Norton's Replacement
by JKowalek on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 AM EST
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MLBTR had that Ross Gload was down to the Braves and the Phillies and we didn't get him. So who is next in line to fill out the bench with Ross and Omar? The Royal's just released Mike Jacobs. He made over 3 millions last year but after having a down year we may be able to pick him up at a lower cost to fill the power role off the bench. He hit 19 HR last season while slugging .401. I'm not sure if he would want a backup role, however its worth a shot to consider. Again, anyone really is an upgrade over Norton. The only downside is that he bats lefty.
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Brooks Conrad could surely provide more production than Norton did for the major league minimum. He would be my choice.
No. Not a power bat off the bench…just a bat off the bench. Key phrase here is “off the bench”.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Only a few days till Saturday…
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It’s like waiting in the courtroom for a speeding ticket – you know what the probably outcome is, but gosh-darnit you still hope for the best!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Prado is a starting second baseman, no matter how you slice it. I think without any kind of chip to brush off his shoulder, he will only be better in 2010.
Off the bench ~ Conrad, Ross, Infante……….No-Norton makes me smile.
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 10, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
You have “Norton” on the bench that you listed…he just spells his name C-o-n-r-a-d now.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
From my guys in the front office....
… the Braves are interested in signing Haithcock to be a player/coach.
Oh, Bobby.
btw
i randomly saw Shirley Haithcock listed on a wikipedia article not too long ago in a bout of wikivandalism…very strange
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Let one of the kids do it
Signing a worthless veteran with zero bat speed that struggles to hit average MLB fastballs while a AAAA player burns options on the farm is a waste of cash.
http://www.capitolavenueclub.com/
who do we have in AAA that could be the power bat on the bench… I guess Barbaro is suited for it maybe…anyyone else?
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
Cody. I say bring up Cody.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
i hope ur joking
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
did I forget the “J/K” font again?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Barbaro was DFA'd
But there are tons of players like him on the freely available talent market.
http://www.capitolavenueclub.com/
It’s nothing Barbaro Canizares couldn’t handle. Hell, I bet he even gets a few more hits than Norton did.
I like Barbaro but i don’t know if i want him to be anything more then a pinch hitter. I’d feel much better with Jacobs in there giving days off and covering an injury than him. I’d rather see them try to send him off to be a DH somewhere in the AL. Don’t get me wrong though i’d take Barbaro over Norton any day. And if using him saves us money that they spend for another need, i’m all for it.
Swagga?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions
we can get Thome if he is cheap to be a good bench power bat
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Fernando Tatis can be a good bat and could platoon
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions
KJ can’t do it if he is starting…
:)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Los Bravos, si el senor Wren se tiene cajones.
(yeah, my Spanglish is pretty bad…)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
tu español es muy bueno… quiero que Wren lleve a Los Bravos a la Serie Mundial…. ( understand something )
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 10, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
You and I often disagree, but we both like KJ. I just don’t think there’s much of a chance he goes in to ST as a Brave. For me the writing was on the wall the moment we DFA’d Church.
Wren and Cox likely both view Prado as the starter right now, and KJ is too expensive for a backup, so Wren will find a trade and that’ll be that.
Only way he stays is if we just don’t find a legit 1B to add, in which case we end up with Prado and KJ both on that side of the infield going in to ST.
eric hinske is avaible and will be cheap. Like norton he can play 1st, 3rd, or outfield. He can still hit for some pop and is upgrade over norton
Depending on how cheap, I like this idea a lot.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Me three, if the price is right!
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Mark Richt (November 3, 2009)
same...
like I’ve also said about Troy Glaus, Jermaine Dye, Mike Jacobs, Adam Laroche, Mark Derosa, Hank Blalock, Carlos Delgado, and Geoff Jenkins (of course with differing levels of what “cheap” would mean).
Geoff Jenkins he swings hard…… i like him
leave my syntax alone
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I figured you would like guys who swing…hard.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 11, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
ur mom
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
blast!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 11, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Not a bad idea at all
If we can get him for an even mil, I think it’d he’d be a great bench bat, and he can spell Chipper at 3B too.
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 10, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
no, he’s gonna win the second base job out of spring training, then immediatley be signed to a 10 year, 250 million dollar contract.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
Now that I think about it, even Norton couldn’t replace Norton.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 10, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Long live Rake!
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 11, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
i still like Jacobs but i wouldn’t mind seeing Hinske either. Depends on the price. still alot of the other guys named either don’t have the pop or can’t be trusted to hold his own in the field. The answer is abs. not solved internally with CoJo or Barbaro. Why would CoJo come up and ride the pine to get an AB every other game or so?
