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Chipper trade options

I'd love to move him for another young pitcher to bring up alongside Hanson. So who needs a 3B or DH right now? Who has the young pitching?

The Angels lost their big bat in Teixeira, and they have a bevy of young pitching. Chipper and Guerrero would be a nice 1-2.

The Yankees have Matsui DH-ing, Chipper would be a major upgrade. Can you imagine that lineup with Chipper-ARod-Tex? Maybe we could pry Hughes away.

The Tigers could use Chip over Inge at 3rd or Sheff at DH. I don't know much about their minor league system.

The Red Sox could use Chip at 3rd and move Youk back to 1st and deal Lowell. I still like Buchhloz a lot.

Oakland could be a destination. Even though they signed Giambi, Chip would be a major upgrade over Chavez at 3rd. And Beane has a hard-on for OBP.

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If we trade Chipper this offseason, after losing Smoltz, losing out on Furcal, Burnett, Peavy, and possibly resigning Glavine and Lowe…

There’s a solid chance I might kill myself.

by iLukeisamazing on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

I would kill myself also.

We should do shots of ammonia together if he is traded. Then after the drinks, we should play laser tag with sub machine guns.

by nick9314 on Jan 8, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

its baseball. don’t you have anything else to live for? jesus christ

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Jan 8, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe...

…they are joking? just a thought, sometimes people do that….

by sddbaker on Jan 8, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Neither of us were joking… We’ve already got the cyanide, goodbye world…

/sarcasm?

by iLukeisamazing on Jan 8, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not like you have anything else to live for you sweaty ballsack

by jjcollins on Jan 8, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Bunch of morons on the blog today.

by get swoll yunel on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

+1

you can tell by the guy’s name that he’s been ready to jump ship for a while now. TradeAndruw can go be a Royals fan

by Bmacbandwagon on Jan 8, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Was I wrong about that?

We should’ve traded Andruw then and we should trade Chipper now. We’re not competing anytime soon and his future is at DH.

Sounds like you are the moron, my friend.

by TradeAndruw on Jan 8, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Why don’t we trade JJ and Gregor Blanco to the Falcons for Matt Ryan and the Falcons cheerleaders? They could use a good defensive center fielder and we’d be getting like 13 for 2!

I’m sorry for attacking your fandom, that was wrong. But I am getting sick of these crazy trade ideas that would never work. Chipper’s trade value is only high to us because we’re fans and see him play everyday. Yeah, he hits for average, but the only thing that teams see in Chipper is a health risk who’s 36 years old.

by Bmacbandwagon on Jan 8, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And no, you were not wrong about Andruw

Sorry, It’s been an emotional morning, I think it’s time to start drinking

by Bmacbandwagon on Jan 8, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

When was “then”?

Because the Braves needed Andruw to be competitive in 2007. His defense alone was very valuable.

by VictorW on Jan 8, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When will then be now?

It already happened.

When???

Just now.

by Fischerking on Jan 8, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

How has our chances to win decreased from Smoltz leaving? Anyone who was counting on him to lead this team to the postseason was not watching last season. We’ve gone from “there’s a slight chance Smoltz could be good” to “we won’t have Smoltz.” I’m sure Wren is ready to give up on the season and trade Chipper now that someone he wasn’t counting on at all is going to another team.

by 10-4 on Jan 8, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i like your thinking

seeing as we’re not actual gms, and this is all for fun, and thinking about trading chipper jones to the yankees for phil hughes isn’t fun, i’m not really gunna think about this.

but really, frankie boy oughta be thinking about it. anyone remember when we traded dale murphy? chipper just won a batting title at 36 and is a free agent after this year. doesn’t that just scream “trade me before it’s too late.”

that said, i don’t doubt our ability to resign him at a discount next year, and his worth as a teacher is probably immeasurable.

by chief glock&hummer on Jan 8, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

10-5

Chipper has effective No-Trade powers, does he not? Does he strike you like a guy that would want to play for the Yankees?

by ejruiz on Jan 8, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I actually agree with this now.

There is no way we contend this year. Chipper is a salary hog, yet he still produces. Lets get some more young talent and shape this team like the Marlins. Young studs coming together in their primes.

although, we’d need a third baseman, lol

by mrsoprano on Jan 8, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

like the marlins???… so we depress the fan base to the point the only reason people come to the stadium is for the after show entertainment. we trade away our young talent, build a team to win a championship and then trade it away within three months. This is not something i want to become… if we become the marlins… i have no qualms jumping ship… that is the worst franchise in the history of sports in terms of how they treat their fans. I wouldnt wish the fate of the Marlins upon any fan base.

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Jan 8, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank You.

