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Is it worthwhile to sac bunt?

Howdy fellow Braves Fans!

As some of you will remember, a few months ago I asked for baseball-themed ideas for a final project in my Statistics class. I promised to share the results with you when I finished, and so, without further ado...

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A friend of mine (who is a member at Bucs Dugout) and I decided to determine if laying down a sacrifice bunt really increased your chances of scoring a run. (I remember many of us asking the same question in Open Threads throughout the season) Because there are so many different variables to control for, we looked at one specific condition: when there is a man on first with no outs. (This prevents confounding variables, such as having to compare the efficacy of sac bunting with, for example, men on 1st and 2nd with one out and a man on first with no outs). We looked solely at the American League, so as not to have to deal with the pitcher.

We began by going through every game played in the AL last year, and notating every instance where a man reached first with no outs. We then recorded whether or not that man scored, if he was sac'd over to second, and how many total runs were scored in that inning. 4,728 data points (and a big headache) later, we had all of our data. For the record, of the 4,728 times a man reached first with no outs in the AL last year, he was sac'd over to 2nd 193 times.

 

Chance of the man on first scoring... 

Of the 4,728 times that a man reached first with no outs, he scored 39.36% of the time. We then looked at the effect of the bunt and found out that when the man wasn't sac'd over, he only scored 39.25% of the time. When he was sac'd to 2nd however, he scored 41.97% of the time. In testing for statistical significance we found the p-value of this test to be .0001. This means that there is a 99.99% chance that the 41.97% is not due to random chance, and is thus statistically significant.

In conclusion, a sacrifice bunt DOES increase the man on first's chance of scoring.

 

Chance of the team scoring...

Although we looked at the chances of the man on first scoring, the team sac'ing is not concerned as much with the man on first scoring, but with anyone scoring. So we next examined the chance that the team scores at all given that they have a man on first with no outs. The chance of scoring at all across the the 4,728 times a man reached first last year was 43.23%. When there was no sac bunt, the chance was 43.24%, and when there was a sac bunt, the chance of a team scoring was 43.01% The p-value of this test was .749, meaning that there is no statistical significance.

In conclusion, a sacrifice bunt DOES NOT increase a team's chance of scoring a run. The probabilities are virtually identical.

 

Average runs scored...

Finally, we looked at the average number of runs scored per inning when a man reached first with no outs. Across those 4,728 instances, those teams averaged .9314 runs per inning. When a team sac'd the man over to second, their average runs per inning were .7098.  When a team did NOT sac the man over however, they scored an average of .9409 runs per inning. The p-value for this test was .0025, indicating a big statistical difference.

In conclusion, sacrifice bunting DECREASES the average number of runs scored per inning.

 

Putting it all together...

So there you have it. Basically, you should not sac bunt. Not only do you have the same chance of scoring in an inning whether or not you sacrifice bunt, giving up one of your outs means that you will average less runs. 

 

A few limitations...

Like I said, we had to control across all situations, so we only looked at the AL, and what happens with a man on first and no out. But, since this is the most common bunting situation, it gives us a better, more statistically accurate glimpse into sac bunting. If you examined all situations, you would probably find that these probabilities hold, more or less, but we cannot be sure. Also, how these numbers would translate to the NL is noteworthy. This study shows that you should never have position players bunt, but as for the pitcher, it is probably still prudent to have him sacrifice, as most pitchers have such a low batting average. We avoided the NL for precisely this reason - the pitcher and his abnormally low BA would confound the study. But as I said, this should hold for all position players.

So, dear Bobby: Next time you decide to have Martin Prado and his .310 BA square to bunt, please think again! Sac bunting is a big heap of...

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"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."

by justincredubil02 on Nov 30, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

lol…I am waiting on the detailed KJ post like this one…

"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."

by justincredubil02 on Nov 30, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It is nice to see statistics to back this up

excellent project. I think most stat heads have thought for years that sac bunting was not a good play except for incredibly horrible hitters—-basically just bad hitting pitchers. I would have guessed that it increased the teams ability to score one run but overall hurt the number of runs scored. That it doesn’t even help a team score one run surprises me, but just reinforces the conclusion that it is a bad idea.

by cavebird on Nov 30, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

I think you and the poster hit on an important point

sac bunting is still probably the best choice when you have a HORRIBLE hitter at the plate. Prado shouldnt be bunting, but a crappy pitcher? I say do it.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

by Doghnut on Nov 30, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I would add

I don’t think it isn’t a bad play for a speedy player to but a guy to 2nd, but it isn’t necessarily a sac bunt as that speedy player would be bunting for a hit. The Braves don’t have these types of players, these are guys like Jose Reyes who are mega-fast.

I would like to see a study on that as well.

by Andy Braves Fan on Nov 30, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

How dare you prove Joe Morgan is an idiot!

You say to-mah-to, I say you're retarded.

by alligatorimpersonator on Nov 30, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

In statistical analyses such as this, you can never “prove” anything… he’s only “giving evidence” that Joe Morgan is an idiot.

by Gage23 on Nov 30, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you mean Joe Morgan is wrong?!?

I thought his eyes could see everything!

