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There's a post on this site about every other day calling for the Braves to go after Ben Sheets, so I thought, if you can't ban them all then why not join them. I've been a fan of Sheets in the past, but this off-season everyone can't stop talking about his injuries, especially the ones he supposedly suffered at the end of last season. Those injuries have scared a lot of people; it certainly seems to have scared the Braves front office.

I get it, the Braves are shell-shocked from three-plus years of Mr. Glass, plus injuries last year to Smoltz, Glavine, and Hudson; and if we indeed give Smoltz and Glavine one last hurah next year, what will it mean if we add even more injury risk to the rotation in Ben Sheets. But I say we should add Sheets, and even give Smoltz and Glav a crack at the rotataion.

We've got a lot of young starters, from Charlie Morton to Jo-Jo Reyes to James Parr to Todd Redmond to some guy named Hanson. These are all guys who could arguably use more time in the minors to refine their craft, but could also be serviceable to decent in the major leagues right now. So let's let them stay in the minors, refine their craft, and be the backups to the old rebuilt bones and ligaments in the majors, and let's roll the dice on Sheets and Smoltz and even Glavine... again.

It's not the best option, but after everything that's fallen through so far this off-season, it may be all that is left without giving up more than we want in future talent. Tim Dierkes, a blogger who keeps up with the goings-on of the free agent market better than anyone else, says that the Rangers are really the only team with tepid at best interest in Ben Sheets. It's got to be worth trying to get Ben Sheets at a discounted price, or sign him to a contract with performance clauses that doesn't financially penalize the Braves if Sheets is unable to be healthy all season. Even with the risk of injury, a healthy Sheets is as good as anything else on the market, and worth taking a chance on.

Call it plan-D, but that's where the Braves are at right now.

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Sheets

I would love to see us sign Sheets, but by this point I would not be at all surprised to see him join the Rangers….

by Stephen in the UAE on Dec 19, 2008 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sheets

The only way he would join the Rangers is after we came to an agreement and sent him a term sheet….oh wait was that someone else??

by CabreraluvsBelinda on Dec 19, 2008 10:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok

I think that this offseason so far may be a blessing in disguise. This team isn’t really close to winning even if all the best laid plans came true. The reason I say this is because it should temper some of the expectations around this team for next year, giving them a year to play without the burden of being expected to make the playoffs.

  This would also give the organization a chance to break in some young guys in low pressure situations. Push the arb clock even further back on Hanson. They could wait for the inevitable breakdown of a guy like Campillo and then throw Redmond or Medlen into the mix. They could also wait till July to bring up Shafer, allowing him to get his feet wet for 2010.

 It would also be another year of development at the big league level for Reyes and Morton to take some hard knocks and refine their games. Very reminiscent of the 89-90 seasons for Glavine and Smoltz.

Then in August Huddy comes back and you will know whether to extend him a new contract or not. It would also give them time to shop for that big outfield bat that is needed without being too desperate.

Dunn is just waiting on Teix to sign and then open up a bidding war between the teams that were left out in the cold. But he would be a good addition to team.

The average fans will bitch and moan because no big stars have been brought in, but it would actually be the smarter move to just bide time till ‘10. Now Wren has the mask that the front office worked extremely hard to bring in some big players, but it just didn’t work out. I’m just rambling now, so I’ll end it.

by JFP on Dec 19, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

two guys who kill the Braves

Sheets and Perez, sign them both and be done with it.

by RehabReject on Dec 19, 2008 11:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s kind of implying that they won’t be that good if they are on the Braves since they perform best when pitching against us.

I’d like to have Sheets, but I have no interest in Perez. But then again, maybe Perez just needs to get out of NY and all the pressure that comes with pitching there.

by Sparhawk on Dec 19, 2008 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

remember what perez did in the pressure packed environment of pittsburgh? yeah.

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Dec 19, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You surprise me yet again Gondeee

When you’re sober, you really aren’t half bad;)

Sheets on a 2 or 3 year deal at the discounted rate it appears he will have to sign for seems like a great idea to me. Early reports look promising for both Smoltz and his beard(ucwhatididthere?), and I think he’ll be able to return to the rotation. If Glav makes it back too great, if not, go with the youngsters.

-1000 for being a dick.

by Rhyno18 on Dec 19, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ll gladly welcome Smoltz back, but I’ve always disliked Glavine. He can go back to the Mets for all I care.

by Sparhawk on Dec 19, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sheets

Is a true Ace unlike Burnett. We should be estatic that we lost out on Burnett b/c it would of turned out for the worst. Sheets is a real Ace and will cost less years and money. Plus if we sign Sheets, Smoltzie will more than likely come back.

