Hard to watch...
by opoverlord on Aug 27, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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PrintI've been a fan of the Bravos since I was in 1st grade way back in the late 70s. I've stuck with them through thick and thin. That said, they are hard to watch right now. Its almost like they are just laying down. Chipper seems to have given up any desire to hold off Pujols. And when did he last hit a homer? Kotchman's mom is sick and he's not coming back any time soon. I'm not sure he's really been thrilled to be in ATL since day one.
I keep trying to find some bright spot to hang my hat on, but I'm really struggling to find one. We keep marching Boyer out there so that he can increase the other teams' leads. We do our best to make sure Jurjens won't win the Rookie of the Year award by not scoring when he pitches. And today the fire sale continued with Kotsay being traded. It sure looks like this team has mailed it in. Please, show me I'm wrong. Help me see the light. All I see is a team that has no fire, no desire, no will to at least play the role of a spoiler.
I have to agree with Gondee on the Glavine situation. I hope we aren't counting on him next year. It was great to see him back in a Braves uniform this year, like the all was right with the world. But we should've known better. I bring up Glavine because I'm a bit despondent on our outlook for next year. Are we entering another long stretch like the mid-late 80s? Are Jo Jo and Charlie the 2008 version of Marty Clary and Rick Luecken? Is Chuck James our Derek Liliquist? Blaine Boyer our Joe Hesketh?
Hope does indeed spring eternal...but this spring seems to have dried up for the moment.
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I just don't understand..
…why everyone keeps saying “Fire Sale”.
It’s not like we’ve turned over 90% of the roster. We’ve made a couple deals, were not even close to a fire sale.
Give me a break.
its easy to find the bright spots if ur looking for them, just like its easy to find the dreary areas when ur looking for them. Sure Jurrjens isnt winning, but he is a rookie with a good ERA, he has shown great poise and been out most reliable starter this year. So next year we should expect him to be pretty good. ALso, how can you talk about the Braves and not mention Brian McCann. He has been nothing short of brilliant this year. ANd as hard it is to say, but I love seeing Boyer out there continuously. You know what it tells me about the guy, he has a short memory and a great arm, something you need for a reliever. And as far as Chipper giving up, I dont know about that. You’re right he has seemed to be falling off as of late. But I honestly don;t think he could give a shit (pardon my language) about a batting title, he wants to win. He has been hurt and played through it so I think he is a bit worn down and emotionally drained. Even with his recent “struggles” he is still batting aroun 360, which isnt too bad.
All in all, this season has been dissapointing, but its also been great. Smoltz stuck out his 3000 batter, Chipper had a great season and almost achieved his 150 game goal, we have some very promising minor leaguers doing exceptionally well, Freeman, FLowers, Heyward, Hanson, Schafer, and (ill stop here, but there are more)… plus its baseball and that makes it great in and of itself…. And getting rid of Kotsay was the right move, we apparently decided to not keep him, so why not get something for him. it makes room for Josh Anderson (i will be severely dissapointed if he isnt called up)
In summation, dont worry be happy, and as the CUbs would say there’s always next year (God I hope we dont have to adopt that outlook every season, but Im ok with doing it for this year)
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
Damn dude...
For one thing I give Kotchman a pass for bein with his mom because she is sick. Plus we stink anyway he might as well be with her. I dont know how bad she is sick but could be bad enough to die any day so lay off of Kotchman.
Fire sale? What the hell are you talkin about? Why does people think we are havin a damn fire sale?? Somebody please explain this to me. We traded Tex because he is a free agent at the end of the year and we had ZERO shot at resigning him, and Kotsay would leave and we get absolutely NOTHIN for him. Better to get somethin for him than nothin. Dude a fire sale is like what the Marlins did after the 1997 season. So everybody shut up about us doin a fire sale cause we are NOT doin a fire sale. Because with the talent and money we have we have a CHANCE to compete in 2009. The 1998 Marlins had NO chance at competing.
This is what you said “Are we entering another long stretch like the mid-late 80s?” No way. For one thing we have a good young major league team and money to spend this offseason. And plus we have a really good farm system also. So no way we will be as bad as we were in the 80’s. Oh yeah and plus if we were REALLY in a fire sale we would have traded Chipper, Soriano, Gonzalez, Ohman, Infante, Gotay, and anybody else that has an ounce of trade value that is not cheap right now.
