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Braves Top-5 Minor League Third Basemen


While the middle INF depth chart for the Braves is filled with mostly non prospects, the corner spots are slightly better stocked. First Base of course has Frederick Freeman and a couple of big power guys behind him. Third Base falls somewhere between the talent of First Base and the middle INF positions. Even if they aren't all 'prospects' in the traditional sense, most of the guys here are interesting players with some value going forward. Two guys tied for the top spot in the combined TC rankings: Donell Linares and Jake Hanson. 

1A. Donell Linares B/T: R/R Born: 10/28/1983 HT: 6'0" WT: 199

Donell Linares is one of those guys that isn't a prospect in the traditional sense of the word. He played this season at age 25 at High A Myrtle Beach which made him a full year older than anyone else on the roster and 2-3 years older than many of his teammates. Linares is a Cuban defector whom the Braves signed on June 20, 2008. 2009 was his US debut in professional ball as he just spent a couple of weeks staying sharp in the DSL last summer. With all that being said he put together a solid campaign for the Pelicans and was probably the best hitter down the stretch.

Linares skill set bears some resemblance to fellow countryman Yunel Escobar, but he sports an even lower K rate (14th most difficult to K in the minors this season) and a little bit more current pop. He posted a .772 OPS for the Pelicans, which isn't wowing, but when considered with the fact that this was his first year in the US it has to be considered a success. Another strong indicator for next season is how he improved late in the season. His OPS was 80 pts higher after the All Star break, which was mostly buoyed by a big August where he hit 6 of his 15 homers. Linares is excellent at getting the bat on the ball, which is great, but it also means that he may never walk a ton. His walk rate did improve significantly the last two months of the season but it still was not spectacular. If he can tap into his power for a full season and take a few more free passes he would actually have a bat that could play every day at the major league level.

Linares has little to no speed, going 5/10 in stolen base attempts this season and wasn't anything special in the field either as he committed 22 errors at 3B. He played a few games at 1B and wasn't bad, but without any eyes on data there is no way to make a real judgment on his defensive prowess other than the numbers. He also has very little room for projection  being nearly 26 years old. For him to be valuable to the Braves he will need to be ready in the next season or so, but if he maintains his production as he moves up the ladder he could be a serviceable stopgap if Chipper plans to retire suddenly.

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1B. Jake Hanson B/T: R/R Born: 11/20/1989 HT: 6'0" WT: 180

If Linares ranks at the top of this list because of his current toolset, Jake Hanson ranks up here because of future projection. Taken in the 14th Rd in the 2008 amateur draft, Hanson won't be 20 years old until November and still has plenty of room for projection in his body. He debuted in the GCL last season and posted .721 OPS (which is about 50 pts better than league average in the GCL). This year Hanson returned to the GCL and had a mini-breakout where he posted an .842 OPS ranking him in the top 10 in the league.

The biggest area that Hanson improved upon was his power production (Which is to be expected of someone who is a teenager!). In 2008 he slugged .345 with an ISOP of .090 which both would have put him around league average. In 2009 he improved that to .450 and .170 respectively (this year's league AVGs were .335 SLG and .097 ISOP). Another skill that Jake is already showing is the ability to take walks. He has walked in a little over 12% of his PAs since being drafted which is superb, especially for someone his age.

Right now Jake's biggest problem is what most young players struggle with: strikeouts. In his pro career he has struck out in about 24% of his PAs. He has time to correct this and with him already showing the ability to take a walk, even if the Ks stay where they are he could still be a valuable offensive player. His defense is rough around the edges since he was a SS in high school and has been making the transition to 3B, but there is no reason to believe he can't stick there long term. He just needs some seasoning. Hanson impressed the Braves in his pre-draft workout last year and is known to be an extremely hard worker. At this point he just needs to let his body mature and adds its natural strength and improve his already solid skill base. Jake Hanson could turn out to be another great find for the Braves scouting department. He has nothing left to prove in the GCL, so expect to see him start next year at Danville in the Appalachian league (unless he really impresses in spring workouts).

3. Jordan Kreke B/T: R/R Born: 03/21/1987 HT: 6'1" WT: 205

Jordan Kreke was taken by the Braves in the 13th round in the 2009 amateur draft. He made his debut in Danville as the everyday third basemen after being a shortstop in college. Kreke comes into the system with as a Louisville Slugger Third Team All American after he posted a .394 AVG for Eastern Illinois this season.

