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By David O'Brien

January 8, 2009 2:27 PM | Link to this

Here’s a taste of Chipper’s comments to Jeff Schulz just a bit ago:

Asked how he felt about this, Chipper said: “I’m pissed. I’m really pissed.”

About his conversation with Smoltz last night:

“He went through the whole scenario with me. The underlying tone was extreme disappointment — and from my end it was shock. I could see anyone one else going somewhere before John Smoltz. He’s been one of the faces of this franchise for 20-some years. With all of the gambles that the Atlanta Braves have taken over the years on players, for a couple of million more dollars, you don’t gamble on John Smoltz when he tells you he’s going to be back?

“The one guy I would gamble on is John Smoltz. After everything that’s happened to this organization this winter, the players and the fans need something good to happen. I’ve been keeping up with the news. I’ve been reading the blogs. The one silver lining we had was John Smoltz being back in the lineup this year. We could have had that dominant guy back in the lineup. But we won’t – and for what, a couple of million dollars?”

 

 

nice. that's what we need. piss off chipper, who's a FA next year, and could have been likely to give us a hometown discount.. not a good day for us

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Alright, Chipper, fair enough. But you can say the same thing about Smoltz. After spending last season earning $14 million dollars to not contribute to the team and earn $130 million dollars over the course of his career, he’s going to alienate fans and continue to live in the shadow of other elite players who moved on to other teams late in their career for a few million dollars? Here’s your chance to shine and differ yourself from Maddux and Glavine – and you blew it.

by beeniez on Jan 8, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He reads the blogs?

If you google “Atlanta Braves,” TC shows up fairly easy. I wonder if Chipper’s read anything here?

I love Chipper’s candid and brutal honesty, always. But he seems to forget that us common everyday plebeians are not very sympathetic about professional athletes discussing whether or not they’re getting “a couple of million dollars.”

“I’m not worried about the money. I’ve made my money in this game.”

Now the question I’m feeling is, with all this being said, and the he’s stated that he’s seemingly pretty content financially for the future, how’s next season’s off-season going to pan out, when it’s his turn to look free agency in the face?

• Will he even get the chance, because the Braves will offer him, and he’ll accept, something fair, but probably less than what he’d be offered in free agency?
• Will he give the hometown discount, and immediately re-sign with the Braves to finish out his career?
• Will the Braves waffle around like they did with Smoltz, and force Chipper to look elsewhere, and like Smoltz, break the hearts of millions of more Atlanta Braves fans when he does?
• Or will Chipper Jones basically take back what he said about being worried about money, and take a generous offer from a good-on-paper potential contender?

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jan 8, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you don’t gamble on John Smoltz when he tells you he’s going to be back?

This is sounding more and more like we lowballed him, rather than he wanted to pitch for a contender. Unbelievable.

“I wonder if Chipper’s read anything here?”

I’m sure he has, he did a live chat on DOBs blog last offseason.

by TradeAndruw on Jan 8, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Response to Chipper

The rich get richer. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the bigger markets are crushing the smaller markets with these signings.

Ten or 15 years ago, we could lure people to Atlanta strictly on reputation. You can’t do that anymore. We can’t compete monetarily.

We just don’t have enough money to compete with the [big payroll] teams.

Just keep your mouth shut and go play your game.

Note: Taken from Chipper’s own words in the Sporting News interview.

Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball

by Yakker on Jan 8, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gordon Edes.

“The Braves would have paid Smoltz incrementally based on his health up to a maximum of $5 million if he remained on the major league roster for 60 days, and the guarantee was for no more than $3 million. The offer also included another $5 million in performance bonuses and $2 million in additional incentives. So Smoltz could have earned up to $12 million by staying healthy and pitching extremely well.” Smoltz will get $5M guaranteed from the Red Sox plus another $5M in incentives. Tell me again why the Braves are at fault here? This stinks of Glavine going to the Mets…

by ejruiz on Jan 8, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only $12 million? He’s got a family to support you know.

by Bobby Cocks on Jan 8, 2009 4:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good info. Seems to support the idea that he just wanted to play for a winner, which I’m thinking more and more is the case.

by cbwilk on Jan 8, 2009 4:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chipper seems to think differently, and he talked to Smoltz.

by TradeAndruw on Jan 8, 2009 5:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the reason people would be mad is because it is reported that FW offered him a minor league contract to start off and that is ridiculous. If I were Smoltz I would have probably left too with the way things have played out. In my opinion it is not about the money for Smoltz but the lack of respect he received with the initial offer.

by H0SS on Jan 8, 2009 6:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chipper.

If he wants to follow in the footsteps of Glavine and Smoltz, more power to him. Wouldn’t hurt us to deal him to an AL contender at the deadline if he’s not happy and not likely to hang around for much longer.

by ejruiz on Jan 8, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with Chipper here, it doesn’t insult me Smoltz wants to play for another team, it does insult me that he said he would be back and Braves fans could always, up until now, could depend on that. I guess we have all learned about the whole gentleman’s handshake this winter. I guess good luck Smoltz, thanks for the memories.

by bravesrbaseball on Jan 8, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally

this team might get pissed off enough to go out and play like they give a shit. That kinda fire has been lacking for about 8-10 years, so maybe now they will go out and play with the fire we see from other teams. Plus this might just make it easier to deal Chipper now, which sentimentality aside, is the best thing for the future of this club, and when I say these things, I say them as a huge Chipper Jones fan. His is the only jersey I have ever bought accross any sport.

by JFP on Jan 8, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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