And yes it would be nice if this team looked like it had more life in it but really who cares? We are out of it and if we spoil teams we do so what either way. Just chill dude it will be ok, we have a chance at next year.
braves#1
Agreed...
fire sales are what the Marlins have (and may soon have another). The exits here were inevitable. At least now we have a little more room for the younger guys to get their shot and a lot more room in the check book for the off season!
Thank you.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Aug 28, 2008 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see
Pictures from the various past decades of the fans in the stands after a major choke job, much like the huge flood of crying Mets fans at Shea at the last game of the season last year. That would almost be coffee-table book worthy.
“Sports Heartbreak thru the Decades”
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I like the idea…that’s a nice project. You could even get it published -
I published a book through this site a couple months ago and it turned out pretty well.
Interesting
I had a book bound by them once, and it turned out like crap. Sadly, I know a few people over at the lulu.com company, I met them at a press convention, and they’re only in North Carolina, but I’m not very impressed with their quality. (I do graphics; printing knowledge/industry is a huge part)
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Hmm
Mine was a text-only thing, with the only graphic being a photo of The Ted on the cover. I wouldn’t be surprised if those turned out better than the more graphics-heavy projects.
Sadly
Mine was too. A 186 page novel of nonsense I planned on giving to some select friends as a gag gift. The cover was all messed up, colors off, duplicate blocks of text, etc. I pride myself at making my files as idiot-proof as possible; and they still messed up.
As much as I’d love a book of crying sports fans, I’d need an extensive collection of photographs; and to get rights to some of the better ones in history, I’d pretty much need to be Ted Turner.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
That stinks that they messed yours up, I thought it was pretty much idiot proof too but obviously not. How long ago was yours? I’m just wondering if maybe they’ve cleaned up their act more recently.
Agreed about needing the rights to the photos. The legal hassles, etc. would undoubtably make it not worth it.
Do you have any other suggestions for online publishing outlets similar to what lulu does? If I can find something better, I’ll move on for my next project – it’s not like I’m blindly loyal or anything.
Believe it or not, but CafePress does some decent quality for books, provided everything is set up well. And they do it in such small runs, it’s easy to push out a single copy if that’s all you want. For larger projects, there’s this one company whose work I’ve seen, that I’ve been thinking about going to, I can’t recall their information off-hand, but if I ever find it again, I’ll let you know. Their work seemed more professional and, their reps were too.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Thanks for the info…I’ll check out CafePress when I get a chance (i.e., when Pujolina lets me get away for more than 10 seconds).
Ahh, Pujolina how could I forget! How is she?
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Aug 28, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for asking…she’s doing very well – today is her three month birthday, and she’s growing and developing right on schedule according to the doctor.
Good to hear, my friend.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Aug 28, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
this is hard to watch? i think its awesome when we lose because we’re getting ever so close to my idol, mr strasburg. and trust me, if we draft him…you won’t be crying about losses for much longer
Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.
We don't have..
…a snow balls chance in hell to land Strasburg.
For one the Nationals and Mariners are far worse off than we are.
nats & mariners don’t like going above slot, which boras will command. and the padres passed up a borad client (stephen drew) in 0…4? to take matt bush. so yeah. theres some precedent there
Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.
Yeah..
..and it’s not like the Braves FO have a great relationship for Boras either.
I’m just saying, don’t hold your breath.
Padres
Them passing on Drew for Bush is exactly why they will draft Strasburg. They’re not going to make the same mistake twice and besides, isn’t Strasburg a local kid down there?
Keep an eye on the Pedro Alvarez/Boras situation. If for some reason they determine that his deal was signed after the deadline, then the Pirates will get the third pick in the upcoming draft. If we don’t keep losing, we’re going to fall right out of a top 10 draft position. Not that I really like to see the Braves lose, I’m just sayin………..
Yeah Strasburg isn't falling to us
Boras will probably want a Teixeira bounty (10M signing), but Strasburg is just too good to let fall. The fans of the Mariners/Padres/Nats/whoever would riot. Especially the Pads since he’s from San Diego
The
Nats and Padres may not pony up enough cash to get Strasburg but i bet the Mariners would so your right no way we get Strasburg. But we still have a chance to get a good player that can help us in the future hopefully.
braves#1
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