Kreke showed improvement every year in college going from a .567 OPS in limited playing time his freshman year to to being a 3 time player of the week (a record) in the Ohio Valley Conference. He hit for more power his Sr. season with 32 extra base hits (his previous high was 25) and hit 13 homers  after only hitting 4 in his first three seasons. Jordan's pro debut wasn't quite as successful as his Sr. season as he posted just a .712 OPS for Danville at 22 years old. His power all but vanished but he did maintain a solid AVG and OBP. He shows a polished college approach that leads to a decent number of walks and low strike out totals.

Kreke needs to rediscover his power in order to become a viable 3B prospect. He also needs to make the most of his opportunities. At present his offense plays more towards the middle of the INF and less on a corner. He has never been much a stolen base threat and his defense is still developing at 3B after switching positions opon being drafted. Look for Kreke to start 2010 in Rome unless he wows the world and gets a bump to Myrtle Beach.

4. Edison Sanchez B/T: R/R Born: 11/01/1990 HT: 6'4" WT: 195

Edison Sanchez had one of the best seasons in the DSL this season posting a .921 OPS as an 18  year old. When looking through his profile there really isn't much to like about him. At 18 he is already an imposing figure on the diamond at 6'4" and stands to fill out his frame as he matures. Atlanta's front office also rewarded his great season by making him the DSL Minor League Player of the Year.

Sanchez flashed solid power in his second season in the DSL as he knocked 4 HR to go along with 4 triples and 7 doubles. His ISOP was a solid .175 (solid for the DSL at least) and he should add more power as he puts on muscle. The most impressive stat concerning this 18 year old is his walk rate. In two seasons in the DSL he has walked right around a 17% clip. That is absolutely phenomenal for any level. His 34/42 K/BB rate bodes well for his future success.

DSL stats are not always the easiest to interpret because it is difficult to gauge the level of competition and field conditions that players are competing in, so any time a guy puts up great stats in a complex league they have to be taken with a tiny grain of salt. That said the stats cannot really be ignored either. On the surface Edison Sanchez appears to be a very solid prospect going forward. The only knock on him long term may be that he outgrows 3B. Granted 3B is a position for big guys, but if he grows much more he could lose the mobility that allows him to stay there. Sanchez could move up to the GCL or Danville next season depending on the depth and his performance in spring training. If he gets off to a hot start there could be a lot of buzz surrounding him.

5. Van Pope B/T: R/R Born: 02/26/1984 HT: 6'0" WT: 200

Ah Van Pope, at one time the heir apparent to Chipper Jones. Alas, no more. Pope peaked in 2006 in Myrtle Beach where he posted a .783 OPS (when Myrtle Beach was still death to hitters) along with 15 homers (about 10 more than he has ever hit at any other level). Since then he has regressed in most facets of his offensive game though his one above average tool, his defense, has remained intact.

At one time Van Pope looked like he was going to develop into a power hitting 3B prospect with gold glove defense and a solid eye at the plate. Now at age 25, his career isn't over, but he is going to have turn things around soon or be passed up by other players, especially the way Frank Wren has been releasing veteran minor leaguers who may still have potential. In the three seasons since he hit 15 HR in Myrtle Beach Pope has hit just 14 total since then seeing his ISOP go from .167 down to .087 this season. He still doesn't strike out a ton, and his walks have actually improved since falling off a cliff after the 2005 season. He did suffer from a horribly low BABIP (.238)  even though he had a really high line drive %.

There are still some things here to like about Van Pope. Obviously the Gold Glove caliber defense is worthwhile and could probably get him a roster spot somewhere. Unfortunately he just isn't going to stick anywhere until the bat comes around. There is still a little light at the end of this tunnel, but wherever his power has gone he needs to go find it again. His walk and K rates are solid enough to rate as average. Expect to see Van Pope back in Gwinnett to start the 2010 season and if things don't turn around, don't expect to see him after that.

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ugh...

unless one of these guys grows up quickly (or in Linares’ case, grow a better skill set quickly) we will need to focus on 3B in next year’s draft. preferably a power hitting 3B with lots of projection.

High School guys who could project as 3B:

Yordy Cabrera, Florida
Kaleb Cowart, Georgia
Marcus Littlewood, Utah
Stetson Allie, Ohio
Nick Castellanos, Florida

College guys who are SS/3B:

Christian Colon, Fullerton
Derek Dietrich, Georgia Tech
LeVon Washington
Victor Sanchez, San Diego

i would bet that 4-5 of those guys are available when we pick and i would suggest that we should draft 1-2.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez gives me hope...

but IF in general are a huge need. The team has plenty of young arms (although you can never have too much), and several solid young players at 1B, C, and OF. With the strength elsewhere around the diamond, you’d expect an awful lot of SSs in the upcoming draft (since you seem to see so many minor league 2B and 3B who were SSs prior to being drafted). But this group is certainly a lot more promising than either list at SS or 2B.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 20, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe I missed it...

