What we gave up and what we got for Tex

by rockybull on Jul 30, 2008 6:14 PM EDT Comment 21 comments

Rangers got Salty, Andrus, Harrison, Jones, and Feliz

Braves got Tex and Mahay, now there gone, now we have Kotchman, Duvall(from the Mahay pick), and Marek

Angels got Tex

Good deal at the time cause we got Tex and Mahay. It didn't work out but not a awful deal.

Ok first off we have no need for Salty at Catcher. And Kotchman I would MUCH rather have at First base. I dont think Salty will be able to hit enough to put up with his below average defense at First. Jones and Marek I would say is a wash. I have never been a big fan of Harrison. I like Jurrjens, Reyes, Morton and Hanson way more than Harrison. And I actually like Duvall more than Harrison also. Andrus was blocked, I like KJ and Escobar more and plus we still have Lillibridge, it was easy to give Andrus up. I still like Andrus upside though. Feliz will probably be the ONLY guy that we regret trading in this deal. But getting ONE full year from Tex makes it worth it especially when we tried to win the World Series. So I guess you can look at it as we gave up Andrus and Feliz for Tex. So it actually looks like we gave up 2 guys for Tex.

I think if you look at it this way you are happy with what we got. And also thinking that it was not NEARLY as bad of a trade as alot of people think. I heard Buster Olney talk bad about the 2007 trade earlier today or last night but he is a moron anyway at least thats what I think. At least now Smoltz, Chipper and Bobby knows that we tried to win it all last year and this year so they can at least respect the front office for tryin one last time at the Series while they are still playing. Not saying that we wont win the World Series while there still here but it will be difficult.

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Haven't you heard?

Optimism isn’t allowed!

Good insight however.

I share your sentiments on Salty and Jones. Harrison may turn out decent but not stellar. Andrus is a coin flip. Feliz we could use.

I read a scouting report on Marek earlier today that did not sound too bad. He could potentially develop into a starter.

by BlueVol03 on Jul 30, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I actually agree with you. We took a shot with the trade last year trying to get to the WS. I’ll take that aggressive approach every time.Also agree that the only guy I regret in the trade is Feliz.

by dwbrave on Jul 30, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

winner, winner, chicken dinner!

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 31, 2008 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've been using that line a lot

I take it you watched 21 recently?

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jul 31, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope…my favorite morning radio show uses it as one of their soundclips. But I’ve been warming up to the idea of watching 21…wasn’t all that interested at first. I take it you’ve seen it and enjoyed it?

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 31, 2008 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh, it’s alright. I’ve read the book, and seen the movie, and they’re both radically different, aside from the point that they count cards. Good flick to watch if you’re a gambler like me though. I’ll take no responsibility if it makes you feel like dropping what you’re doing and jet off to AC for a spell, however.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jul 31, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw the movie, have yet to read the book. I also watched th History Channel special like I’m sure most people have. The movie was decent, but I didn’t think it was fantastic. Had a couple of good moments though, but you can say that about most flicks.

About the only thing it accomplished, as royhobbs alluded to, was make me want to go directly from the theater to the airport and hop the next flight to McCarran.

by VegasAces on Jul 31, 2008 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha, knew it wouldn’t take long for you to drop in our this convo!

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 31, 2008 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll never call

Morpheus anything but “Morpheus” for the rest of his career or life.

FYI, the Chinese guy who was a random dealer at the Planet Hollywood scenes was the real guy the entire story was based off of.

baseball

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good bit of trivia there, I did not know that.

by VegasAces on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would put it this way

Rangers got Salty, Andrus, Harrison, Jones, and Feliz

Braves got 1 year of Tex and 2 months of Mahay, plus Kotchman, Duvall(from the Mahay pick), and Marek

Angels got 2-3 months of Tex

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by Darin H on Jul 30, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Angels

Angels will also get 2 compensation picks. Or put another way, the Braves lost out on two compensation picks as part of their opportunity cost for trading Tex.

by jc25 on Jul 30, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

but I was talkin mainly that the trade was not as bad as many thought. Im fine with losing the 2 draft picks with the package we got. And plus this draft is the Weakest in a long time. With our record thats probably gonna be top 10 we should get a good pick there and maybe even top 15 but after that the draft drops CONSIDERABLY.

braves#1

by rockybull on Jul 30, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its not like tex shit the bed. he performed as advertised. not his fault the rest of the team didn’t. i make that trade every time out of 100

Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.

by bigjoe on Jul 30, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that casey kotchman fellow is doing so well so far. he’s even got the some of the sheep at turner booing him

Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.

by bigjoe on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

0-9

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Aug 1, 2008 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

look who decided to shell out for some internet access, or found a hot spot?

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Aug 1, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

turns out it was free…i just needed an ACCESS CODE. yeah. they also lied about having a pool which shoots my day in the foot

Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.

by bigjoe on Aug 1, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

its not like Tex is rakin for the Angels either.

braves#1

by rockybull on Aug 1, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its been 2 games, and at least he’s reached base. he also stole a base last night. MANLY

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by bigjoe on Aug 1, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW

he reached base and stole a base also. He is Babe Ruth now. Tex is better no doubt but give Kotchman some time. No doubt Tex is better but did you actually think we would get a player better than Tex in a trade? I mean come on dude. Be realistic.

braves#1

by rockybull on Aug 1, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs