Natspos @ Bravos: Rubber Game
by gondeee
on Jul 20, 2008 6:30 AM EDT
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Washington @ Atlanta
Jo-Jo Reyes starts against former Atlanta Braves golden boy Odalis Perez -- interestingly they both are pretty shitty this year, though if you've watched some of Jo-Jo's starts you'll know that he should have a much better record than he has. He actually has some of the worst run support in the league -- 125th out of 132 starters in the NL -- that's a measly 2.55 runs per start (save for the four starts that Jeff Bennett (2.16) made). Jurrjens (5.27) has the best run support of any Braves starter except for John Smoltz (6.33) and Tom Glavine (6.07).
The surgeon needed some RS last night as he seemed to have some rust on his arm from the break. Was it just me or did we have base runners and runners in scoring position in every inning only to ground out or line out or fly out or strike out or Francoeur out?
Here are the x-Braves Nationals players vs. us this season:
Willie Harris - .455 BA w/ 2 3B, 3 2B and 5 RBI
Ryan Langerhans - .571 BA w/ 1 3B, and 2 2B
Pete Orr - 1-for-2.... anyone who allows Pete Orr to get a hit is horrible
At least we've handled Johnny Estrada, who is just 3-for-20 against us
Oh, and Odalis Perez has a 1.80 ERA against us in five innings...
Playoffs?... what?
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Let's win this one!!
Gone to the game with a new (to me) telephoto lens and a ‘fancy-dancy’ SLR/digital camera; maybe I’ll snag some decent pics (if I can figure out how to work the camera on the way there).
by Lizziebeth on Jul 20, 2008 10:05 AM EDT 0 recs
The attack...
...of the former Braves was really disheartening last night. Watching Langerhans hit everything just a little bit harder than Blanco or Francouer could track down, and Harris’s forty warning track putouts was glimpses of what made both of them welcome talents in their tenures with us.
Yesterday was one of those games you go to, and losing doesn’t feel like much of an option, seeing as how it’s against the Nationals. But I suppose John Lannan is much like last year’s Jason Bergmann – we crush him in his debut against us, but then can’t buy a hit afterwards. It’s not that we had too many LOBs, he was figuring out the weaknesses, and pitching around guys to get to guys he knew he could better out.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 10:22 AM EDT 0 recs
God we need a win!!
Its good to be back, my computer crashed and I havent been able to post in FOREVER! Hope everyone is doing well.
by clemsonfan on Jul 20, 2008 11:45 AM EDT 0 recs
I swear...
..if Bobby runs Greg Norton out in Left Field again…I’m going to have to resort to desperate measures…or something. Running him out there in Left Field just screams “We’re not trying”
by RainDelay on Jul 20, 2008 12:01 PM EDT 0 recs
+1
When I see guys like Andruw Jones, Grady Sizemore, or Torii Hunter make a great catch, it’s a great catch. When I see Greg Norton make a great catch, it’s usually as a result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and by a wink of Pujols, he recovers, and manages to salvage/prevent a double.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 12:13 PM EDT
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Wow
Stay-Puft can’t seem to find the K-zone today. . . could be a really long afternoon.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM EDT 0 recs
He'll
Never, ever live that down, will he?
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 1:46 PM EDT
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After watching Uggla in the ASG
I’ll never mention it again
by Rhyno18 on
Jul 20, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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Lookee there
A nice solid double from Mister Francoeur.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 1:53 PM EDT 0 recs
...and fucking kotsay swings on the first pitch. great.
by bigjoe on Jul 20, 2008 1:54 PM EDT 0 recs
I wonder
If this game will be a slugfest
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 1:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Puft
Ain’t getting called strikes. I guess “the rookie” is not “establishing the strike zone enough”.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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totally...
i count three strikes that were textbook already.
by traphicg on
Jul 20, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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FYF
i’m glad he got an E on that throw. There’s usually never a time when I think he’s NOT going to make that throw, but when he misses, he’s trying too hard to make the play and be the man, clearly, b/c he only misses high, by a mile. He can make a decent play, most likely still get that runner, if he just sorta throws it in there.
Remember last year he had 2 assists at the plate, and another opp in either the 8th or 9th, and the ball just SAILED into the backstop net….. those first two were righteous though
by traphicg on Jul 20, 2008 2:10 PM EDT 0 recs
strike zone
i think perez just got pinched too though…so….
by traphicg on Jul 20, 2008 2:11 PM EDT 0 recs
It’s not even Tim McClelland or Laz Diaz, either. Scary.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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Here comes...
The comments about Jo Jo being a good hitter despite having no hits all season.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 2:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Should be a rule...
...not allowed to call someone a good hitter when they are 0/20. Who cares if they were recruited to USC as a first baseman.?
by sddbaker on
Jul 20, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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Yet
We are going to try an be buyers at the deadline?
Anyone see that article in the AJC?
by mburris1 on
Jul 20, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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there's a bad storm a-brewin
coming in from the northeastern side of the field
by traphicg on
Jul 20, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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Do not like
so, have the pitchers decided “what the hell” and given up as well?
by sddbaker on Jul 20, 2008 2:30 PM EDT 0 recs
Well
Time to find something else to do right about now. Oj-Oj, the bad Stay-Puft decided to take the mound today instead.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 2:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Funny you should mention that
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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Funny
because if i don’t laugh, i will have to cry.
by mburris1 on
Jul 20, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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I was uploading this
Right as you said it.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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classic!!!
I’m actually going to be planning a trip to a royals game around Good/Evil Davies.
I live in STL and my parents live in KC – i wouldnt want anyone to think i’d be making a special trip for the Royals’ or the ALs sake.
by traphicg on
Jul 20, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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We should have known
Corky Miller was in the lineup. He has cast his pall on the whole team today.
by mburris1 on Jul 20, 2008 2:32 PM EDT 0 recs
Sweet Merciful Pujols
Here comes Bobby.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 2:32 PM EDT 0 recs
oh geez
there goes my sunday afternoon plans…. this is already getting to me
by traphicg on Jul 20, 2008 2:34 PM EDT 0 recs
The other umps
Are pissed because Gucchione is making this game last about four hours in a 93-degree weather day
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 2:39 PM EDT 0 recs
I hope..
...Gucchione has this game reviewed. He’s a sorry ass ump to begin with.
by RainDelay on Jul 20, 2008 2:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Pretty much every ump is a wannabe jock that couldn’t make it, so they get their attention by trying to show up real players by being umps
by Rhyno18 on
Jul 20, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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Not all..
...there are some good umps in the league. Just not a lot of them..
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
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I always like the umps that throw the new balls to the pitcher themselves, and admire their own follow-through, instead of handing the ball to the catcher. Those are the ones I think have some unfulfilled baseball dreams.
Personally, my favorite ump is Tom Hallion. He has a generous strike-zone, which leads to interesting baseball, and his ring-up move is the best in the business.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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Yeah..
..and if anyone thinks this is bad umpiring – go to a Triple A game when you get a chance. I don’t know about in the International League, but over here in the Pacific Coast League there are some truly horrible umpires and a couple that make Guccione look like a saint.
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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The IL umpires aren’t horrible, in fact most games you don’t notice them. The way umpires should be.
by Rhyno18 on
Jul 20, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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I've always been curious
On how the review process goes. I know you’re reading Living on the Black as well, and there is a great wealth to what umps go through, but even this is beyond normalcy. I don’t think there is enough reprimand for umps, and they all collectively need to stop being so paranoid about “being shown up.”
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
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Completely agree..
And yeah I don’t know about the review process, but something needs to be done about it. And not just this guy and this game but the ML’s as a whole. I kinda miss the days of AL and NL Umps…
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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There is a lot of mention
To some very crooked sounding things; like showing up and ump, and then when the umps are together, they whether, it’s inadvertent or not, influence the other umps on their crew to never forgive or forget a player, which could lead to some bad baseball in the future.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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Guccione
He is also the on who called Conor Jackson back to the plate after he called 4 balls, because the scoreboard said 3-2.
So not only is his strike zone ridiculous, he can’t count to 4 either.
by mburris1 on
Jul 20, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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Gucchione is lucky
it isn’t souvenir pitchfork and torch day at Turner Field.
by mburris1 on Jul 20, 2008 2:41 PM EDT 0 recs
We could only hope..