EDISON!!!! Your my favorite player

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by bwellnjonesco on Oct 20, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to be a lil bit of hope with Sanchez and Hanson at least.

braves#1

by rockybull on Oct 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, i didn’t even know about Edison Sanchez.

Another prospect to keep an eye on.

I do remember a lot of hype around Van Pope. Sucks that he couldn’t put it together.

Thanks a lot for the list.

by Sparhawk on Oct 20, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DSL

There are several guys to keep an eye on in the DSL. Here’s two guys(pitcher/hitter) but there several players that did well and should be state side next season.

Andy Otero, 16 – He may have been the youngest most impressive guy in the league this season. At 5’9", 150ish Otero came right after hitters with his FB which was consistantly 91-92 topping out at 94, his change up kept the hitters honest and he also had a slurve that he used occasionally that needs work.

Juan Flores, 22 – Signed with the Braves in June if I’m not mistaken but hit very well and played great defense. He was old for the league but since the Braves sign him kinda late they started him in the DSL, look for Flores to start next season in Danville or Rome.

by Jay212033 on Oct 20, 2009 4:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Just one idea.

Ugly is the only way I can describe our “so called” 3b prospects. Sanchez has really the only chance of being something. The rest ugly; we could always move Escobar to 3B after this coming season and call up Brandon Hicks or another SS prospect. I believe Yunel could be a better 3B then a SS. He has the frame, definately has the arm and of course we all know that he was our best offensive player last season.

Go Braves.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 20, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but....

Escobar doesn’t have enough pop to play one of the corner IF spots.

by Jay212033 on Oct 20, 2009 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

i dont really buy that, if we can get power from another position per se one not known traditionally for power… it would be the the same aggregate amount of power. So basically, if we have a SS with 20-25+ HR thats above avg, so Yunel’s 15 would play at 3B. If that makes sense…

I guess I’m saying I dont necessarily buy into the idea that certain positions need power and others aren’t needed (or at least not as important)…. we are benefitted by a surplus of power from our C so we can afford a lack of power at other spots (theoretically, to a certain level)

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Oct 20, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

But the person stated that they eanted to replace Escobar with Hicks which would only work defensively. Hicks is not ready IMO but I get what your saying that if we could get some one with some pop at another IF spot to off set his power then it would even out but in reality how many SS/2B have 20+ HR power to justify moving Esco to 3B not very many and none of the FA on the market would make a difference. We definitely don’t have one in our system.

by Jay212033 on Oct 20, 2009 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

ya i agree moving Yunel doesn’t necessarily do anything. Especially cause I would characterize his power at SS as about average (maybe slightly below i didn’t actually check). But you see the wording power position far too often…any position can produce power, what you want is aggregate power on your team… if we have a light hitting 1B, so be it, but we better be gettin above avg power from another spot.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Oct 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright

Good points Jay & Swo but I still believe that this would help the Braves. Notice I said Hicks or another SS prospect. Also this is something that I would only want to happen after Chipper is gone from the Braves and look for that after this coming season once Cox leaves, depending on who replaces him and of course Chipper himself has said that if he has another year like last season then he would hang um up for good. Now I do agree with both of you guys that we would need to have some power if we moved Yunel. Dan Uggla would be the best choice, he is RHB and he plays second. However we would then block Prado from a well earned full time starting second base position. Of course alot has to fall into place and we can spot blogging on it until Chipper is gone which I hope is a long, long WAY OFF.

Go Braves.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 20, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw where you said

Hicks or another prospect but what other prospect is there at this point? This is why I wish the Braves would’ve drafted Grant Green.

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we are worse off at shortstop than we are 3B. by moving escobar from SS we would be creating an even larger hole I would think. I like creative thinking but this is just moving the holes around and not fixing them.

by yondaime4 on Oct 20, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defensively

I think we would be much better with Hicks at SS and Esco at 3B but offensively there’s where we’d have our issues. Gambling on a guy like J.J. Hardy might not be so bad, he great defensively and if he could return to his 08 form he’d be a great addition. An IF of Chipper-1B, Prado-2B, Hardy-SS and Esco-3B would be nice. That way we could save money by not signing LaRoche and go after a Bay or Holliday and two BP arms.

by Jay212033 on Oct 20, 2009 8:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

do you think JJ is better than Yunel at SS?

