. ;)
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha that they are.
"...Braves tie! ...Braves tie! ...Braves tie!"
by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 15, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And if not for Jordan Schafer's wrist...
we see him all year. Delgado has the injuries, so whether he’d be above LaRoche or not without them is irrelevant. He has them, so he’s not. I guess we can all see how healthy he is now when he starts playing in Puerto Rico before the end of the year.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point that Delgado would be better...
…without the injury was just to demonstrate why he is not that far behind LaRoche even with the injury issue. That is all. And, yes, Delgado’s winter league play could have a lot to do with the kind of deal he gets.
by cavebird on Dec 14, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Delgado’s playing winter ball???
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 14, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Saw something yesterday saying...
teams will get a chance to see him in action next week in PR.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 14, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Delgado is playing here in Puerto Rico i’ve seen him play… He is killing this league and he’s just warming because of all the time he was injured
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 14, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His bat isn't the question...
it’s his ability to move around the bag at 1B.
Anyone else of interest playing this year?
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 14, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is playing pretty good at 1B he did two amazing diving plays yesterday and he husstled another that was almost in second
The Spanish Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 14, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just going on what...
…Mr. Sanchez said. It makes perfect sense given the circumstances. He could make himself serious coin by showing he is healthy.
by cavebird on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See here...
And here from Thursday…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tom_verducci/12/10/winter.meetings.phillies/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 14, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gracias…
Is this common? I don’t think I can recall name-brand players actually playing winter ball before.
Does anyone know of other recognizable names that played winterball to increase their value?
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe there’s been several of the Hispanic players that go back to their home country and play in winter leagues.
by bravesfan91 on Dec 14, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
Pretty sure Pedro did it last year, either in Puerto Rico or the Dominican. Remember Bobby’s comment about Prado playing RF when he went back to Venezuela? I think Pudge played last year in attempt to show his stuff to interested clubs. I think Vlad Guerrero and others have played for a winter league team back home when healthy.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 14, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I knew that fringe 4-A type players (Like Prado AT THE TIME) did it…I think Blanco did it too….but I didn’t know that players like Pudge or Carlos Delgado did it.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 14, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miguel Tejada has played winter ball every year of his career. A lot of the regular/star players who live in those winter ball countries play there. They might not play full seasons but they play. It’s a national pride thing, you play to stay in shape and to show appreciation for your countrymen.
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by cbwilk on Dec 14, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/11/mets-marlins-in-san-juan-may-b.html
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by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They let Garko play some 1B this year...
And he’s played C as recently as ‘06 in the minors. He’d probably be a better bet there than Diaz as the emergency guy if that’s relevant.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
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by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why he's not a more popular option around here.
He’s got an upside, especially in a limited role, and sure isn’t going to break the bank.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 19, 2009 4:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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