The AJC Poops on Journalism
Look, I know that Furman Bisher is supposed to be this legend, and someone who has probably earned the right to write about anything he pleases without being edited, but maybe it's time to put an end to that. Bisher's latest column on AJC.com is riddled with innacurate statements and failed assumptions. (I wasn't aware Bisher went to Yale.)
Reading the title of the article, "Braves failing to keep farm stocked," will tell you the first inaccurate statement. This is an article that comes on the heels of MLB.com naming three Braves among the top-50 prospects in baseball. Bisher begins the defense of his title by saying, "Once upon a time the Braves usually dealt from within when talent was in need." The assumption here is that they don't do that anymore... that's just wrong. The Braves just dealt four prospects for an established starting pitcher in his early 30's. They traded five prospects two years ago for one of the top sluggers in the game, not to mention other trades that acquired minor pieces like Mark Kotsay, Dannys Baez, Omar Infante and Will Oman, and on and on.
Bisher also erroneously suggests that John Smoltz was a product of our farm system, that's just plain wrong, he did pass through our farm system, but he was a product of the Tigers' farm system.
Bisher tries to suggest, again trying to support his failed hypothesis, that the Braves have been missing the playoffs because they no longer have home grown stars: "Three seasons have passed now and the Braves haven’t had a whiff of playoff aroma. Most of those homebred stars have moved on." Again, this is just plain wrong. Last year our starting position players consisted of over half homegrown talent: Brian McCann, Chipper Jones, Yunel Escobar, Kelly Johnson, and Jeff Francoeur, most of them recent additions to the major league roster.
Amazingly, Bisher says and then repeats that we "signed" Javier Vazquez. Is this a senior moment? He goes on to say that we also signed Russ Ortiz, Albie Lopez, and Mike Hampton, when we only signed Lopez, and traded for Ortiz and Hampton. In both trades we used young homegrown talent in the trade. Not to mention, lumping Lopez in with the other two is a bit silly since Lopez was signed to be a fourth or fifth starter and Ortiz and Hampton were acquired to be top of the rotation guys.
He ends with this amateurish and lackluster finish which does more to discredit his hypothesis than support it:
In the past season the Braves have traded away a busload of prospects for, in one case, a mere flirtation with Mark Teixiera, who was merely passing through town. They did happen to pick up an inexpensive Casey Kotchman in the deal, but back to Vazquez again, they traded a hot number with power, Tyler Flowers, for him. And Tyler can play first base, and has power.
What should bother Frank Wren is what’s going on with all those 47 scouts and those special assistants who are supposed to be covering the world and feeding that fallow farm system. That’s all.
If we traded away a "busoad" of prospects then we must have had a well stocked farm system to begin with. He also now admits that we traded for Vazquez (whereas two paragraphs earlier he says we signed him), and then mentions the prospect we traded for him... again, we couldn't have done this if we didn't have a stocked farm system.
Bisher has absolutely no clue what's gong on with our farm system, a system still considered to be one of the top ten systems in all of baseball even after all the prospects we've traded the last two years. That's a result of those 47 scouts and special assistants doing thier job.
This article reminded me of something the former Tigers' broadcaster Ernie Harwell said when he decided to end his career several years ago. Harwell said he was retiring now because he didn't want someone to come up to him years later and say, "I heard your last game, and it should've been." Well Mr. Bisher, I read your last article, and it should've been.
For a more in-depth destruction of Bisher's article, see beeniez Fan Post.
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This and beeniez's post...
is what I call Journalism.
Yeah!
by Lizziebeth on Dec 6, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I try to respect the old coot...
… but his latest article borders on utter stupidity.
- Oh, Bobby. -
by sdp on Dec 6, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thankyou,
He looks liek he knows what he talks about but that was a stupid post. Why shouldn’t we trade a blocked catcher and change for a solid 3 starter?
by SayHeyWerd on Dec 6, 2008 11:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hey look, there goes the point….
I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.
by bigjoe on Dec 7, 2008 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no one is talking about how he criticized the vazquez trade. thats not the issue
I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.
by bigjoe on Dec 7, 2008 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i know, but his point was how we trade away our prospects,
by SayHeyWerd on Dec 7, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for the poor guy…but yeah that article made no sense…of course half the audience of the AJC that commented on that article doesn’t understand baseball or the braves either so they probably love that piece….couldn’t agree more with you gondee.
by jwrocks on Dec 7, 2008 12:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Edit request.
Gondee:
I completely agree with you and wrote a comment in his blog telling him so, but I am requesting you edit your article on the main page to include what I thought was the biggest mistake of all he made in his article.
He blames Wren for two trades, the Teixeira trade and the Adam Wainwright trade…both of those were made pre Wren, who took over in Oct 2007. I thought he used those as two of his three main arguments, (the other being Vazquez). I could not believe that two of his three main arguments were completely incorrect and the other (once again Vazquez) was completely misjudged and misrepresented (i.e. signed instead of trade).
Might be worthwhile to throw in those to nuggets to your post about Adam and Mark trades that he blamed on Wren, when they were actually both John’s trades.
by Bravestillidie on Dec 7, 2008 2:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
AJC is well behind the web crowd
Bisher’s piece struck me as confused and absurd, and I’m glad to see it dissected this way. The Braves development system remains impressive, not just for McCann, Escobar, Johnson, Francoeur, Hanson and Hewyard but also for lost gems like Furcal, Wainwright, Andrus, Devine, and Feliz. And remember, until this year we’ve been drafting late in the first round for a decade and a half.