Having Sheets, Smoltz, JJ, Vasquez is a complete transformation than what we have now. Plus the 5th starter can be another FA or one of our younger pitchers or go with Campillo. Since we do have young pitchers in Morton, Reyes, Parr, and Hanson they can get more time in the Minors and if we do have a injury to one of our Major League starters we can plug in our younger guys to evalute them and their future with the Braves.

by braves077 on Dec 19, 2008 12:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

  I agree. Get Sheets and Smoltz…ace potential from both and use Morton, Reyes et al to fill in for any injuries. That would be great, and I’d feel with comfortable with it than Burnett. Best case, contending. Worst case, injuries hit and the prospects get their feet wet. Either way, we’d look strong for 2010.

by Recon on Dec 19, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sheets is a true Ace unlike Burnett

How did you arrive at this conclusion? I’ll take Burnett’s numbers.

by Land-Man on Dec 19, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Both of them are #1 starters when healthy

I don’t get why some folks here like one and not the other.

by BraveBronco0121 on Dec 19, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Bet you couldn’t tell them apart side-by-side. The only significant difference between the two, in terms of numbers, is that Burnett got twice the commitment that Sheets will get from their new employers.

Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/

by ejruiz on Dec 19, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sign Sheets, pay his entire 2009 salary, then trade him to Texas ...

along with WMG client Peter Moylan in exchange for Neftali Feliz.

by JimK on Dec 19, 2008 12:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah because giving up a great set up guy is always the thing to do. Injury or not, Moylan was a very valuable asset to the pen and is needed there.

by RainDelay on Dec 21, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we could use Sheets, when he is healthy he is better than AJ any day
we get him for alot less, and he would be great as our ace
sign him to a 2-3 year deal with opt. for 3, or 4 years matters how much he plays

he’d be great with us and cant wait to get him

by bravesfan1047 on Dec 19, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Normally, I would love to have Ben Sheets. But the surprising lack of suitors for him makes me really wonder how bad he’s really injured or how close he is to something serious. I mean A.J. Burnett misses time for a lot of little things and he got five years, so I wonder if there’s some serious red flags going on with Sheets’s health report.

by beeniez on Dec 19, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

You have to believe that MLB teams know more about players health than what is released to the media. I have to believe that a late season injury that was reported to be minor just can’t be the reason for the lack of interest in Sheets. Can it?

by scstrato on Dec 19, 2008 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not just Manny, Smoltz, and call it done?

Sheets is an interesting gamble for sure. I don’t think it’s the worst idea, but I think it’d be better to resign Smoltz, and get Manny. We could get him for a 3yr deal since nobody else is offering that length. Right now, our best trade chips besides yunel and kj are morton, reyes, and campillo. However, none of them are really worth much right now because they haven’t proven themselves. Why not go with a rotation of Smoltz, Vazquez, Jair, Campillo/Morton/Reyes, and let somebody develop some trade value. There will be other pitchers available at the deadline when some teams are out of it and willing to move guys with a year or two left on the contract for some cheap controllable pitching.

In the meantine, Manny would give us that power righty bat, he’s still a great hitter, for a few years, he still will be. He’s a proven playoff monster, and we’d all love to have Smoltz and Manny on our side in the playoffs. We’ve seen there aren’t any good options in FA, and Dye would cost us about half what Manny does, but with some prospects too, and he’s only signed for a year(/w mutual option). And he’s not nearly the difference maker Manny is. In both quality, and star power. Signing Manny would send the message that we aren’t to be toyed with. That if nobody is willing to give up value for our young guys, we’ll showcase them backed by the strongest offense the Braves have had in years.

Signing Sheets would be a nice upside play as well, but we’ve seen the Braves seem apprehensive about that chronic back injury. If we simply give Morton/Reyes/Campillo room to develop, we may be able to land a trade for another proven starter, when there are more available. And by then hopefully our guys would have some trade value by then, so we don’t have to give up yunel or kj.

And if theres any money left, get Ohman back too.

by dave462 on Dec 19, 2008 3:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate Manny Ramirez

But I’m tired of the world ignoring the Braves. There’s no doubt he is a great hitter, so if we signed him we would get a power bat, and ESPN would HAVE to report about the Braves.

by someguy917 on Dec 19, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not worth it. Manny = cancer.

by cbwilk on Dec 19, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Torre seemed to handle him fine, and I always thought Torre and Bobby were the similar.

by someguy917 on Dec 19, 2008 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right on both accounts, but the thing is that he had just been traded to a new team, which was what he wanted. Manny was great in his L.A. time because he decided he wanted to be. He was a good teammate and a productive player. But, if you give him long enough, he’ll eventually decide he doesn’t feel like playing, particularly if the team isn’t doing well (as much as I’d like to say that won’t happen for the Braves in 09, it’s a real possibility). I just can’t see the Braves, given their history as an organization, trying to add him.

by cbwilk on Dec 19, 2008 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree somewhat

Torre couldn’t get him to cut his hair even though it was a “team rule”. Not saying this is a major issue, but I have to believe this kind of thing would not get “swept under the rug” with Bobby and the Braves. Once that starts and “Manny being Manny” takes hold it’s all down hill from there.

by scstrato on Dec 19, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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