HeLowe heLowe heLowe!!!
by traphicg on Jan 18, 2009 2:00 PM EST
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I know i havent been around much at all in several months, but I finally took some time to read up a LOT about Lowe, the Smoltz sitch, and even back to Furcal. So, i feel up to date and ready to go. I wanted to drop a piece about Lowe, and maybe someone will holler back.
I'm very pleased with this deal. I'm impressed with Lowe's attitude, despite being a Boras client, and he seems appreciative that the Braves just basically gave him whatever money ol' Scotty wanted. So with that, I am confident he'll bring good rapport and very good clubhouse assistance, leadership, etc... he was always a class-act guy, and you felt like you rooted for him from afar. I remember switching to alot of those dodgers games when AJ, Furcal, and Betemit were playing, and Lowe was a good dude to see up there.
Compared to the other options, i'm VERY happy. Peavy was a blown deal and a disaster from the get go, and on the Braves homepage, he breaks it down really nicely about the costs and years per Burnett, Peavy, and Lowe. It seems like we paid what we could expect, but ended up SAVING money, and guaranteeing LESS years than we almost had to. It seems great!!
Almost done - Smoltz leaving is sad as hell, but its not so clear who's "really" being the "baby" in this. Lowe can bring good leadership and skills, similar to Smoltzie. And if he's still trucking away the way he was until recently, Lowe should be able to continue his regimen and stay healthy for this contract.
And, hello??!!?!?? What about when Huddy comes back? If all goes well, we would have the two best sinkerballers in the MLB! Our 1-2 punch would be great, and game time would probably average 2 hours!!
But the final point comes back to his attitude. If pitchers go to the Yankees, it would'nt have been a good match with us anyway. Perhaps i'm sour grape-ing the AJ and Peavy, or doing the opposite with Lowe, but I just feel good about this whole offseason all of a sudden.
Go Larry....
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I didn’t even think about Lowe being a Boras client. Maybe this signing can lead to a more fruitful relationship between the Braves and Boras. I don’t necessarily like the man, but he’s a ncessary evil.
by Bobby Cocks on Jan 18, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well, after the furcal fiasco
Boras is pretty much one of 2 remaining major agencies that atlanta can deal with. Boras may be financially ruining the game, but at least he isnt dirty. Tellum’ agency can just suck it.
"Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill -
by justincredubil02 on Jan 18, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
Boras’ relationship with Wren is the complete opposite of his relationship with Shuerholtz…as in, Wren doesn’t want to strangle Boras.
Boras may be all about the $$$, but I don’t think he’d pull a Paul “Douchebag” Kinzer with a signed term sheet.
by Rafael Belliard's SLG % on Jan 18, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree.....
I never was a fan of Boras but I came to realize he’s not the bad guy! Boras always wants to get the most money out of his clients which is completely fine becuase thats an agents job. I also like the fact we signed a “Boras Client” somethiing we were never inclined of doing when John was the GM. Its a good thing because as we all know Boras clients are probably the best baseball players out there and he’s Jair Jurrens agent. The real snake is Paul Knizer and Arn Tellern agencies. What does guys did was a crime and they should of gotten fined for. Scott Boras is back on my good side. Now get Manny!!
by AlRoBraves95 on Jan 18, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"we would have the two best sinkerballers in the MLB!"
When did we get Brandon Webb?
by TradeAndruw on Jan 18, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That means the Braves have Roy Halladay AND Brandon Webb. AWESOME!
by VictorW on Jan 19, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Braves dealing with Boras was a last act of desperation, but whatever as long as they find us a power source we can contend with the extra wins our three new pitchers will provide.
by bravesrbaseball on Jan 18, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OT
Arizona, please beat the shit out of the Eagles. I can’t watch them win a WS and SB in the same year. Thank You.
by TradeAndruw on Jan 18, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats going pretty well so far.
Lets just hope for a full blown Pennsylvania collapse today
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Jan 18, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, too bad
No Baltimore Ravens in the Super Bowl. Somewhere in Tampa, club goers breathe a sigh of relief knowing that they won’t get stabbed and murdered by Ray Lewis the day before the Super Bowl.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jan 19, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, instead they’ll be crippled by whatever the hell the name of the others Steelers safety is.
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Jan 19, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait Boras the guy that has single handedly ruined the draft process is a good guy. The guy that has did more to widen the gap in salary than anyone other than George Steinbrenner is a good guy? The guy that would allow Teixiera to sign long term with the Braves is a good guy? Wow people are weird.
by rocket8188 on Jan 18, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t blame Boras, blame the players union. He’s trying to get his clients the most money possible. Its not his fault that the owners are too fucking dumb to demand a strict slotting system.
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Jan 18, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your Wrong Rocket8188
Why are you blaming boras? Blame the GM’s who are signing these players. Boras doesnt have a gun to these ppl’s heads. Remember that. If you were a basball player I am sure you’ll be calling Boras to represent you..I know I will…
by AlRoBraves95 on Jan 18, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
AIRoBraves95
Your right on, Boras is just doing his job. It’s absolutely the owners fault for signing these guys to ridiculas contracts. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t the agent get 10% of what the players make. Why wouldn’t Boras try to make the owners spend more then they want to. Don’t criticize the guy for doing his job. I’m not a huge Boras fan because he is the owner of every major league player, but I do respect him…..ALOT.
"The only time the Mets win is in the offseason"
by Falconzfan284 on Jan 18, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So by your theory, don’t blame the slave owner for having slaves , he is just using the sytem to the best of his abilities? Not a racism thing, I guess a better idea would be the wealthy evading taxes by bribery and government loopholes. But because the system is flawed doesn’t mean you can’t blame the participants.