(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)

by GoBravesNY on Nov 30, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see a problem with sac bunting with a man on second with no outs. But i agree with the study about a man on first with a good hitter at the plate, don’t do it.

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by 10-4 on Nov 30, 2009 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

twice for emphasis.

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by 10-4 on Nov 30, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Thrice.

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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Nov 30, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be interested to see how this works out for the NL

A sample size of 193 bunts is kinda small. With pitchers hitting, it’ll probably be bigger…wonder if that would change the numbers at all.

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by Doghnut on Nov 30, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

I’d take a 20% chance of not making an out (swinging away) over a 5% chance of not making an out (bunting) anyday.

"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."

by justincredubil02 on Nov 30, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed...

…that’s why it only makes sense with really bad hitters—-pitcher caliber hitters.

by cavebird on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah…like REALLY bad hitters, like .150 avg or worse hitters.

"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."

by justincredubil02 on Nov 30, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

There might be an argument to have...

….hitters between .150 and .200 bunting based on propensity to ground into double plays as that might possibly affect some pitchers or back-up catchers who really can’t hit. (Remember Corky Miller?) But generally, you are correct, giving up the out is not worth it.

by cavebird on Nov 30, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

So

Mario Mendoza should have bunted every at bat?

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 7, 2009 5:18 AM EST up reply actions  

when a runner was on first

yeah

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

by Doghnut on Dec 10, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I think a bigger part of the strategy of bunting

that isn’t being mentioned is in trying to avoid the double play.

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 7, 2009 5:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rec this

but I’m on the mobile version of TC. Good work.

"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"

by Scott Coleman on Nov 30, 2009 10:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Great idea.

Hope your prof liked it too.

by Lizziebeth on Nov 30, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

he was a sports stats guy...

so he loved it! Now i just hope he loved it enough to give me an A :-p

by Zeus12888 on Nov 30, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Sac bunt is a situational play

I like what you’ve done here. But as a guy who sometimes values small ball, I’ve got a few comments. In some cases I’m building on some things that have already been said, but bare with me:

1. AL and NL require different strategy. It often makes sense to let a weak hitting pitcher bunt.
2. Cavebird had an interesting comment. If you have a hitter that is prone to hitting into double plays, a bunt might be more apporpriate than if you have a fly ball hitter. This is a risk reward propostion. If a guy hits a fly ball 9 times out of 10, you take the risk that he won’t hit into a double play hoping for the reward that he might hit a homerun.

3. The makeup of your team should also effect your strategy. If you have more sluggers it makes more sense not to bunt (generally) than if you have a team full of punch and judy guys. Even if you take the bat out of the hands of a guy with a 400 OBP, it is more likely that he will be put out than not. The upside to letting him hit is likely a single or a walk and the preservation of an out. A guy with a 400 OBP and power has an equal chance of reaching base safely if you let him hit but he has the upside reward of putting 2 runs on the board.

4. What you do in the 1st inning may be different than what you do in the bottom of the 9th with the score tied. You may give up an out with the sac bunt but you virtually eliminate the chance of the double play and put the game winner in scoring position.

by niekromurphy on Nov 30, 2009 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

I completely agree with you

All of this is situational…thats why i just analyzed one specific instance. But your right. As a manager, I wouldnt eliminate the sac from my playcalling, but it would make me think twice before using it.

by Zeus12888 on Nov 30, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

There are just so many variables that can go into deciding to opt for a sacrifice or not. You did a good job keeping it focused on one specific instance as you put it.

by Sparhawk on Nov 30, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

nice read, great way of backing up something we all basically knew, plus just an interesting project.

Hope the project went well

(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)

by GoBravesNY on Nov 30, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

The man who reached first with no outs scored only 39.36% of the time...

At least that means we weren’t the only ones that sucked at getting the leadoff man in.

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by bravos1984 on Nov 30, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Excellent stuff, great read.

But still, get em on, get em over, get em in, by any means necessary.

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by cbwilk on Dec 1, 2009 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

You just made one part of a Run Expectancy Matrix. Your numbers line up nicely with this one.

The Book and Tango’s site talk about stuff like this too. Short answer is that bunting 1st to 2nd is mostly bad, but in low run environments or with awful hitters, it’s useful. Though it should be done occasionally anyway to keep the defense honest.

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by VictorW on Dec 2, 2009 2:58 AM EST reply actions  

u havent been around much lately… we (or I guess me at least) miss ur insight

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Dec 2, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

What about when bunting

the runner to third or trying to bunt him in from third?
Anyway to see what the average success rate is for batters when they bunt for a hit with the shift on? Carlos Pena seems to have some success when he does this.

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 7, 2009 5:14 AM EST reply actions  

the last scenario is completely different… bunting for a hit should be enouraged is you can maintain a could success rate (perhaps equal to ur BA or slightly below even…maybe thats too high)

as he said he didnt have the time to run the nbrs, but others have and most of the time…it only makes sense to sac bunt with a hitter with less an OBP of 200 or 250…. u may score one run, but not multiple… of course late innings, no outs tie game, runner of third, maybe it makes sense to bunt him in.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

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