I can’t stand that line of thinking. People think that the championships make it worth it, but they don’t wonder why no one show up for their games ever…

by ejruiz on Jan 8, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

for all the people that complain about the yankees and their spending (trust me i hate it as well), the biggest travesty is the Marlins

its a travesty, a sham, a mockery…. a traveshamockery

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Jan 8, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually have a buddy that's a Marlins fan

But he’s long stopped calling them the Marlins. Often he refers to them as the ATM, in reference to the Marlins being Jeffrey Loria’s personal ATM, since the team makes far more money in revenue sharing than they spend in payroll.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jan 8, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

My take

Some fans have a "we can’t possibly trade __________. That’s blasphemy. So, what happens? The icons decide on their own to move on down the road.

Any player has a right to move on if he wants to. It’s his life. Likewise, any team should have the right to trade any player if they think it helps them. Veteran players get 10/5 protection as part of collective bargaining.

Should the Braves trade Chipper? Chipper has value to a contender that needs one more player to put them over the top. This year if he stays a Brave, he will likely play well, get hurt, play well, get hurt, play well get hurt. While he’s out the Braves will probably lose a lot of games. The 09 Braves will be paying him whether he is in the lineup or not.

The Braves don’t have to trade Chipper. Instead they can wait until he’s a free agent and he either walks away or has very little value left as a major leaguer. Pay him a bunch of money to be loyal or trade him while he still has value and get some talent in return while shedding a big financial burden? What does your heart tell you? What does your head tell you?

Chipper still has 10/5 protection. He may not want to leave under any circumstances and that is his right. On the other hand, he might want one more last best shot at a ring. It might be in everyone’s best interest.

by niekromurphy on Jan 8, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

yuck

Seriously? Phil Hughes for Chipper? No thanks!

by KC Ryan on Jan 8, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

so why vasquez

i wouldn’t be opposed so much to the “rebuilding” project, but we already traded some of our best prospects (gilmore, flowers, AND lilly) to get a sub-.500 pitcher. This tells me that that wren is trying to field a team NOW. you can’t sell me both piles of bullshit.
I think the fucking moron is trying to build a losing franchise. Ownership is obviously pissed that nobody bought any tickets the last two times the braves made it to the postseason. Maybe Wren is just the scapegoat. Bottom line it this…….i’m not spending a dime on mlb for anything until the braves field a competitive team.

by Lee-Roy Jenkins on Jan 9, 2009 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

“Best” prospects? Sub-.500 pitcher? Good lord…

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 9, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m not spending a dime on mlb for anything until the braves field a competitive team

Wahooo! Hey everybody, this means we can safely go to games and not have to worry about running into JJCOLLI, er LEE-ROY JENKINS

"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST

by scstrato on Jan 9, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't say i wouldn't go

i said i wouldnt pay for it. i get the feeling they’ll be doing a lot of promos. BTW, it’s obvious that jj and i are not the same person. It happens that there are at least TWO people on this site that know what the fuck they’re talking about.

by Lee-Roy Jenkins on Jan 9, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Oh-no

We’re holding you to your statement, no wiggling out of it now. For the record, my reference was intended to point out how similar you two are (trollish behavior), not that you’re the same person. BUT it is VERY curious that you brought that up …

"Debated ya right not one person agreed with me" by ATLsportsfrk on Dec 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST

by scstrato on Jan 9, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re not the same guy. I can assure you of that one.

by cbwilk on Jan 9, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know him? Does he call you at home? DO YOU HAVE A DORSAL FIN?!?

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Jan 9, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ace Ventura reference?

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 9, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

buh-hing… guh-ho!

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jan 9, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

cbwilk said that Lee-Roy wasn’t JJ, so I was asking if he knew him.

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Jan 9, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice, I was trying to pull it off the top of my head. Just wanted to make sure I got it.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 9, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

for catching the reference!

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Jan 9, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen both guys a few times. I think LeeRoy actually lives around here. JJ really isn’t as insane and insensitive as he is on here.

by cbwilk on Jan 9, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Detriot

Tigers have a guy named Rick Porcello, they probably wouldn’t trade him for Chipper (or maybe they would I don’t know) but the guy is NASTY as hell.

"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"

by Falconzfan284 on Jan 9, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

why are you throwing out the name of the tigers top prospect for 3 months of chipper?

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Jan 9, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think the tigers would do it either. In his post he said he didn’t know anything about the tiger’s farm and he is the only guy I can think of off the top of my head.

"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"

by Falconzfan284 on Jan 10, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i honestly can’t think of any names either after the cabrera deal sucked their system dry. none of the names from last spring’s prospect book ring a bell either…haven’t heard anything much about any of their picks from this year either. so yeah. tigers really aren’t in much of a position to deal for anything

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Jan 10, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree and they have a fairly strong hitting team they just need pitching. So they wouldn’t be a canidate for aquiring chipper.

"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"

by Falconzfan284 on Jan 10, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

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