2009 FA Possibilities
I posted this in another thread, but i wanted to set up its own post just to see if I coule garner some talk. Hopefulyl this will keep us from thinking about our recent losses to the Nationals. I'd really like to know what everyone thinks on this.
I wanted to touch on something i just discovered the other day, in my estimation the Braves will have a base salary as a team next year of around 50 or 60M, depdning on what smoltz gets for a contract, he currently has a 12M option i believe, and if we resign a couple of guys… Tex (not a chance really), or glavine… Generally the Braves spend in the neighborhood of 90M which give us around 40-30M to spend. Also, the Braves won’t need to dole out a ton of money in Arbitration because Frenchy is having an off year (to say the least)
I think we have our 1B of the future, whether it be FLowers, Freeman, Heyward, or even Cody Johnson (remember he isnt even 20 yet). so all we really need is a stop gap for one or two years at 1B. I think the most glaring thing the Braves need to do is ptiching, the rotation needs a front line starter (i don’t think Hudson is an ace, he is a low nb1 or high nbr 2 but not an ace) Sheets and Sabathia are both on the market. I think it is imperative that the Braves make a serious run at one of those two. Theres no way i want to spend 20M but if we can get one of them for around 15-17M a year for maybe 5-6 years, i say go for it.
But back to the 1B situation, like i said we need a stopgap. Here is a short list of the guys that are FA to be this offseason… Ben Broussard, Sean Casey, Eric Hinske, and Doug Mientkiewicz. If we can sign Eric Hinske I think that should be our top guy to get. HE isn’t just a flash in the pan hitter, his ops is around 860 this year i believe, he can play the OF and 1B, he is a former ROY (not that that means a lot, but it helps my case so im gunna bring it up). Sean Casey and Doug Mientkiewicz are both very solid defensive 1B, and both are avg hitters. Sean Casey is an exceptional hitter in my opinion, if it weren’t for his lack of power. I think all of these guys can be signed for around 5-7M.
If both of these signings can occur, a 1B, and a front end starter we can compete next year, and I’ve only spent half of our proposed cap room. This next part could get a little scary if the first part wasnt already. I propose we sign Pat Burrell, hopefully to a 1-2 year deal. we slot Burrel in behind Chipper and our offense is no worse than it is this year. Casey Blake is another possibility. We could even sign Blake as our 1B, but i’m currently addressing our OF, so Iver put him here. Adam Dunn is also a FA, and he could be thrown in the mix.
I know a lot of these guys have their defincies, Sheets (injuries), Sabathia (afinity to sausages and beer, at least recently), the 1B considered to be avg or slightly above avg, Burrell and Dunn tend to swing and miss a fair amount. But besides sheets and Sabathia we are only looking for a year maybe two out of the guys. Worst case we are no worse than we are this year, best case we have Hinske, whose production is hgiher than any OF we have, Blake same thing, and our Rotation now looks quite menacing, with Hudson Jurrjens and Sheets/Sabathia.
I just stumbled across the proposed 2009 FA and this is how i came to this idea, i may be whacked out of my head (it wouldnt be the first time), but i think this makes sense. Does anyone else agree? Beard feel free to back me up or shoot me down with the stats
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Burrell
Pat Burrell would never settle for a 1-2 year deal. He’ll want at least 5 years, and he’ll get it. He’s a very underrated player, and I’d love to see him in a Braves uniform, but that would never happen. This offseason will probably be like most others, where the Braves make some tiny signings, fart around and make stupid, dinky trades, and hope they can win with what they have.
by drdonkeypunch on Jul 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT 0 recs
Burrell’s defense is abysmal, but his offense more than makes up for it. I’d love to see him in LF for us.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on
Jul 22, 2008 9:51 AM EDT
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Agreed
I agree, he’s basically a sloth out there, but I’m sure his offense is worth more runs than his defense gives up.
Same thing could be said about Adam Dunn, but BP seems to think that his defense has actually improved from a travesty to just downright bad. Dunn would be a FA I’d be ecstatic about signing. His value is pretty low right now (because apparently most MLB GM’s are idiots), and he might be cheaper to get than someone like Burrell.
by drdonkeypunch on
Jul 22, 2008 10:42 AM EDT
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Very good point…I’m a big fan of Dunn as well. Actually have him and Burrell in my outfield for one of my fantasy teams. But I digress.
If we could sign Dunn I would certainly be up for it, but it would usher in a new era of Braves fans constantly bitching about his batting average while ignoring the fact that he consistently is in the top-10 in BB in MLB:
2008 – 75, 1st
2007 – 101, 9th
2006 – 112, 4th
2005 – 114, 3rd
2004 – 108, 6th
Those are for the entire MLB, people. When will people understand that BA is not a good stat! Not to mention his SLG is always through the roof.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on
Jul 22, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
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Agreed, too..
I’d platoon rookies before I paid him a nickle! He couldn’t catch the ball if you rolled it to him—never has been a good defensive outfielder.
by BBFAN46 on
Jul 23, 2008 8:54 AM EDT
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OBP
I’d take a guy that puts up .230/.380/.550 over a guy that puts up .300/.325/.500 any day of the week. OBP is the single most important stat when it comes to offense, hands down.
by drdonkeypunch on Jul 22, 2008 1:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Some people continue to live in a box and don’t want to try and understand why batting average tells very little about a player’s offensive contributions. To quote this man:

You’re new stats frighten and confuse me!
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on
Jul 22, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
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Batters should only be evaluated by BA, RBI, Runs, SO, SB, and how many times I've seen them hit a walk off
For fielders, the only stats that matter are fielding percentage, errors, and calm eyes.
Pitchers should only be judged on wins, losses, and saves. He might give up a lot of runs, but he gives up just enough to win!
by VictorW on
Jul 22, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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urge to kill, ris…, oh wait, I see what you did there!
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on
Jul 22, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
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As much as I like Pat the Bat
There’s no reason to sign him because he’s going to get 4 years at least. Chances are, he only has 1 or 2 good years of production left. He has no young player skills at all. He’s due to fall off a cliff soon. Hafner, Cecil Fielder, Mo Vaugh, Richie Sexson, etc. Too risky!
Dunn is a better bet since he’s younger and at least a little more athletic. Dunn can play 1B too. If people keep knocking Dunn for his crappy BA while ignoring his awesomeness, then it’d be nice if we could get him for a good price, but I doubt it.
by VictorW on Jul 22, 2008 4:02 PM EDT 0 recs
True, Pat does turn 32 this year but he’s had 3 straight years of near identical offensive production and this year he is having the best season of his career. I wouldn’t be so quick to say he’s only got 1 or 2 good years of production left…lets wait for him to actually have a down year. Bunching him in with the likes of Cecil, Mo, and Sexson isn’t really fair (what’s the deal with Hafner?).
Dunn is younger, yes, but I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s more athletic that Burrell. He’s 3 inches taller and about 40 lbs heavier according to their Yahoo! player pages. Are you talking just about their respective ranges in LF? And if Miguel Cabrera can play 1B, I’d bet that Burrell can too.
But yes…I agree with you that I would prefer Dunn.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on
Jul 22, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
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Yea...
If I had to pick between the two, I’d take Dunn. But I’d look further before jumping for either one of them.
by BBFAN46 on
Jul 23, 2008 8:56 AM EDT
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