And while I’ll admit the owners are too dumb to fix the draft system and free agency, is it is ok for Boras to use underhanded tactics as a means to exploit the faults of the system? I guess some would say that is his job and I never said it wasn’t, I simply believe that he is a crummy person in the same boat as Furcal’s agent.
Corrections to the earlier post. He didn’t single handedly ruin the draft process but he is aiding to it become a joke. I meant wouldn’t let Teixiera sign long term but I guess you all got that. And ALRo how much money does a man need to be happy?
by rocket8188 on Jan 19, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
u almost suckered me into a governmental tax argument but alas i will refrain….damn TC political rules
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
by Swo12bv on Jan 19, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Explain to me what his “underhanded tactics” are. Denying offers? Asking for more money?
He’s a lawyer. He finds loopholes. If the owners are too dumb to seal every hole in the CBA, Boras will find it.
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Jan 19, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s obviously asking for more money. Baseball needs to go back to a time where players were told how much they made and they liked it.
by VictorW on Jan 19, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You aren't "evading" taxes...
…if there is a “loophole”.
by sddbaker on Jan 19, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god, I didn’t even notice the EVADING TAXES line.
Does this dude know that pretty much all major league players are in the highest tax bracket, no matter how much they make?
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Jan 19, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pedro Alverez thing was kinda shady? And about the other thing I was just saying because a system is flawed does that mean there is no fault with the people that exploit that system.
by rocket8188 on Jan 19, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes… they arent exploited the system they are working within the system… ur projecting your idea of how the system should be unto Boras. You think he should act in accordance with a good system. If he were doing something illegally that would be different, but he is acting within the confines of the system and is great at manipulating owners into doing something they shouldnt be doing (namely spending 200M on players).
I dont mean to be an ass and call you out, your not the only person who thinks this way.
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
by Swo12bv on Jan 19, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great thought.. On answering your question, on how much money does it take to make a person happy? There’s no right answer. Everyone is different and confortable to a certain degree, that’s what makes people special. Some players dont mind a $4million dollar a year deal, others like Manny need more then $20 a year to be satisfied. We all thought A-Rod was comfortable with $252 million dollar contract, wouldnt you? But he came back and signed a bigger one a few years later. We all have our comfort level and in that line of business as a pro baseball player, the skys the limit.
by AlRoBraves95 on Jan 19, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also you have to remember that there is tremendous pressure from MLBPA. they want each player, especially the top tier guys to get the biggest contracts they can because it sets the stage for the lower level guys… if AROD accepts a 20M contract he may be happy, but then Aramis cant make his 20M(just using him as an example not saying thats his contract), MLBPA wants to make sure everyone is getting a maximum contract even if the player would be happy with a lesser deal. also with so many of these guys they dont even care about the money, they equate respect with money. so if you dont give them the biggest contract they thinks its disrespectful…. Like last year Prince Fielder was all upset because he only got 800k, when technically the Brewers didnt have to increase his contract at all, they could have offered league minimum and thats what he woulda got.
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
by Swo12bv on Jan 19, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I can Tell when I'm Wrong
It’s been fun but I guess I have to concede victory. Always good to have a good discussion and get your ass handed to you.
by rocket8188 on Jan 20, 2009 4:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i respect that you can admit that you may be wrong… much appreciated and golf clap to you sir
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
by Swo12bv on Jan 20, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im waiting to see another braves yankees world series
by steeeeezzzzz on Jan 19, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
“he was always a class-act guy, and you felt like you rooted for him from afar.”
Especially when he left his wife and two kids for then FOX Sports Net West reporter Carolyn Hughes (also married at the time).
Look, I won’t deny that all most of us really care about is on-field performance (and all of us I would think agree that it comes first in the list in all but the most extreme of conditions (i.e. the death of Marcus Giles’ premature daughter). Isn’t it a shame though that we lose a man like Smoltzie that everyone could really look up to rather than guys like Chipper and DLowe?
PS – Before I get piled on here, everyone makes mistakes and I’m not condemning Chipper, Lowe, or anyone else to hell. And there’s still a lot of ‘good guys’ to root for in Atlanta (McCann, Frenchy, Diaz and for now Glavine as examples). I just really don’t know that Lowe has ever been anyone I thought of as a “class act”.
"Why do they sing 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' when they're already there?'" - Larry Andersen
by HailStonz on Jan 19, 2009 9:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll root for FYF when he pulls his head out of his ass.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Jan 19, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the big issue with this...
is that we simply don’t know these people. For all I know, John Smoltz may frequent houses of ill repute in Atlanta. I doubt it, but I cannot be sure that he doesn’t. I think that generally it’s a terrible idea to make role models out of public figures for that very reason.
by BraveBronco0121 on Jan 19, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure...
I’ve read some people’s descriptions of his mannerisms and stuff like that, but, the bottom line, is that if Bobby likes this guy, he’s a class act. And, maybe i’m wrong, and if I am, i’ll rethink things, but i thought Bobby made a point of going to the clubhouse for the Lowe meeting, to help reassure, etc…
I agree, also, that FYF and Mac are the guys the kids in the area are going to look up to, i mean, FYF just said he’s a “son of gd first and an athlete later” or something, and Mac is exactly the corn-fed type of dude you want to see out there. But in the clubhouse, its nice to have another hard worker, solid pitcher, who cares about his team and doesnt act like a douchebag all the time.
by traphicg on Jan 19, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So
You’re saying that you consider Booby “wife beater” Cox as the best judge of one’s character.
by JFP on Jan 20, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya because its fair to judge someone’s character on an act of indescretion
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
by Swo12bv on Jan 20, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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