A Whole Lot of Crazy Last Night

by gondeee on Sep 3, 2008 9:12 AM EDT in Game Recaps Comment 119 comments

I kept switching back and forth to the game last night, each time wincing to see what the latest score was. Quite an unbelievable game, and rather historic as well:

The last time the Braves won a game despite giving up 14 runs was July 23, 1951, against the Pirates, and the franchise was located in Boston.

The game also led to possibly the best quote Bobby Cox has given in a loooong time. This one is quite Yogi Berra-esque:

"If you're going to play those, you're better off being on the winning side."

On the mound, I hated to see Charlie Morton be given such a huge lead and then walk out the next inning and blow it. I still don't know what to make of Morton's future as a starter... I doubt the Braves do either.

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I actually played video games after it became an 10-9 game thinking “i know where this is going.” I turned back over after an hour or so, and it was only the 6th or 7th, 13-13. Went back to play more. Flipped back later, and it was 14-13, so i watched the rest. It didn’t exactly feel historical, but at least they won.

It was extremely frustrating watching Morton not be able to go 5, or 4 for that matter. None of these young guys (minus Jurrjens) are staking a claim for a rotation spot next year, and i ’m sure Wren is thrilled about that (Offseason checklist: left fielder, 4 starting pitchers. No problem!) I think at the most, one rotation spot should go to Morton, JoJo, and Campillo next year. As things have gone the past few years, they end up in the rotation anyway b/c of injuries.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Campillo has sucked something awful lately, but I don’t think it’s fair to lump him in their with Morton and Reyes.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Sep 3, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

^----

Campillo is a legit big league pitcher. He’s a little gassed form the innings, as he’s missing/hanging more pitches. But he also needs to make adjustments cause everyone is sitting back on the offspeed stuff. Maybe bring in the 88 MPH heat a little more often.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So crazy...

no game thread today?!

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No kidding! I’m actually around today, but alas…

BTW Yunel Vidro’d. Weird.

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, I just have radio in the office, but am DVRing it for viewing later.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't we come up with a new one..

..for Vidro since he’s no longer playing after Seattle DFA’d him?

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by RainDelay on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I thought so but I can’t remember what it is for the life of me. So I decided to stick with the ol’ standby.

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Molina I think

I still prefer Vidro

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

After the series in Washington

It may as well be “Yunel-ing”

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sad but true

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Rev off to a good start, looking to solidify his 2009 rotation spot…

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Watch

Today’s game be like 3-1 with maybe 8 combined hits.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If we get the three, that’s cool with me. I know we’ve lost hope, but it’s still nice to get some wins and remember what it feels like.

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hope for a successful season, perhaps

But I’m always hoping for a good game . . .

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

very good point

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your optimism (that the 3 will be ours) scares me a little…
Hoping it will be, though!

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anybody hearing Pete?

talking about all the player having “guides” to take them to the park individually instead of on the team bus…sheesh.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that makes more sense

i’ve been thinking he’s been saying “guy” “we need a guy”.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok,they are saying "guy"

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear it now

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cut 'em

Use that money towards paying talent. For the matter, cut the toilet paper budget at the Ted, and be like UGA and encourage patrons to conserve flushes. “If it’s yellow, let it mellow, if it’s brown, flush it down”

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha ha ha, and

Riding the bus encourages ‘bonding’, and discussion of strategy…no?

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ever since Jocks & Jills went under...

The Braves need to hire their shuttle bus driver. They would never ever get anywhere late, and the fun of the rides might make the players relax and unwind a bit.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone applying for "the guy"?

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would if I still had my first car...

a 1976 wine colored (ok, purple) AMC Pacer. yeeeaaahhh.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And no, I’m not that old…it was!

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mine was a 1984 Pontiac Parisienne

It was four years younger than me. I could fit Pete, Joe, Chip, Boog and his hair, Jake, and the Lemmer, and still have room for their bags. Man could that car do donuts.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha ha ha ha! I also had an ’86 Olds Delta 88 at one point, so I know what you mean. I hit a concrete retaining wall with it, and it only knocked out the parking light and put a 1" crimp in the bumper.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny you should mention the 88!

