those who say yes, explain yourselves. i really wanna hear logic thats not centered around usual bullshit of “HE WON 14 STRAIGHT DIVISION TITLES! HE’S A LEGEND! yada yada yada”

I voted yes because he does a solid job of handling everything. There are no fights that break out, there are no players who act up or unprofessional like most other teams, most players are performing to their expectations, and I rarely disagree with his handling of the bullpen or bench. Not to mention that players love him and want to play for him (could be a key part of persuading a free agent); and I honestly feel that no other manager would have performed significantly better.

I’m not saying Bobby wrangled out the most wins than another manager, but I think the club performed to a realistic level given the injuries and underperformances – which I don’t think are all his fault. Bottom line, I think it’s completely unnecessary to fire Bobby. The fan backlash would be ridiculous and it wouldn’t help the club significantly – if at all. The players would be unhappy, it could potentially decrease attendance, and firing someone usually creates unwanted attention in the media.

Also, I hate to pull out the none of us are in the clubhouse card, but it’s certainly true. I mean, how do we really know what kind of job he’s doing? Based on putting Boyer in the game instead of Acosta? The lineup? There are more to a manager than we see, and it’s something that the players and upper management sees. And by their account, he’s doing an outstanding job so you have to believe them.

How bout a poll: Should Frank Wren stay as GM?

Then everyone should be voting no.

…I’ve seen the managers they’ve trotted out in the past, Russ Nixon anyone? Or how about Joe Torre? There’s a lot of spoiled fans floating around that don’t know what it was like to sit through miserable year after year, the last couple of years are nothing but a blip on the radar when it comes to how bad the Braves can really be.

In that 14 year run I’ve always waited for the other foot to drop, took longer than I expected but it did fall.

I do have to agree that Bobby may be a fault for a lot of brave’s losses over the years, and is starting to remind me of JoePa (legendary Penn state coach in case anyone is uneducated). But you do have to give him his respect and the time he has earned as a braves manager. But I would like to ask anyone’s thought on our wonderful ex-GM John Schuerholz, and current GM Frank Wren. I feel a MLB manager can only do so much with what he has available. And ownership (turner and however many more we have had) has always kept the braves pretty low on payroll, I know. But there has been several moves especially in the last few seasons that really shot the braves in the foot before the season began. Smoltzie said it best when you look at the roster of old farts that we were actually were going to try to make a run at the playoffs with. And you look at some of the teams we had in the 90’s when we were running the national league, other than pitching I never really thought we were that good in comparison to other leading teams talent. So dibs have to go somewhere and I think that is Bobby Cox.

Every time I re-check this thread, there is at least one reasoning of Bobby’s faults pointed at Jeff Francoeur. What my curiosity is, is how much of Francoeur being used when he should be benched is on Cox, and how much of it is on management? Francoeur’s (probably prematurely), like it or not, one of the faces of the franchise, and I’m curious to hypothesize that there is a good bit of his constant starting time in relation to this fact.

Sure there are times when it’s clear that Bobby’s sticking with someone, like when he trots out Macay McBride to “get some work,” because there’s no way the organizational management group gives two turds about him. But with Francoeur, whose tied into Delta, local TV commercials, Chic-Fil-A, I’m wondering if management feels that it’s a bad move to have him not play and be on television. After all, logic is one thing, but baseball is still a money-making endeavor for the owners and management, and many don’t seem to realize that fans care more about winning over all else. When he was demoted, it was management’s call; I would imagine sticking with him would be similar.. .

Or maybe Bobby’s in love with his laser rocket arm, or his boyish Southern good looks. Who knows, but a part of me doesn’t want to believe that Bobby wouldn’t have benched him sooner if it were 100% his call.

Why would any Braves fan want Bobby Cox back? This team is not going to win unless it picks up a dominating pitcher and gets some power in the outfield. It won’t be happening. Someone has to shake this team up and let the brass know that picking up a 40 year old pitcher is not going to bring a championship.

Secondly, what coach goes to the playoffs 14 straight seasons or whatever it was, and only wins one damn world series. Bobby Cox is one of the most overrated coaches out there.

It’s time to get someone new in there. I cannot even watch this team anymore. It makes me sick.