Slow day at work and I have some questions for those of you who have taken baseball road trips...
So first off I would like to apologize for the length of this post and the fact that it doesn't directly deal with the Braves, but it does deal with baseball, so I thought I would give it a shot. T
This last year has been pretty crazy for me and I really want to take a kick ass baseball road trip during the summer of 2009.
My original idea was to drive myself, leaving Sacramento the end of July and hitting up Denver, Kansas City (and the Negro League Hall of Fame), St. Louis, Cincinnati, Chicago, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Cooperstown, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC, Boston, and then back to New York. In New York I would sell my car and fly back to California three weeks later in the middle of August.
My second idea was to fly into Kansas City, rent a car and do the exact same trip, returning the car in New York when I am done.
Now with both of these options I would have to budget for food, gas, hotels, whatever other crap I might buy, I would have to buy my own tickets (which might be hard with the new New York Stadiums and in Boston), plus I would have to drive myself (because I cannot seem to find anybody who wants to go). Basically I think it would be relatively hard to know what I am going to spend before going on the trip
The other option I have would be to go on a tour through this company, Broach Sports Tours. Has anybody heard/used them? If you have what did you think? This trip would be shorter than mine from August 13-29th. I would fly into Cincinnati, then travel to St. Louis, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, DC, New York, Boston, New York, and finish in Baltimore.
Now this option includes: Deluxe Motorcoach, Hotels, Game Tickets, Tours (Chicago, Washington, NYC, Boston and Philly), Admission to the Louisville Bat Factory and the Cooperstown, and a tour of Fenway. This would cut down on most of the things that I would have to arrange, I would not have to drive, and I would know what I am going to spend (except food and whatever crap I might buy). However, I don't know how good the tickets are, I don't know who I would be traveling with, and I would be on somebody else's schedule.
On the trip I put together I would make it to 16 stadiums (I could not schedule Detroit). On the tour I would make it to 15 stadiums including Detroit (but not Denver or Kansas City) plus I would not get to see the Negro League Hall of Fame, but I would get to go to the Louisville Bat Factory.
I am asking y'all because I value your opinions as knowledgeable baseball people, and I know that some of you have lots of experience planning these types of trips. Which option would you choose? Why? Is there an option that I am not considering? Last question, does anybody else want to go???
Thanks for your help!
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It is worth it
Not to toot my own horn, but I did the whole thing, all 30 parks, in 2007. You’ve picked a good route with great parks, and the same route I took. I hate to pander the unfinished product, but law school interrupted me before I could finish it all. www.ballparkquest.com
The only advice I’d give you is to buy Bosox tickets early, consider China Buses for travel between NY, DC, Philly, and Baltimore, and realize you won’t find parking in the Big apple.
Cooperstown is a clutch inclusion, as well.
You did all of them in one year!!!
WOW!! That is awesome!
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Oh yeah...
whats a China Bus?
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Bus routes
That only travel from the respective Chinatowns from those listed major cities – DC, Philly, New York, Boston. Fairly cheap, but questionable comfort.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
oh ok...
that sounds like an experience in itself!!
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Dear Pujols
I like my baseball trips sure, but I only tackle 3-5 + random minor league parks a season, and I’ve only been doing it for the better part of three seasons.
The one giant variable I see in your original plan is the car-selling aspect. That does not have a set time-table, and could cause you a lot of headache, if can’t make what you’re expecting to get from it, and/or cannot sell it quickly, because everyone is out to low-ball the snot out of you. And if you run into some bad car problems along the way, that is going to tank the resale value real fast. But the concept of being able to take your time and go at your own pace is liberating and appealing to someone like me, and holds a great deal of weight in weighing the options.
I’ve never heard of Broach, but I’ve known people who have done Jay Buckley Baseball Tours. It’s comforting to know that they’re doing a lot of the legwork for you, but anyone with a calculator, resources, and the drive could easily replicate a similar tour for significant savings, provided that they don’t mind doing their own driving.
Suggestions: Plan a set amount of what you want to spend for each game. Realize you might have to spend a night in your car if things get hairy. Get your Red Sox tickets in advance, nowhere else warrants the necessity. Have a good bit of fallback funds, and perhaps set aside an allocated amount ahead of time, so you don’t just kick back and drain a bank account.
Take a look at this site, and if you can, try and read through their experiences or try to get in touch with them yourself. They did all 30 parks plus the College World Series in a 2-3 month span. The most striking thing I get from their experience is that they preach the power of generosity and actual good, unafraid people willing to accommodate out there.
I’d say I’d join you on some of your travels, but I tend to do things last minute, or with little preparation. I have flight privileges, so I can get away with it, so nothing is set in stone. I also watch the schedules and try to lump teams with their home/departure times. Like Houston/Texas, or Detroit/Milwaukee/Chicago/Chicago/Cleveland/Cincy, or Florida/Tampa Bay, etc.
Regardless, good luck to you. Take a camera, and take a bajillion pictures, because the pursuit of the great American game is a fun and memorable one.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Thanks for the advice and links...
I am shying away from the selling my car option for the very reason that you stated; however, it is super expensive to rent a car in one city and return it to a different city. Anyways, you are always welcome to join on part of the trip if I end up doing this!
