Uggla for Vazquez?
by AlRoBraves95 on Nov 4, 2009 5:10 PM EST
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In his latest mailbag, MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro suggests that the Florida Marlins and Atlanta Braves could possibly consider connecting on a Dan Uggla-for-Javier Vazquez trade, should the Braves put Vazquez on the market.
This idea actually makes a lot more sense than it may seem on the surface, since the Braves lack an everyday first baseman and the Marlins front office is very familiar with Vazquez from his time in Montreal.
Uggla could play first, or the Braves could slide Chipper Jones to first base and use Uggla at third base. The problem with such a trade, however, might be the money owed to Vazquez. The reason Uggla might be available is the salary he may earn through arbitration this winter, and Vazquez is guaranteed $11.5 million for 2010.
Thats the article.
Isn’t Uggla a FA if he doesn’t agee to arb?
Why can’t people understand that Chipper can’t play 1B?
Here are Pujols's stats: 1.000/1.000/4.000/5.000. That's right. He is batting a thousand, with a thousand OBP (naturally), and every hit has been a home run, and thus his OPS is a perfect 5.000.
Not to mention...
Uggla’s never played a day of 1B or 3B in his ML career
No he is under control for two more years. The Fish can not tender him a contract though.
by bbxxj on Nov 4, 2009 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
???
Wasn’t Vazquez roughly twice as valuable as Uggla last year?!
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If this deal were to happen Florida would have to include a pretty damn good second piece and possibly a prospect in addition, and atlanta would include cash i assume. Vazquez + cash for Uggla, Ross, and a pen arm is pretty fair imo. Rather keep Javy though
by McCann's the Man on Nov 4, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions
Agreed
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Nov 6, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Trading Vasquez within the division makes absolutley no sense to me, and chipper isn’t going to move to first base. He was our BEST pitcher this past year so we better got more than dan uggla for him. besides prado is fine at 2nd base. If we trade vasquez i hope to get a big bat that can play the outfield.
This isn't gonna happen
I don’t even see why we’re talking about this. Javy would take up about 35% of their payroll.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
Exactly.
They’d only move Uggla to try and shed payroll… so why the hell would they be willing to take on Vasquez’s circa 12mil…?
Some of these guys seem totally clueless.
by get swoll yunel on Nov 5, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
They've gotta write something I guess
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Nov 6, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’d be down for Vazquez for Hanley Ramirez…thoughts??
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LOL
if only the Marlins were that stupid.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Nov 4, 2009 8:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vazquez & Esco for Hanley and Uggla
My hands hurt from rosterbating.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Nov 6, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Vazquez, Esco, Bethancourt for Hanley and Ross. I’d do it. Even tho we’d probably have the worst infield defense in baseball if we swapped Hanley for Esco.
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by Scott Coleman on Nov 6, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I Hope This Isn't Going To Go Down
Man I like Vazquez and what he brought to the Braves rotation.The Braves and Bobby Cox especially went on and on about how badly they wanted him for a long period of time.We have him now and he done just what we needed him to do,to trade him now would make Bobby and upper management look like a bunch of liars.I say trade Lowe,I know because of his salary it would be harder but he didn’t live up to expectations plus he ended really bad.The return might not be all that much but to get rid of that contract speaks volumns.We get 15 mil if he gets traded that can be huge for us,but we all know this is can be a cruel business at times and to trade Vazquez would be just that if you ask me.
Uggla for Vazquez?
Never in a million, zillion years.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
If you are going to trade Vazquez you better get something good in return..
I don’t know if Uggla is that guy…He played 3B in the minors….but he is horrible at 2B…would he be any better at 3B…probably not…and as someone mentioned Chipper is probably not suited to play 1B. Do you leave him at 2B and move Prado to 1B or move Prado into a utilty role? I could see the Braves looking at his numbers and thinking he is a feasible #4 hitter for us. You could make the argument that he is as good, if not better then anyone else available to fill that hole…but really? Straight up for Vazquez?
Could we squeeze Uggla AND Ross…or Uggla and Chris Coghlan? Hell…forget Uggla…can we get Coghlan and Ross? I think I might like the combination of those two over a straight up trade for Uggla. If they trade for Uggla does that mean they don’t resign LaRoche? If that is the case…you have to say no. Would it make sense to try and move Prado and get the extra player like Ross in the deal? Isn’t ross arb eligible this year?
As unattractive as that might sound at first…it would look good if you kept LaRoche as well…
McClouth (CF)
Escobar (SS)
Chipper (3B)
LaRoche (1B)
Uggla (2B)
McCann ©
Diaz/Church (RF)
Some scrub in LF
While I agree that we could easily do better than just Dan Uggla, you’re way overhyping the bad rap he gets on D. In actuality Uggla is only slightly below average at second base, at least close enough to average that it doesn’t detract from his offense. In no way is he an absolute butcher in the field. People remember the all star game imo and base their judgement largely off of that
by McCann's the Man on Nov 4, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
No for so many reasons
1. If the Fish trade Uggla it will be for specs with little or no service time, not taking on ~5M more than Uggla would cost in arbi.
2. I’m sure Wren is salivating at the idea of facing JJ, Nolasco, and Javy in a three game series. We would have 50Ks by the time we got out of Miami.
3. Though I think getting Uggla and or Cantu is a good idea… trading our ace to a rival
we are always neck and neck with is a horrible idea.
by bbxxj on Nov 4, 2009 8:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd give up Vasquez for Uggla
and Hanley Ramirez.
You say to-mah-to, I say you're retarded.
by alligatorimpersonator on Nov 5, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions
HAHA
No way anyone gets the HanRam. He would command a ridiculous return in terms of players and prospects…
by Andy Braves Fan on Nov 5, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
oh
it seems I was not the only one with this idea…my bad
You say to-mah-to, I say you're retarded.
by alligatorimpersonator on Nov 5, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions
It’s kind of misclassified- it’s the FLA beat writer saying he thinks that one thing they should try to do to improve. That’s a matter of one guy’s speculation, not a rumor, which is something based off of either an idea tossed around internally by a FO or by conversations between two FOs.
Ah
I see. Makes more sense. However, I don’t see why the Braves would accept that trade. Uggla (who is coming off a down year) probably isn’t enough to acquire Vazquez in any given year anyway, let alone this year.
by Andy Braves Fan on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
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