Kody was only suggested as a joke.
He obviously will be in AA this year—-still tremendous power, but a ton of stuff he needs to work on. (i.e. making contact). Barbaro would be cheap and not great, I doubt we go with him—-we can find a AAAA guy for cheap in lots of places.
Cody starts with a C, just for future reference.
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When he goes a full season in the minors...
…with less than 150 wiffs, he can get his “C” back. Until then, the K’s have filled up his stat sheet so completely, they spill over into his name. ;)
Brandon Jones….anyone….?
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Yeah, I mentioned him above.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 11, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Blanco?
Waiting in the wings should a pandemic strike the outfield, I guess.
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 11, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Bench
A couple points….
1) You don’t want Jacobs. His power is nullified in a PH role in the fact that he makes terrible contact and doesn’t walk. He doesn’t even work the count very well from what I recall (I personally believe that working the count …seeing a lot of pitches…and adding to the pitch count late in a game is an undervalued skill in a PH). Plus he is a butcher in the field.
2) Garko would be great to have as reserve (though I fear he will be too expensive). He can play 1B- somewhat…play LF-somewhat and could even catch in an emergency…which might allow us to hit Ross more if Garko is on the field elsewhere. I also like the previously mentioned idea of a platoon partner in Garko. He could be a real value as a RH compliment to a Blalock or LaRoche.
3) Kelly Johnson looks like he could be non-tendered….I think in the long run this will haunt us. I understand WHY they have to do it…but I think it will ultimiately be a mistake. Prado has done well…but a healthy KJ with his swing right is a better player and has better upside then Prado. To me Prado is the # 1 guy off the bench and could start if needed. However, even if KJ is relegated to a bench role…would that be so bad? He can play 2B…he can play 3B (or at least he did a bit in the minors)…he can play LF…and he played CF in AAA. I would have preferred the Braves ask him to play in winter ball and play some 3B and some CF. He can handle that then he becomes a REALLY good utility guy who can help cover for Chipper and McClouth who both have a history of injury.
4) Other names to throw out there are bench/PH guys….
Loretta
Quinlan
Hairston
Carroll
I looked at Quinlan too, but he seems pretty terrible. Poor power, power contact skills, and poor defensively.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
Quinlan
I understand…if you look at his minor league numbers and the numbers when he has gotten more ABs they look better. Quinlan would benefit from the national league where he woudl see more ABs. He isn’ t good anywhere…but has played the IF and OF corners previously.
Jamey Carroll would be fantastic but it looks like several teams are willing to sign him to be close to an everyday player.
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The way chipper traditionally gets hurt...
He could be “close” to an everyday player.
Hey, I’m for it. I love the guy to death and would be very excited to see him as a Brave.
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I don’t get it.
Carroll would duplicate what we already have in Infante except that he is older and has less versatility and less pop.
Which is why I wouldn’t want to pay him a ton of money. But pretty much any team needs two good backup infielders.
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THIS...
all the, well we get Diaz, and Infante stuff, do people not realize these are 2 names, with 9 positions and 25 roster spots? We need more than one corner OF, and more than one back up IF.
corner OF is more important, but yes u are correct. (which is another reason resigning KJ to a cheapish contract would be nice, but Prado can use his versatility on days he’s not playing 2B)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
If we need a quality defensive SS...
…that hits—-we won’t find one; if you can do both, you’ll be starting somewhere. If we want one that can’t hit, well, we have Diory. A decent hitting, good fielding back-up SS is a luxury that I don’t know if anyone has.
We had one that was the opposite of Diory, but to a lesser extent – low on the fielding side, good on the hitting side.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
You can find those.
Guys who can pretend to play short and hit a bit. But, for obvious, reasons, guys who can field short well and hit are going to be starting for somebody.
and I suppose they will give Diory another chance to show that he can hit, even a little.
To me, however, there is a lot of room between .141/ .198/ .212 and decent hitting / luxury territory.
I should hope so. I think Hellen Keller could have done a little better than Diory, just by swinging at everything…eventually, something would fall, right?
Diory was just horrible. Talk about an automatic out! It is sad when I would prefer Lowe or Vaz to hit instead of D-Hern!
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 14, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Again...
see his minor league stats. They seem to indicate a better hitter than what we saw. Considering Garrett Atkins from 8 years ago, Hernandez hitting slightly over .300 the last 3 years in AA and AAA seems kind of pertinent.
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