My buddy in high school had an 88. Whoever got to school first would get rammed in the bumper by the other. Those iron to iron bumper collisions were good clean fun. We also use to push each other across the school parking lot.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha ha

Sounds like good times!

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Three pitch K on Uggla?

Wow, that doesn’t happen often.

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by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Over on the AJC blog, Carroll Rogers said the writers in the botth did a rough attendance count at gametime and came up with 579.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s poor even by Marlins standards.

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All that being said, I really look forward to eventually getting down there to watch some games. I’m sure I could get at least one game ball or something, and I love Cuban food and beaches.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it would be fun. Do we have any good cuban food in Atl? I’ve only been to Havana Sandwich Shop

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm, there is only one tiny little shack on 14th street that makes some awesome Cuban sandwiches, but that’s all I know of…

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

For all the food I’ve eaten and enjoyed in my life, I’ve never had a Cuban sandwich. What exactly have I been missing out on?

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Usually smoked pork and/or ham, spicy mustard, pickles and sometimes peppers and light onions. Often toasted up like a panini sandwich.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i eat Cuban alot then. Minus the peppers.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds good. Damn good actually.

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I went to a place in Maryland that cheated and used chopped pork instead, with the ham. It was still a good sandwich, but if it’s not thinly-sliced pork loin, it loses points in my book.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This conversation is making me VERY hungry

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And also in text, completely oblivious

That HanRam just killed one.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We flew you in on AirTran just for that...

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes I am still thinking about Cuban food

This is what my idea Cuban sandwich looks like:

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah

How could I forget about Papi’s on Ponce? Never been there, but the big painted wall of the Cuban flag is a giveaway.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah! Haven’t been down Ponce in a while. Yahoo is listing La Fonda as Cuban…interesting.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm

The guy who runs Papi’s looks like the Dos Equis guy

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by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

whoa

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do the Carrabas guys have any relatives from Cuba?

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Screw this noise

By the end of this week, I will have had a Cuban sandwich.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yuni?

problem?

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WHY YUNEL WHY

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why what? I only have GameDay, don’t leave me hanging here. All I have to go by is “Injury Delay”.

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's grabbing his hands & shoulder.

left game

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Took a sort of funny swing and fell as he was running to first

Reaggravated the shoulder

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it's for the best

That will actually let Yunel get some much needed rest while Lillibridge is up to let him stay inactive.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah Lillibridge deserves a chance

And Yunel needs the rest anyway. May cost him a Gold Glove, but it’ll probably go to someone stupid like Stephen Drew or some other contender anyway.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

But other than Drew, has there been any other SS in the NL that would be worthy contention? Reyes and Rollins were pretty lame compared to their par, Hanley’s never been considered upper-echelon, Tulo was hurt a lot this year, as was Furcal, Greene. Wilson, Keppinger, Tejeda, Hardy, etc . . .

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay

I take it back about Reyes and Rollins, their numbers are about the same as always, notably Reyes’ FP% down a little while Rollins is actually up a little. But Rollins’ injuries, and Reyes just hasn’t looked as big of a factor against us this season thus far, both offensively or defensively.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I pulled Drew out of no where since he's probably below average defensively

Tulo is the only SS as good as Yunel in the NL. Maybe Caeser Itzturis too, but no one knows who he is. Hardy is good, but doesn’t have the reputation. It’ll probably go to Reyes or Rollins because of reputation depending on who wins the division or maybe something really stupid like Theriot for being short, scrappy, and on the Cubs.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This might be a lame statement

But Escobar’s turned in more Web Gems than everyone else. When you make catches that fool even the camera men, as they zoom out into left field, while Yunel’s laying in the infield dirt with a ball in his glove, that says a lot.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha that's pretty funny

Is there a video list of these or something? I catch it on ESPN every now and then, but I’ve only seen a fraction of them.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that I know of

But there are instances like that 17-inning marathon where the Astros were threatening, and the infield came in, and Yunel robbed a screamer away from like Hunter Pence or someone. The tv cameras went zooming into LF, while Yunel lay in the dirt, and unfortunately clearly re-aggravated his shoulder on the catch, and even the fans didn’t know that they were supposed to be standing and applauding right away.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah that play was crazy

The infield was in too, which makes it a hell of a lot harder. He had another catch like that against some other team in another bases loaded situation. I wanna say Cards or Marlins, but I can’t remember.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Effing mlb.com

Their “archive” for individual players goes back like two weeks tops. I was expecting to see “Escobar diving catch / shows off range” several times, but instead see links for Mike Hampton starts, and RBI base hits.

http://www.mlive.com/fantasysports/index.ssf/2008/08/baserunning_defense_have_big_i.html

An interesting fantasy sports article written fairly recently, has Yunel Escobar by a wide margin over all other shortstops in the league . . . paragraphs 6 & 7.

