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Thoughts for Friday

So many things for the Atlanta Braves hinge on one pitcher's decision -- will A.J. Burnett choose the Braves over some other team. I'm reluctant to say it, because the Braves so rarely operate this way, but they seem to have put most of their eggs in one basket as it pertains to Burnett. Oh, I'm sure there are backup plans, but the overwhelming preference for the Braves would be to sign Burnett before the Winter Meetings, and then focus on the acquisition through trade of a right-handed left field power bat.

Burnett, for his part, seems to be taking a cautions approach and has a preference to wait and see where C.C. Sabathia ends up signing, and more importantly, how much he signs for. But as more offers roll in for Burnett, and as the Braves push harder and harder and guarantee more and more, the more Burnett will realize that he's not going to get that much more if anymore by waiting to see where C.C. sets the market. I suppose at this point, it's all about, "does A.J. want to come to Atlanta." As much as we want to predict what he'll do, only he knows that.

It's too early for us to really speculate as to what we would do if we lose out on Burnett; we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there, if we get there. Whether we get him or not, I don't know if you can even pencil in a rotation for the Braves until the middle or end of spring training. The only two guys who I see as having guaranteed rotation spots are Jair Jurrjens and Javier Vazquez (and of course A.J. if we sign him). Jorge Campillo is close, but a bad spring could punt him to the bullpen or the minors. After those three it's anyone's guess between the comebacks of Tom Glavine and John Smoltz, and the young guys Charlie Morton, Jo-Jo Reyes, and Tommy Hanson.

By the way, if we were to sign or trade for one more Latino starting pitcher, we could conceivably have an all-Latino rotation -- Vazquez, Jurrjens, Campillo, Reyes -- has that ever happened before? Omar Minaya would be jealous. (Though, is Jurrjens considered Latino? He's from a Dutch colony, but he's from the "Latin American" part of the world.)

I'm glad we finally got some action this week. I feel like all we've done for the last month is speculate about Jake Peavy... in thinking more about it, I feel that way because that's all we have done. I'm still amazed that the rumored package of Escobar, Gorkys, Locke, and Reyes didn't get it done. The Braves willingness to trade Tyler Flowers means that they probably would have added him into the Peavy deal too. Even if the Padres didn't get back a young starter close to the majors they would have gotten three everyday players who would likely be ready a year from now -- it's weird to pass up a deal like that, especially when you're also clearing tons of payroll space. Who knows, maybe we'll start hearing the Braves-Peavy rumors again; like I said, if we lose out on A.J. Burnett it's anyone's guess what we'll do next.

It seems like all of the baseball MSM pundits out there keep saying they feel the Braves are going to get A.J. Burnett. This is the same chorus of wrong predictions we heard before we cut off negotiations with the Padres for Jake Peavy. So keep that in mind when the next Lawstarkenthal says we're the front runner.

It feels strange that you haven't heard any real rumors about where Mark Teixeira might end up.

The Mets are mighty quiet... mighty quiet.

Because we have such a high pick, I wonder if we'll pick anyone in the Rule 5 draft this year.

Here are several links for your Friday reading pleasure:

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Totally!

You can’t have a whole rotation of Latinos. FW needs to add 1-2 white guys to balance the rotation.

by buzzdeadwax on Dec 5, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but when a Latino lefty shows availability, the shit will hit the fan. Because, you know, we need a lefty.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 5, 2008 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Are there any switch-pitchers on the market?

by Bmacbandwagon on Dec 5, 2008 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Pat Venditte is the only one out there. And you know the Yankees are going to make sure he stays there.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 5, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

LATINO ROSTERBATION

Sign Ollie Perez. Sign Francisco Rodriguez and Fuentes. Start Blanco in Center. Sign Juan Rivera to play left. Trade Francoeur and someone else for Guillen, Soria, and Brayan Pena. Trade Kelly Johnson so we have Prado at second, trade McCann and someone else for Soto, Pie, and Marmol. Trade Chipper Jones for Pedro Feliz and J.C. Romero. And then swap Kotchman and someone else for Carlos Pena. Sign Julio Franco and get Gotay back

Rotation:
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Campillo
Perez
Reyes

Bullpen:
Rodriguez
Soria
Marmol
Gonzalez
Romero

Lineup:
Blanco
Escobar
C. Pena
Soto
Guillen
Rivera
Feliz
Prado

Bench:

Infante
Gotay
Franco
B. Pena
Pie

by VictorW on Dec 5, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Julio Franco might have to coach.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 5, 2008 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw you

I totally want to see him break his own records for oldest man to pinch-run, home run, pinch-hit, pinch-hit grand slam, substitute, and whatever simple records he holds just by playing at an older age.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 5, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough…you have another Latino in mind? I don’t want Ozzie Guillen coaching my team.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 5, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on

Ozzie would make it awesome.

But in terms of sensibility, I might go with maybe Manny Acta.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 5, 2008 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

promote from within… Chino Cadahia….

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Dec 5, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahahaha FUPA

Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.

by bigjoe on Dec 5, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Totally recommended.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 5, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That bullpen is awesome

Not so much the line-up and rotation.

by TradeAndruw on Dec 5, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhere, just somewhere

Billy Wagner needs to point out that some of them DO know English.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 5, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

they’re actually considered dutch, believe it or not. SEE: 2006 WBC starring andruw jones

I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.

by bigjoe on Dec 6, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll tell you what, Rick Vanden Hurk speaks some mean Spanish.

by cbwilk on Dec 7, 2008 4:16 AM EST up reply actions  

rick vanden hurk is REAL dutch though, not a dude from a dutch protectorate…fuck. world geography is so confusing

I probably care about sports way too much. Like, waaaaaaaaay too much.

by bigjoe on Dec 7, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s awesome… ESPN stinks.

by gondeee on Dec 5, 2008 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I may have already been discussed a million times here...

But doesn’t it seem like ESPN hates Atlanta. Not just the Braves, every team here. They are citist towards the Hawks, Falcons, Thrashers (some earned on their part), and Georgia Tech. They never show any coverage of any of our teams. This may have changed some recently, but in the last six months I got tired of it and stopped watching.

by someguy917 on Dec 5, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its just perception. Back in the 90’s and early 2000s they covered the 14 year Braves teams pretty regularly. It just gets lost in the shuffle due to the BoSox/Yankees coverage (which boosts ratings, I’m afraid).

by soup du jour on Dec 5, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Surprised to see...

…the SportingNews article say Wren would like to slot Vazquez behind Jurrjens in the rotataion. Think that’s true or just a misprint?

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 5, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve heard the same thing from D-Fab, but that might just be because he doesn’t seem to like Vazquez.

by gondeee on Dec 5, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about right

As long as it’s Early 2008 JJ and not Late 2008 JJ.

by Hizilla on Dec 5, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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