I know what UZR says and it favors Yunel, but i don’t think UZR is an accurate description of Yunel’s defensive value.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Oct 20, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardy

I think you meant to say that UZR favors Hardy.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Oct 21, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes that is what i meant… sry

and you would favor Hardy defensively at SS?… interesting I think they are very similar… neither has great range, but IMHO Yunel has the better arm…although Hardy makes less mental errors…so it is a bit of a wash, notwithstanding the statistical argument

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Oct 21, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The numbers clearly prefer Hardy. I try not to put too much stock in visual assessment of fielding/range, since they’re so unreliable.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Oct 22, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Escobar has better range and a better arm than Hicks, even if Hicks is overall more fundamentally solid.

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by cbwilk on Oct 20, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a knock

On Escobar but more Chipper and his poor range.

by Jay212033 on Oct 20, 2009 10:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I was pointing out that between Escobar and Hicks, I’d take Escobar at SS and Hicks at 3B.

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by cbwilk on Oct 20, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree.

Hey look at our SS and 2B(easily converted guys) on the prospects list. we have a deep history of developing our own great middle infielders. We don’t have a great history of developing our own Corner infielders. No way we are worse by moving Escobar to 2b. Of course Chipper would have to be gone/retire and Hicks or “another SS prospect as I stated above” would have to be ready. But their is no way this would create two holes.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 20, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What

Who said anything about moving Escobar to 2B, I hope you meant 3B. Also If we move Escobar to 3B where he’d hit all of 15 HR per(if that) and Hicks to SS where he’d K 200+ times and maybe and I mean maybe hit 15 to 20 HR there would be not 1 guy who could hit 20+ HR with that IF. Chipper may have another 20 HR season in him but I doubt it.

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you're writing in Hicks for 200+ Ks?

He could get his strikeouts under control and become a fantastic player. Why don’t you wait and see what adjustments he can make in the next couple years before penciling him in for 200 strikeouts.

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That because

He’s already K’d 130+ times twice two full mL seasons there’s more evidence on Hicks and his K’s but with basically only 2 partial season on Hanson and Sanchez and 1 full season(stateside) on Linares they don’t have much of a track record yet unlike Hick.

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Esco’s power will come…i think he’d be perfectly capable of hitting 20-25 HR’s in a few years…and actually 15 homers is pretty average for a 3rd baseman…only about 7 or 8 hit over 20 homers…

by Hcgadawgs on Oct 21, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not moving Escobar but I meant was that we could draft guys that are 2B and easily covert them to 2b and likewise with SS. Sorry I wasn’t very clear my fault.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 21, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t say it would create two holes, I said it move our holes around and not fix any holes.

by yondaime4 on Oct 21, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re Linares, Sanchez & young Latin American players, generally, a point that is easy to miss is many of these players come into professional baseball straight out of impoverished third world conditions, with poor nutrition, little education, unable speak any english, frequently unable to even read spanish, and need time to adjust and acquire some basic life skills and capacity to function in modern culture. When they start feeling more confident and secure in the larger environment, there is a corresponding rise in their performance on the field of play.

by fandave on Oct 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You definitely saw that with Linares the second half of this year. When I talked with him the early part of the year he had that deer in the headlights look, but the second part of the year when I talked with him, he seemed really comfortable and had made huge progress at learning English. And you can see it in his numbers.

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by cbwilk on Oct 20, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So will he start the year in Myrtle or Mississipp?...

I’d expect next year to be a better gauge on his potential, especially once he slides over to Mississipp.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mississippi

He will definitely be there!

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not going back to MB, he’s proven he can handle that level. My guess is Mississippi, but if he has a good spring, given his age there’s no reason he couldn’t start out at Gwinnett.

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by cbwilk on Oct 21, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fine with not having depth at SS

because we have Yunel there, but this team is going to need to turn to a FA third baseman to replace Chipper whenever he hangs them up because there is NOTHING in this farm system at the position. The best case scenario for every guy seems to be below average.

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just looked at the 2011 3B FAs…it’s not pretty at all. From Cot’s:

Third Basemen
Garrett Atkins COL
Wilson Betemit CWS
Jorge Cantu FLA
Eric Chavez OAK *
Pedro Feliz PHI
Bill Hall SEA *
Brandon Inge DET
Maicer Izturis LAA
Mike Lowell BOS
Melvin Mora BAL
Nick Punto MIN *
Scott Rolen CIN
Ty Wigginton BAL

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Oct 21, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no it's not

which is one of the reasons we could be in big trouble. Hopefully we get at least enough out of Chipper to give us time to develop something decent.