...like Joe said “Not a single person paid to see this guy ump”.
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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This game isn't worth full attention
The ump’s a dick, squeezing the pitchers, Oj-Oj couldn’t pitch, former Braves are destroying us, and the hitters just don’t seem like they’re going to pull out this deficit. As much as I hope I’m wrong, I’m glad I didn’t go to this game.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 2:44 PM EDT 0 recs
I'll see your 1-run homer...
And raise you a 2-run blast.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 2:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Last night...the Nats announcers...
were talking about Franceur’s red sleeves as being the only one on the team. He’s got them on again today. Has anyone heard what that is all about?
by OntheGo on Jul 20, 2008 2:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Probably
Just trying to shake the negative Ju-Ju, not to be confused with negative Jo-Jo, as seen today.
by mburris1 on
Jul 20, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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I suspect you are right...
but I gotta believe Bobby had to approve…out of desperation
by OntheGo on
Jul 20, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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Hahaha
I took off my glasses to be spared of watching this crap-fest, and I could sworn Felipe Lopez’s batting stance looked like Griffey, Jr.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 3:01 PM EDT 0 recs
I switched off...
...my MLB.tv and listening to the rest of the game on XM. I just couldn’t watch anymore.
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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I'd say
It’s time to pull the starters, and throw in the new Towel (Tavarez), but the game’s not even official yet.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 3:04 PM EDT 0 recs
At this point...
....I’d take Todd Pratt back in a second.
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
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Willie Harris home run
Alright, I think we’ve officially hit bottom.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 3:06 PM EDT 0 recs
No...
...that could be later this week vs Philly.
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
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This is the game
Where even the most optimistic Braves fans have to feel like sellers. I’m certainly beginning to feel that way.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on
Jul 20, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
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I hate to say it..
...but I have to agree. You see a game like this, and wonder if there really is any life. And if it wouldn’t be better to wave the white flag.
by RainDelay on
Jul 20, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Bobby Ejections
Don’t seem to inspire like they used to. Ozzie Guillen can have a hell of a career being used as hired-gun inspirational speaker to struggling teams, to get in the locker rooms of teams and grilling players to hopefully light some fires underneath some asses.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 3:13 PM EDT 0 recs
At the Ted
When the game enters a “realistic” situation in the 9th inning, with the Braves down like 3-4 runs, they always play these prepared packages of the Braves beating whomever team is in town in a 9th inning comeback situation. Against the Nationals, they always show highlights of a game in 2006 where the Braves came back from a 2-run 9th inning deficit capped off with Jeff Francoeur’s walk-off grand slam.
I wonder what they’d play with a seven-run deficit? I also wonder that if the Braves made a miraculous comeback, if SportsCenter would gush over it like a game where the Yankees overcame a 9-run deficit against the Rangers?
Just some thoughts, since y’know there’s not really a good game on or anything.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 20, 2008 3:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Well...
they would have to show us coming back from at least 5 or 6 runs, wouldn’t they? Can’t be a lot of those to choose from.
As for the SportsCenter question, the only way they would gush over the Braves making a comeback is if it were to involve a knife fight or something like that.
by sddbaker on
Jul 20, 2008 3:33 PM EDT
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Francoeur looks like he's aged 15 years
both at the plate and in the field lately
by OntheGo on Jul 20, 2008 3:34 PM EDT 0 recs
Anybody know where our pictures went?
looks like a few have ? like me
by OntheGo on Jul 20, 2008 3:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Every time I come in here and post something...
the Nationals score more runs.
This is truly depressing. What is going on with our pitching? The Nationals’ hitters supposedly suck, and they have 14 runs in the 5th inning, after scoring 8 last night and 6 on Friday. Normally five runs for us would give us a good chance. Like I said earlier, it looks like the pitching is giving up the ghost after fighting the good fight for the first half.
I need to cheer up. I need to quit watching the Braves for a while. But I can’t. I need an intervention.
by sddbaker on Jul 20, 2008 3:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Is it just me
But are the Nationals not playing nice-nice with the whole “let’s not make the other team feel too bad by not blowing them out too much” rule?
Then again, the Texans Rangers hung 30 runs on the Ravens Orioles last year.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
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