The Braves Yunel Escobar leads the shortstops at plus-27, followed by J.J. Hardy (Brewers, plus-16), Jack Wilson (Pirates, plus-13), Mike Aviles (Royals, plus-11), Omar Vizquel (Giants, plus-10) and Jimmy Rollins (Phillies, plus-9).

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah yes they use plus/minus

It’s pretty much the best fielding stat since they just review tons of video. Too bad you need a subscription for it.

Surprised Izturis wasn’t on there. Revised Zone Rating likes him. And he can’t hit at all, so you’d think he’d at least be able to field.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, another injury!

I’m seriously thinking of writing a book about the season. 2008: The Season From Hell. I think it would be a good read. If only i had writing skills, and knew people.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“splits the wickets”??
Chip’s on a roll today…

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, MLB Gameday audio way behind.

by 10-4 on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

3-1 score, let’s keep it that way

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Was just about to say, there’s the prediction coming true…

by VegasAces on Sep 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seven

Combined hits, a one-hitter the rest of the way would be unlikely…

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hooray got the bunt down with 2 strikes

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Campillo's getting squeezed

That’s the second strikeout that’s turned into a walk.

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Uuuuugh.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Poor Campillo

gets screwed by a bad call and then the lights on a pop up

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Er the lights = the sun

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

See?! Low attendance = very entertaining

able to hear Bobby’s argument on the radio, ha ha ha…

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I heard a couple of f-bombs in there.

by BullManUGA on Sep 3, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even better when afterwards Joe says something like "I didn't hear what Bobby said."

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They used to ask the viewers not to read lips.

by BullManUGA on Sep 3, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WTF? Prado is hurting?

I guess that’s why he was playing 1st.

by BullManUGA on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL @ the Tommy Boy reference.

by BullManUGA on Sep 3, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hmmm

missed it.

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They were showing where Andres Galaragga hit his 529ft homer.

Using the telestrator they did the bit when Tommy gets hit in the head and they go to the diner.

“It doesn’t hurt here or here so much as right here.”

by BullManUGA on Sep 3, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Am I crazy?

Okay, I know I’m crazy, but I’m also at the mercy of Gamecast. How did the Marlins score a third run? I’m only seeing a HanRam solo-shot, and one Hermida RBI single. . . 2 runs?

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Was it Ross?

Did he score on the single as well?

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Willingham singled Ross in

Right before Hermida’s single

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL, Uggla: "Bullshit! Are you kidding me?"

I could hear it clear as day.

by BullManUGA on Sep 3, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

ha ha ha

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man I was out of the room when that happened

Missed the hilarity

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Those guys are so cute when they’re mad…it’s like getting yelled at by an elf

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

On Monday, I heard Paul Lo Duca saying “That’s fucking terrible” clear as day when he was called out by Chad Fairchild.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Notice there’s less whistling to be heard since Yuni left the game?

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoa whoa two hands Kelly

by VictorW on Sep 3, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"A female guy"

The Professor really bailed Chip out of that one…

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ALL sorts of tasteless jokes

Can go to Chip’s gender confusion.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Debil strikes again

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Normally Cody Ross just homers all the time; I was expecting a grand slam there. Maybe Fredi wants to see if Nunez will walk in another run?

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by royhobbs on Sep 3, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well, duh, Fredi....

by sddbaker on Sep 3, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crap

rare mistake by Heap

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Since we have nothing else to talk about...

can I just say that I work with some of the stupidest people on earth. I hate them.
Just saying…

by Lizziebeth on Sep 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh..

I hate that for you. You really should look for another job. Life is too short, and all that stuff… I don’t love my job all that much, but the people are pretty good to work with.

Just to cheer you up: