Maybe an interesting situation brewing with regard to a Cox successor?
by temjin9876 on Oct 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT
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With all of the talk about Fredi Gonzalez being "in trouble" for the Marlins lack of staying power when they would approach a playoff spot (getting within 2 games of the Wild Card lead and then going 5-9), one must think what his possible firing would do to the selection of a new skipper. He was a fan favorite here and I have seen many posts on this board in support of him but would you still want him to succeed Cox given the situation he is in with Florida? The Braves are coming into a new age of sorts and some believe that should include a new coaching philosophy. It appears to me that Fredi has some of that Cox-like "dont-care-if-we-are-hitting-as-long-as-we-hustle-down-to-first" style. But if you ask me, I may still take Fredi because it is better than watching Pendleton not give a crap but get paid even more. Thoughts about Fredi?
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The managers in Florida seem to have a short lifespan these days.
"My God! Good news fans, the Braves are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact, they appear to be beating the crap out of each other."
i like how
the Marlins GMs and Owners hire these guys to manage their ballclub and then say “okay, we’re gonna spend $25million on our team this year…now go win!”
that doesnt seem too fair to me…
actually, I have cousins in the Miami area and the rumors are that Freddie took Dan Uggla’s side in the fight between him and Hanley Ramirez. Managment didnt like that since Hanley is the face of the franchise. but who knows…
Frank Wren for GM of the Year.
"Wait, bait and bash." - Jason Heyward's personal philosophy.
by Scott Coleman on Oct 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m starting to think that Wren isn’t going to hire anybody within the organization or who’s been with them before. It seems like he’s going to want to get “his” guy. Whether or not that’s the best idea remains to be seen.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Has been godawful in several places for several teams.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Oct 7, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny Acta would, imo, be a phenomenal hire. Anybody out Cleveland way familiar enough with Eric Wedge to comment on him as a fit? I watch so little AL ball I don’t know a ton about him but I’m intrigued.
Anyone know what ever happened to Jerry Royster? Once upon a time he was supposed to be the next great manager…
"Why do they sing 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' when they're already there?'" - Larry Andersen
Royster has only managed part of 1 season in the majors with the Brewers in 2002. He went 53-94 after taking over for Davey Lopes. He is currently managing in Korea.
Appreciate the update. Maybe I’m just remembering all the talk toward the end of his playing days about him being a good manager. Didn’t he manage for a good while in the Braves organization though? With all the retread managers out there it’s a shame that’s the only shot he got. Nice to know he’s still active in the game.
"Why do they sing 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' when they're already there?'" - Larry Andersen
Nope...
Never in our org. Did work for a few other teams between ’02 and ’06.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Oct 7, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this team needs an AAA manager that nobody's heard of !!!!
We don’t need Cox or Pendleton ,screw those guys. We need someone like Mike Sioscia. We need someone who can move (inspire) our team. Look at the Angels or the “88” Dodgers. I know some guys are hooked on the statistics, but there is another side to baseball. Baseball is something that other sports are not. The 95 mph fastball that cuts to the left or right,no one can do that unless they are a baseball pitcher. I can throw a 30 ft basket or a 60 yard bomb sometimes,but I can never throw a 95 mph cutter ever or hit one either!!! Francouer is going to end the season hitting over .300 for the stinking, lousy accursed Mets. But when he was with the Braves, who would have Thought,HUH? Baseball is special, nothing like it really. If the Braves don’t get some major talent then they are going to need some major INSPIRATION.
I don’t know if you did this intentionally, but in my mind you did…
Great work on the space inbetween the 4 exclamation marks and the word “of”.
It made me chuckle.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Oct 5, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Ken Oberkfel.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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Interesting...
but Oberkfel is a Met (both for rivalry and the fact I don’t care for their organizational way), I’d rather not.
How about Ron Johnson, Chris Chambliss, Larry Parrish, Bobby Jones, Stu Cole or Tim Wallach? I ask in part because you’ve seen a heckuva lot more AAA games than me and would be more familiar with them and their reputations that I am.
I don’t think I’ve seen Jones, Cole, or Wallach as coaches anywhere, so I can’t comment on them.
I get the feeling that Chambliss is very hands-off as a manager and coach, so I’m not really inclined toward him. He seem to interact with his players all that much, and that kind of bothers me.
Parrish would be an excellent choice. I think the world of him and I know his players do. He’s got a great situation in Toledo, it’s a nice place to play and the Tigers put decent talent there. The fact that guys like Mike Hessman and Kevin Hooper will play there year after year says something about Parrish as a manager.
Johnson really knows his stuff. It’s kind of hard to judge him evenly since Pawtucket usually has insane amounts of talent, but they didn’t really this year and the team still did well. I definitely like him.
But, still, of AAA managers I know of, excluding Dave Brundage who I really think would be the best choice but I’m guessing Wren isn’t going from within the organization, I’d go with Obie. He was here in Norfolk for three years and he definitely gets the most out of his players. He’s knowledgable and really cares about the game and his players.
"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
www.dropoutproductions.com
Bobby Valentine
Talk amongst yourselves…
"Brian McCann will be guest starring as Bizarro in Smallville this fall. See, he has to put his glasses on to become Superman." -by Rhyno18 on Aug 4, 2009 5:52 PM EDT
I think he would be a pretty safe choice as well. However, as cbwilk stated above, I think there is a strong chance that Wren gets someone never affiliated with the Braves and maybe someone who has always flown under the radar but no one has ever taken a chance on. Wren likes getting rid of the old and bringing in the new but also enjoys getting under-appreciated guys like Vasquez and Ross.
We’ll get fucked. It’ll be Terry P.
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Chief! Do your anti-rain dance!!! Now, damn it! Now!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Oct 7, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions
Don’t be surprised at all when this guy comes up cause I can almost guarantee he will….Ned Yost. His tenure in Milwaukee was a total roller coaster but he did work for us for 12 seasons. Don’t really have an opinion on the guy…just saying his name will come up.
He also managed very well at times there.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this depends on what you are looking for in a manager… Do we want a guy who knows good baseball theory? or a Player’s manager?
I personally don’t think Yost is either and can give examples for both sides. But thats hardly my point. What do we want for the guy who is coming in to replace on of the most prolific (in terms of wins and ejections and dirty words) managers in baseball. I think by going the player’s manager route the guy is bound to fail, bc he wont live up to Bobby, so i think we should go for a guy that knows the intricacies of the game (preferably a guy who knows sabremetrics, but thats more of a pipe dream than anything at this point). But thats just me.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
I think Yost would do a good job but I honestly have no idea what route we’ll go. You won’t find a players’ manager that measures up to what Bobby did but I think we’re too established of a franchise to take a risk on some young unproven manager. Just please god no Pendleton
by MTSU11 on Oct 8, 2009 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i lived in Milwaukee when Yost was there. He has trouble managing a bullpen. He goes to the pen early and often. Gee, wonder where he learned that? PM would be in 100 games with Yost as the Skipper.
Trouble managing the Bullpen is an understatement.
by blitzerlover on Oct 10, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Any chance he learned from his mistakes?...
that was his first time as manager, perhaps he’s learned, like Bill Belichek with the Cleveland Browns.
i’m thinkin’ we need a young guy, who can relate to our young guys…this is outta nowhere but what about Craig Biggio? I’ve also heard Brad Ausmus thrown around…i think these would be great hires..
they’ve both been linked to the Astros job, along with Bagwell, and I doubt Biggio would do anything with an organization not name the Astros. It would be like Chipper leaving, it doesnt make sense and makes u wanna cry a lil.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
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