Bisher may be past his prime, but he’s less annoying than others at the AJC. They’ve got one guy so obsessed with race that he should be traded to the op-ed page, and another who seems to think his baseball column is a MySpace page devoted to his personal music tastes. This kind of self-indulgent arrogance only works when you’re the only game in town.
The AJC’s weaknesses illustrate why newspapers are losing ground to the web. If your bookmarks include Talking Chop, 1st Inning, MLBTR, Scout, ESPN and the Braves own website, the AJC can be pretty much an afterthought for an informed fan following our team.
by JimK on Dec 7, 2008 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
furcal is a lost gem? we got like what, 6 good years out of him?
I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.
by bigjoe on Dec 7, 2008 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Furcal
is a gem on the diamond. His disputable carat count certainly shone brightest in the Atlanta setting.
Few farm systems in baseball have produced as many shortstops of current value as Furcal, Escobar, and Andrus.
by JimK on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i’m saying how in the hell is he LOST? we had him for 6 years. we didn’t dump him off for prospects
I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.
by bigjoe on Dec 7, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DOB
I have to disagree with your assertion concerning the AJC. In my opinion, David O’Brien’s blog is still far and away the best source for Braves info. Hands down. I agree, though, that many of the staff sports writers don’t really “get” the team anymore. Most of the op-eds are pretty worthless. But DOB’s blog is indispensable as a Braves fan.
by sunking1056 on Dec 7, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indispensable how?
Let’s forget the fact that there is almost always more errors and assumptions than there are factual statements, but 50% of his blog is not even related to baseball much less the Braves. How is that the best source for info? I’ll admit that everyone now and then he posts a nice little nugget regarding a particular trade rumor or prospect call-up but these are so few and far between that you can’t possibly use this to justify your claim.
by scstrato on Dec 7, 2008 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're wrong
At least 60% of the blog is about the blog itself, and the “people” who post there. Then you have about a third of the blog dedicated to food and music (?). The rest is baseball-related. I usually read the blogs, but it’s always an afterthought. I come here first, then I check ajc just in case.
by buzzdeadwax on Dec 8, 2008 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Baloney
Having to find your way through the idiotic music discussions, cigar talk, put downs of ‘dark star’, and all the ridiculous ‘hey I’m really cool!’ motorcycle talk is almost not worth the hassle it takes to find the Braves news. Yes, it’s there, and yes, he’s well-informed, but that’s a terrible shame for the fans who go there looking for news. Unfortunately he’s the beat writer, so we have no choice but to suffer through his drivel. And don’t say not to go read it because you have to in order to search for updates.
The one good thing about O’Brien’s blog is it helps highlight just how good Talkingchop really is. We may fuss here now and then, but at least we’re fussing about the Braves.
My opinion, of course.
by secondbass on Dec 7, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree.
O’Brien’s blog is garbage.
by get swoll yunel on Dec 7, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
90% of the time he’s the first person to have a story, particularly during the season. He’s also the only writer to really give an impression of life in the clubhouse. The players like and trust him and it shows. I mean Chipper even guest blogs. That should tell you something. And I love TalkingChop, don’t get me wrong, but this is hardly the place to come for breaking news.
by sunking1056 on Dec 7, 2008 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the chair gets the story
Whoever sits in the AJC chair on the Braves beat gets handed the scoops. If he were fired (e.g. for refusing to take the non-sports garbage out of his column) the next person to sit in the chair would be handed the scoops.
by JimK on Dec 8, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So? That still means his blog would be the best source for breaking news.
by sunking1056 on Dec 8, 2008 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When you’re 50% of the beat writers in Atlanta, and the other 50% works for the team and thus has no monetary push behind him to be first and get exclusives, then of course you’re going to be first 90% of the time. The handful of times I’ve actually been in the press box, I’ve actually gotten scoops sooner than O’Brien — the Betemit trade, Hudson opting for surgery.
That’s not to say that O’Brien doesn’t do a good job, or that his blog, while full of unnecessary triviality, is a luxury we can benefit from that he doesn’t really have to do. Still, this is a one-horse town when it comes to major papers and therefore major sources of Braves news.
I know there are some people who don’t like Bowman (Mac, for one), but I really think he is the best writer we’ve got in Atlanta for the Braves. I keep hoping he’ll get a blog somewhere along the line — I have a feeling he would be an excellent blogger.
by gondeee on Dec 8, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Bowman as a blogger. His writing style seems more suited toward it, especially given how we’ve discussed in the past that his columns have a cookie-cutter feel and sound. In the past, saying someone a columnist should have a blog would probably be taken as a slap in the face, but now that the stigma is all but gone, it’s almost a compliment.
by VegasAces on Dec 8, 2008 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the last time you got a press pass, you were drinking in the chophouse with people that post on your blog. EXCLUSIVE INFO: BRAVES FAN DRIVES 700 MILES TO SEE A LINEUP HEADLINED BY OMAR INFANTE
I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.
by bigjoe on Dec 8, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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