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Tom Glavine Pitching without discomfort

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Glavine throwing without discomfort

Veteran lefty hopes to begin pitching off a mound next week

 While attempting to fight the anxiety created by uncertainty, Tom Glavine is growing more confident about prolonging his storied pitching career.

Thoughts of retirement have diminished while he's enjoyed multiple pain-free throwing sessions over the past few weeks. But Glavine knows his true test will likely arrive next week, when he hopes to begin throwing off a mound.

"So far everything has been good," Glavine said early Monday evening. "I have certainly been encouraged with everything that I've done. But you really never know until you get on the mound and really let it go. Until then, I'm keeping my feelings in check."

When Glavine had his left elbow and left shoulder surgically repaired in August, it was impossible for him to ignore the possibility that he may never again have the opportunity to improve his career total of 305 wins -- the fourth-most victories for a left-hander in Major League history.

But motivated by the desire to not end his career in the injury-marred fashion that the 2008 season brought, the 42-year-old lefty dedicated himself to a rehab program that began reaping benefits in mid-December, when he began throwing without the discomfort that he'd experienced most of this decade.

Glavine began throwing from a distance of 120 feet just before Christmas and then took a few weeks off before resuming this exercise again on Monday. He plans to do this again on Wednesday and Friday, with the hope that he'll gain enough confidence to begin throwing off a mound early next week.

"My arm hasn't felt this good in a long time," Glavine said. "The day-to-day stuff that bothered me at this time last year isn't bothering me. That is obviously very encouraging."

Once Glavine begins exerting himself during these mound sessions, he'll provide himself and the Braves a better indication of what he's capable of doing during the upcoming season.

Barring the possibility that he's offended by a financial offer made by the Braves, Glavine has no desire to pitch anywhere other than Atlanta. Nor does he have the desire to go to Spring Training with a Minor League contract or any sense of uncertainty about his health.

Knowing that it does him no good to attempt to accelerate the process just to make sure he's ready by the start of Spring Training, Glavine will allow his arm to provide his timetable.

In the event that he's still not proven to himself and the Braves that he can pitch by the time camp opens, Glavine is prepared to remain in Atlanta to continue throwing until he reaches a point where it's obvious whether he's healthy or destined for immediate retirement.

"I don't have any interest in going to Spring Training to try to make the team or attempt to prove that I'm healthy enough to pitch," Glavine said. "I'll know before I go down there."

The pitching-hungry Braves remain interested in the possibility of re-signing both Glavine and John Smoltz, who is attempting to return from right shoulder surgery.

But for now, they can only monitor their progress and hope that these organizational icons are able to enjoy at least one more season in Atlanta together, minus the injuries that ruined last season's reunion.

Regarded as one of the most determined pitchers to stand on a mound, Glavine made 672 starts and compiled 4,361 1/3 innings before making his first career trip to the disabled list last season. A torn flexor tendon in his left elbow would necessitate two more trips and lead to the August surgical procedure, during which Dr. James Andrews also cleaned some tissue around the veteran hurler's left labrum.

To provide himself a chance to pitch or even enjoy the game of touch football that he shared with his sons on Monday afternoon, Glavine had to have his elbow surgically repaired. The cleaning of his shoulder provided the opportunity to avoid some of the discomfort that has been present for most of the past two decades.

Many of the Braves have often talked about the shoulder pain that Glavine regularly ignored when he religiously took the mound during the 1990s. In fact, during his retirement address last month, Greg Maddux took time to once again recognize this dedication.

"One of the biggest things I learned pitching with Glavine was to realize you don't have to be 100 percent to win," Maddux said. "You have to take the ball and you have to go out there. That's what he taught me.

"Sometimes it's really easy to say, 'I need another day or two.' But in Atlanta, we pitched. Tommy led the way with that. He showed everybody that if you go out there, if you could throw the ball over the plate, you had a chance to win, no matter how bad you felt."

For the first time in his recent memory, Glavine is actually feeling good and realizing that it's far too early for him to begin worrying about the possibility that he's already thrown his final pitch.

"[Retirement] has crossed my mind," Glavine said. "I think I've prepared myself to deal with that question. But in my mind I want to pitch, and that's why I haven't retired."

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I’d rather have re-signed Hampton, but I’m warming up to the idea of Glavine coming back. Lowe isn’t 16 times better than Glavine, which is about what the pay difference would be, to say nothing of the contract length. Sheets I would still like for a 1-2 year deal.

Would this rotation really be so bad? You have a lot of guys giving quality starts, though not many complete game shutouts.

Vazquez
Jurjjens
Smoltz
Glavine
Campillo

And the usual suspects battling for spot starts and filling in for injuries. And there will be injuries.

by TradeAndruw on Jan 6, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lowe
Vazquez
Smoltz
JJ
Campillo/Glavine/Morton

or

Kensai
Vazquez
Smoltz
JJ
Campillo/Glavine/Morton

by Charmin519 on Jan 6, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When will he start pitching without giving up runs?

