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Around SBN: The Amateur Mathematics Of Linsanity

Here we go again. Though the article has no specifics, so I wouldn't read too much into the headline. Here is an interesting quote near the bottom of the article:

Only two pitchers in big-league history – Hall of Famers Walter Johnson and Ted Lyons – had pitched their entire careers with one team for as long as 21 years. Smoltz could have become the third, but instead is choosing the career arc followed by Hall of Famer Phil Niekro, who pitched 21 seasons for the Braves before signing as a free agent with the New York Yankees.

Shame... but then again, we really didn't hold it against Niekro.

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zomg fire frank wren he is so worthless derek lowe is old and has aids and an ugly wife he should trade chipper for like twelve gazillion prospects and that would be a bad deal even

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Jan 8, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Only 12 gazillion?

He’s worth at least a google, IMHO.

by Bobby Cocks on Jan 8, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston gets:
Chipper Jones
Frank Wren

Braves get:
Boston AAA team, AA team, Hi-A team, 12 pitching machines, David Ortiz, Theo Epstein.

Seem fair?

by mburris1 on Jan 8, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ill think we should ask for a bag of baseball… pitching machines dont run on hope

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Jan 8, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Gondee, what are you thinking about Smoltz?

You think its more related to competing for another title or do you think it’s money related? Did you see this coming or are you totally caught off guard?

by Bobby Cocks on Jan 8, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

He’s probably drunker than normal today.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 8, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Jan 8, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't blame him

Can’t blame him for wanting another ring. Boston is a team that WILL be in the playoffs, and he doesn’t see the braves getting there. Least he won’t be pitching against the braves.

by jjb5574 on Jan 8, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, God, I think I just died a little inside...

This cannot be defended. Lost out on Smoltz. Lets face it, if the Braves offer was anywhere near the BoSox offer, Smoltz would have been a Brave. Wren Blew it. And this one WAS all his fault. I defended him for walking away from Peavy. I thought we dodged a bullet by failing to get Burnett. Furcal wasn’t his fault. But Wren’s complete lack of ability to pull his head out of his ass on this one is disturbing at best.

Even if he gets Lowe, it will not make up for losing Smoltz.

by Andy Braves Fan on Jan 8, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

“Lets face it, if the Braves offer was anywhere near the BoSox offer, Smoltz would have been a Brave.”

I’m not so sure I’m buying that at the moment.

by Bobby Cocks on Jan 8, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Smoltz has been threatening to leave the Braves for a while now. I agree that it sucks, especially since we can’t seem to sign anyone, but he really didn’t seem to want to be a Brave and I was getting tired of listening to him.

by RosieSparkle on Jan 8, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Why Lowe?

At this point, why bother with Derek Lowe? We have lost on every front this off-season, why throw our money at a guy who might be pushing 40 at the end of his contract? Maybe it is time to swallow our pride like we spent the late 80’s doing, and go with the kids. I just don’t see spending the money it might take to sign what is left over when we probably are a below .500 team anyway.

by MurphyHOF on Jan 8, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

5:19pm: We’ve got a bit of a status update in Ken Rosenthal’s latest.

Fresh off closing the deal on Kenshin Kawakami, it seems as though the Atlanta Braves are the latest front runners in the Derek Lowe sweepstakes. Citing a source, Rosenthal says the Braves are “all over” Lowe. As for the team that was perhaps overtaken in this case, Rosenthal writes, “Mets officials seemed pessimistic.”

Any pending offer from Atlanta is not likely to include a fourth year, according to Rosenthal. However, an offer for three years in the $40-42MM range with a club or vesting option is “one possibility.”

by Bravofan on Jan 10, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

thats workable. i’d take it.

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Jan 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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