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“The best case scenario for every guy seems to be below average.”

How can you say that on the young guys(Hanson, 20 and Sanchez, 18), without seeing what they can do at higher levels first?!?!

Also Linares played really well and has a chance to be average to above average at 3B.

You were the same person that said Escobar had poor range, he was not as good as Brent Lillibridge defensively or offensively and that Lillibridge would be named starter over him back in 08. So why not just wait and see on these kids first before saying that best case for every guy is below average.

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm talking realistically

sure there’s a very small chance that any one of those guys could become a good third baseman, but let’s face it, these guys were not high profile amateurs, weren’t drafted high. I’m not saying that there is no way that these guys can become anything more than below average, but the team has to plan like there is because chances are very high that that’s how it’s going to be. We’re pretty much devoid of any third base prospects.

And I’m sorry, but Linares at age 25 (is that a Cuban 25 or US 25?) didn’t impress in Myrtle Beach. There’s no reason at that age to think he is at all a viable option until he actually does something to show he is.

And as my last point, what’s the point of talking about prospects at all if we need to wait and see on all of them. Am I not allowed to say anything negative about any prospect until they retire from baseball or flop in the majors?

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Realistically?

The fact is 1 out of every – what – maybe 30 or 40 Minor League players ever plays a single inning in the Majors; and 1out of every – what – maybe 200 or 300 ever is named to a MLB All-Star team.

And then there are guys like Tommy Hanson, for example, who were not high profile amateurs or drafted high, but somehow turn out to be potential stars.

by fandave on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's kind of my point

And Hanson isn’t a great example because he was a draft and follow. When he was actually signed, scouts liked him a lot and he got very good money to sign.

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can speak your mind

I agree with you that the Braves do not need to sit back and wait and see if one of these guys pans out but to say that the best case for EVERY guy on that list without seeing what if they fail at higher levels is a bit harsh don’t you think?

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not harsh, it's realistic

I’m not going to say that every rookie level player who shows the slightest bit of life in the rookie leagues or short-A has the potential to be a viable major league starter because of the 1 mid-round drafted guy who does that ever five years.

If these guys prove me wrong (like in the case of Yunel), that’s absolutely fantastic. I love when that happens, but I want to have a meaningful discussion about our third base depth before 2011 when any of these guys reach the upper levels.

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So your saying

That the best case scenario for EVERY guy is below average just because they were not high round picks, haven’t put up great numbers yet or scouts haven’t been raving about them?!?! At least give them 2-3 years before calling a prospect below average not every kid is Tommy Hanson or Albert Pujols.

by Jay212033 on Oct 21, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

I’m saying let guys like that prove they are good enough to warrant being a legit prospect. The enormous majority of these guys end up doing nothing or at best being mediocre major leaguers so while you choose to let them prove that they aren’t going to be good, I’d rather see them prove they will so I’m not talking about 40-50 rookie-ball prospects who will never even have a decent minor league career every year. None of these guys has proven that they warrant even being talked about as a future candidate for third base at this point.

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re wasting your time. He does this with every Braves player. Martin Prado was nothing more than a utility player along with Yunel. HIs knowledge of baseball is not near what he leads you to believe. I’ve been in discussions with him before about this very thing. Tagging kids at rookie ball is silly, and for an amatuer to do it is ridiculous. Only a few will ever be ML players, so dumping on all of them is a pretty safe bet. You’ll be right more often than not. As for Linares, he hasn’t played organized ball for three years due to visa problems. It took him the first half to get adjusted again. Will he be a MLer? Don’t know yet. Next year will tell a lot.

by braves99 on Oct 21, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and when any of these guys shows anything that would give them any sort of legit prospect status

We’ll talk. Why is it so ridiculous to write these guys off until they show something?

R.I.P Jazz #6

by was385 on Oct 21, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish we could get Zimmerman from the Nats somehow…

"When life gives you lemons, just say 'F*ck the lemons,' and bail."

by Bravely going forward on Oct 21, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I got to go to a Nats game while I was in DC, Nats fans LOVE Zimmerman. He might be their only reason for living…

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by bwellnjonesco on Oct 21, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

he’s a local boy from UVa, and its extremely unlikely they deal the young cornerstone of their franchise.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 21, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about this ?

Zimmerman to the Braves

FOR

D. Lowe, Kelly Johnson, Jordan Schafer

Any takers ??

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Oct 21, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m thinkin it’d take something like…

Freeman, Schafer, Teheran..maybe more

by Hcgadawgs on Oct 21, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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