D.L. for D.L. ... what do you think?
by JKowalek on Dec 11, 2009 5:21 PM EST
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PrintDerek Lowe for Derrek Lee. Lee is set to make $13mil next season, the last of his contract. RIGHT HANDED POWER BAT. Lowe is due for $15 mil and if the Braves can pay some of the contract i think this can be worked out. Right now the cubs have Zambrano, Dempster and Lilly. The last two spots between Randy Wells, Tom Gorzo(idk how to spell it) and a wide reciever. If they wanted to do this, Lowe could improve that alot. Lee is getting older and it wouldn't suprise me if he wanted to go AL to DH more often when his contract expires, they may be looking to get something for him.
This ensures Freeman a year in AAA with no pressure to get called up and he needs it. He had an injured half of season in AA. He needs more time. No summer call up. Put him in Gwinett for a year, maybe the 40-man later on when we get there.
Lets take this a step further though and kill two birds with one trade. HEAR ME OUT. let's say the Cubs aren't 100% on this. What is their #1 priority this offseason? Get rid of Milton Bradley. Or should i call him The Heyward Bridge. Bradley is owed $9 mil, which puts him and Lee at $22. Lowe $15 Church $1(around there i think) and KJ about $3. Thats pretty close to even. We want to dump Lowe's contract to spend on hitting, this is it. They start shift Soriano to 1st or even Jeff Baker who has played there and start Church or KJ.
Give Jay Hey a half of year to polish everything off and i know Bradley can be alittle crazy but i think Bobby can handle it. once Heyward comes up, trade Bradley for anything we can get.
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Maybe if they hadnt trade Fox then they would consider it.
But i cant see it happening now…
Also, dont trade javier vazquez.
Agreed, agreed, agreed.
Shouldn’t even let him near the visitors clubhouse.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 12, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not gonna happen
Cubs aren’t making that deal. And I don’t want Milton Bradley in a Braves uniform ever.
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by alligatorimpersonator on Dec 11, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions
maybe we can get Beltre and move Chipper to First, and use LaRoche with Lowe in a trade package
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 11, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions
I would love to sign Beltre, but that’s not going to happen.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
The part where you’ve got Chipper moving to 1B when he has said that he wouldn’t make such a move because of having never played on that side of the field, and concerns that the footwork around the bag would be hell on his feet.
well
we can’t trade LaRoche when he’s NOT SIGNED TO US (He’s a Free Agent).
even if he signed with us, you can’t trade a Free Agent signing the first year of their contract.
Jesus.
The Cubs could do it, but would want a deal like:
Lowe
Freeman
for
Lee
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 AM EST up reply actions
we would probably have to….have laroche in order for that to happen….and if we had him, we would just leave chipper at 3rd and have no reason to sign beltre
by BravesRaleigh on Dec 11, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
We can get Delgado… but I think ke is too old and he is better being DH in the AL… also is an injury risk
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 11, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions
Gotta love rosterbation...
…in this universe all trades are possible. If we would take Bradley’s full salary the Cubs might even consider it. (Although you are wrong on Church, he is about $3 million in arbitration, and he won’t be a Brave after he is non-tendered tomorrow.) But I don’t know if that is a good idea. The problem is that Bradley has multiple years on his contract and we aren’t going to want him for that long. And he is a train wreck, but who knows, Sheffield was fine here. But Sheffield was probably several steps to the sane side from Bradley.
sheffield is sane, he just doesnt stop spouting off gems for the media to pour over… Bradley is batshit crazy
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
There it is.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Dec 12, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m saying I think the concept of Lowe for Lee isn’t bad and if they mix and match the right prospects and trade fillers I could see it happening. And for the whole Bradley thing, I don’t necessarily want him in Atlanta but they are dying to get rid of him. I think we should take him off their hands to assist in getting Derrek Lee and trade him half way through the season when Heyward is called up.
the concept is horrible for anyone other than a braves fan.
If Derrek Lee were playing for the braves and the cubs wanted to trade us Derek Lowe for Lee, atlanta fans’ heads would be spinning like they were linda blair. this idea, while nice to think about with a bottle of jergens, is beyond the realm of realistic posibility. were this trade to ever even be considered by the cubs front office, people would be fired/possibly dragged into the streets of chicago and shot.
No. I’d rather keep Lowe for 3 more years than have Lee for just one for roughly the same price.
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by justincredubil02 on Dec 12, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions
That's a bit nuts.
When we have 6 starters and it wouldn’t be the same price because Lee’s deal is done in one year and Lowe’s has two more afterwards.
someone
should stick to Basketball.
and i bet he sucks at that, too.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Dec 12, 2009 5:24 AM EST reply actions
Don't be too harsh on this guy
I see where you are headed with this. The Cubs want to get rid of their problem child (Bradley). Braves want to get to their extra pitcher with a big contract (Lowe). They give us Lee for taking Bradley off their hands. We send Lowe their way. I see where you’re going, but I don’t think the Cubs want to take on a big contract in such a contract. However, they might be willing to pair Lee up to get rid of Bradley.
LEE is absolutely the perfect fit that we are looking for. The problem is that the cubs need him just as much as we desire him. Therefore, it would take a considerable offer to get him as he will be productive for them next year and will be a Type A or B free agent which will net them draft picks.
Lowe is not what they would ask in return, UNLESS, they have a buyer lined up for Zambrano? Thus, the only way we become trade partners with the Cubs is if we give up a very good prospect or design a three team trade that takes either BRADLEY or ZAMBRANO
Cubs send Bradley and Zambrano to Mets and Lee to Braves
Braves send Lowe, Church, Reyes, Robinson Lopez, and Scott Diamond to Cubs.
Mets send Reese Havens to Braves and Scott Moviel to Cubs
Cubs: Reduce Payroll over three year span (12 million over three years) receive a #3 Starter, MLB outfielder, MLB #5 Starter, (3) top pitching prospects. Get rid of Bradley and Zambrano attitudes.
Braves: Get top of the line IF prospect and LEE and reduce (three year cost of 33 million) without blocking Freeman.
Mets: Get #2 starter for 3 years and MLB OF for 2 years which fills (2) major holes and they also keep their stud IF prospect Flores who will replace Castillo when he goes off the books. They would not be able to sign both Bay and Lackey this year so this would affective fill (2) major holes without a 6 year contract to bay or Lackey.
Just a thought on how to move some pieces. I may or may not be off on the value.
Mets: GET #2 starter under control for 3 years, GET MLB ready OF
wow
we’re giving up a lot, and we can’t give up a free agent we don’t have rights to (church)
by BravesRaleigh on Dec 12, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
If we can get lee for lowe and then get garrett atkins in free agents because the rockies non-tendered him we are ready!… we just need a good bench bat
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 12, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
This is silliness.
The Cubs and Mets would never do it. Here’s why:
1. Scott Diamond is not a top pitching prospect. He is organizational filler.
2. Jo-Jo Reyes is not a top pitching prospect. He is a pitching prospect that failed and has upside, but nothing close to a top pitching prospect.
3. Robinson Lopez hasn’t pitched above the Gulf Coast League. He is intriguing, but not yet a top pitching prospect.
4. Ryan Church is a free agent. Anyone can get him for market price without giving up anyone.
5. Saying that Bradley is a MLB OF for 2 years without mentioning that he is a complete headache is understating the obvious by light years.
Umm...
it was a stretch…..and church is gone NOW (after the original post), and the mets are looking at bay.
We wish...
This would only happen if we paid most of our D.L. salary
D.L. for D.L.
Is not happening in the real world…..
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