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Sounds awesome. Personally, I can’t give much advice on the specifics of your trip. I’ve never tried something that long. I tend to get crazy after about a week and a half, no matter how much I love baseball (Just another reason why players are amazing to me, these guys are on the road for the whole season).
But, I will say, you should make a go of it yourself and not on someone else’s schedule. You’re covering a huge part of the country and there might be a million things you want to do that would never be on a tour schedule. And, you have the freedom to go longer or stop whenever you want.
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I’ve never done a professional tour, and I’ve never done something as ambitious as that plan…when I was a kid, my dad and I would pick one “region”, and hit up all the parks in the given area.
Past examples…
MIDWEST: Chicago x2, Cleveland, Pittsburgh
NORTHEAST: NY x2, Philly, Boston, Montreal
WEST COAST: SF, Oakland, LA x2, Arizona
Doing more than like 5 parks in a trip can get a little much, with a TON of driving. The drive from Chicago to Pittsburgh was I think 10 hours, from LA to SF was about 7 I think. Phoenix to LA was also about 4 or so, and Boston to Montreal was 5. If you like driving and think you could do it, go ahead…but I highly advise against it.
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I’ve been on baseball trips the last three years. In 2005 we flew into Vegas then drove to San Diego, saw a Padres game. Next day we drove to LA and saw a Dodgers game, then on to Vegas that night. We stayed in Vegas and saw a 51s game (McDowell was the pitching coach then), we also did some gambling and visited Hoover dam. We then drove to Salt Lake City and saw a Stingers game, and visited Zion National Park. Then we went to Denver, saw a Rockies game. From there we went to Albuquerque and saw an Isotopes game. Then across to the Grand Canyon, taking in all the National Parks along the way. From the GC we went down to Phoenix and saw a D-Backs game. Then came back to LA and saw an Angels game, seeing Joshua Tree NP along the way. Then we headed back to Vegas and flew home. It was 3500 miles in 10 days, and worth it.
I’ve also done some other smaller trips including two last year. Here are some of the rules I try to follow:
- Try to make giant circles and finish in the same place you start if you’re renting a car. It’s amazingly cheaper to return a rental car to the same place you got it.
- Don’t forget about trains and Amtrak. It’s really cheap and you don’t have to do any white knuckle driving in unfamiliar areas. I’m planning a trip this year where I go from Detroit to Chicago to St. Louis to KC all via train — you’d be surprised how accessible most big cities east of the Mississippi are.
- Pretty much anywhere that the Yankees, Cubs, and Red Sox aren’t playing, get scalped tickets. If you know what you’re doing you can get great deals. Do your research by googling scalped tickets for each team.
- Leave time for something other than baseball. Use a baseball trip as an excuse to see the country, its cities and and its parks.
- Remember that stadium tours are some of the best things to do, but you have to get there early, so don’t try and compress your trip into too few days.
- See some minor league games and parks. They are a good contrast to the major league stadiums and often have much better food.
I’m sure I could write another 10 pages on things to do and things to avoid and possible trips to take. I’m always planning then and keeping them in my back pocket in case good airfare comes around. I’ve got about 10 more parks and I will have seen every one.
Thanks for the tips...
I looked in to Amtrak trains, but I thought it was expensive. I mean Boston to NY $62, NY to Philly $45, Philly to DC $45. While more stressful I thought that it would be cheaper to drive. Perhaps I am wrong, I will look into it more.
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Amtrak alternatives
The regional rail trains are a cheaper alternative to Amtrak for travel in the northeast. These trains run between Philly (officially called SEPTA) and NY (officially called NJ Transit) and are half the price. I ride these all of the time when going to NY. Not as nice as Amtrak, but certainly better than the Chinatown buses (unless you enjoy sharing a ride with some poultry!). And don’t forget, if you decide to see games in this region, the Nats and Orioles are only 2 hours south of Philly.
Best of luck!
by aaaaandTheBravesWin on Jan 17, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Dude’s got Pascual Perez as his avatar! You can’t take any advice from him on direction!
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Yeah, I guess they can be pricey between some northeast cities, but there are other regional train options, though I’ve gotten cheaper prices than you quoted above. What I take into account with Amtrak is that you’re saving on gas and any parking fees as well as all the other crap that rental car companies throw at you above their quoted price. On an Amtrak train I can get ready for the next destination by reading the guide book or catching up on sleep so I can hit the bars after the game. Driving on US interstates is soooo boring to me.
Ahhhh...
I never really though of parking fees. I should have though, I go into San Francisco quite a bit, and they hammer you. Thanks!
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KC Rocks
I am from the deep south and saw games for years at the launching pad and at the TED. I live in Kansas City now and Kauffman stadium in KC is a beautiful place to catch a game. They are spending 250 million dollars renovating the park this offseason and next as well so it should really be nice. The field kind of sits down below everything else around the stadium and there are beautiful fountains in left field. You can get field box seats on the first row just one section down from the dugout for about 30 bucks. Or if you wanna go cheap you can get seats above the fountain in left field for $7 or upper level seats down either line for as low as $9.

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