Seriously, I really don’t want to resign him.

by iLukeisamazing on Jan 6, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 6, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

he gave up runs because he was HURT. but i guess you also think we shouldn’t think about signing smoltz.

obviously, you’re a newbie who doesn’t understand that having glavine and smoltz on a pitching staff is like having 2 more pitching coaches for the young ones coming up (i’m thinking Hanson and Melden). and with the pitching coach we have, i would prefer to have as many good minds on that rotation as possible.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jan 7, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How can Glavine coach Hanson when he is taking his roster spot. Glavine is as good as done and I wish people would stop bringing up his name.

by That a boy on Jan 7, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dig how the Braves seem to be slowly moving towards keeping pretty much the same roster they had last year. Are we trying to role the dice again and see if it works this time?

When Glavine did pitch last year he was pretty terrible, and his fastball was consistently in the 81-82 range. And he’s old as ball and getting older. Signing him doesn’t make any sense to me.

by get swoll yunel on Jan 6, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Glavine for 1 year/4 mil.
Smoltz for 1 year/6 mil.

I’d do it.

by beeswax on Jan 6, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pedro Martinez
Livan Hernandez
Andy Pettitte
Smoltz
Glavine

Jurjjens needs more time in the minors. Campillo can be a RH LOOGY.

by Land-Man on Jan 6, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why does Jurjjens need more in the minors?

by Brandonba on Jan 6, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So he can learn from Teheran.

by Land-Man on Jan 6, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There are so many things wrong with that rotation it’s not even funny.
Pedro- Should not be an ace this isn’t the 90’s.
Hernandez- I don’t hate because he is an inning eater, but look at his WHIP, ERA, W/L %, his OBP against him is abismal, if you want more on him I got some but you get my drift.
Pettite- He is not worth the money plain and simple.
Smoltz- I’d love to have him back, but coming back from shoulder surgery at his age you can not depend on him.
Glavine- Alot of people on this site like him alot but IMO he is DONE!
Jurrjens- He did struggle the 2nd half of last year, but he sure as hell doesn’t need more time in the minors. He was fatigued because he wasn’t used to such a long season, not to mention he is our projected ace this year.

"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"

by Falconzfan284 on Jan 6, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHYYYYYYYYYYYY SO SERIOUS

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Jan 6, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it was a joke. i laughed.

by FYFs LOBs on Jan 6, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry we BC students have no sense of humor. :-)

"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"

by Falconzfan284 on Jan 7, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was funny.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 7, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So would that make him a ROOGY? Is that an Engrish LOOGY?

by soup du jour on Jan 6, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

scooby dooby dooooo!

best defensive shortstop in baseball hahahahahahahahahah (omar visquel)

by mvandonsel on Jan 6, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are u serious land-man. Ha ha that is a good joke!!! First you put Pedro then you say Jurjjens needs more time in the minors hmmm. Livan Hernandez hell no, Glavine double hell no.

by That a boy on Jan 6, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think our chances of contending this year

are almost non-existent anyways. I had to be a downer, but it really doesn’t matter to me if Glavine comes back. I think we land in 4th either way

by eaheckman10 on Jan 7, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please do not bring back Glavine unless it’s a managerial position.

I think Glavine would make a great coach.

by Sparhawk on Jan 7, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Greg Maddux for Atlanta Braves Pitching Coach 2010

I’ve no problems with McDowell. But Mad-Dog did allude to being interested in coaching in a year or two at his retirement. Besides we need someone in the dugout to drop F-Bombs loud enough that the can be heard on the radio broadcasts once Cox retires.

by Euruproktos on Jan 7, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Glavine can give us 190 innings with an ERA below 4.25 or so, he’d be worth 3-5 million. Hell, why not. If we’re not gonna get Kawakami or Lowe, screw it. I’d rather watch Glavine suck than watch Jo Jo suck.

by Weldon on Jan 7, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if he gave us that he’d be worth a lot more than 3-5 million.

by soup du jour on Jan 7, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

This fascination with former Braves has got to stop. Glavine is at best replacement level for 2009, and at worst closer to a -1 win pitcher.

If ATL signs Glavine, the best case scenario is that he hurts himself again in spring training and promptly retires. If Glavine pitches any meaningful innings for the 2009 Braves he is likely to destroy value rather than create it.

Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball

by Yakker on Jan 7, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“If ATL signs Glavine, the best case scenario is that he hurts himself again in spring training and promptly retires.”
—Yakker

“I don’t have any interest in going to Spring Training to try to make the team or attempt to prove that I’m healthy enough to pitch,” Glavine said. “I’ll know before I go down there.”
—Tom Glavine

See what I did there?

by Euruproktos on Jan 7, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Um

No, actually I don’t.

Was it sarcasm? I suck at sarcasm.

Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball

by Yakker on Jan 7, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah me either Euruproktos what does that shit mean any way. Glavine said that he was healthy last year is he going to say he is healthy again. The truth is he is old as shit he is throwing soft toss and they are going to have a field day on his 79 mph fastball.

by That a boy on Jan 8, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jamie Moyer

gets by with a 37 mph fastball

by eaheckman10 on Jan 8, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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