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Willy Taveras

The answer to the Braves lead off problems is Willy Taveras.  He was a non-tendered free agent and would be the perfect fit for the Braves.  Everybody knows that the Braves need a lead off man and Willy Taveras would be the answer.  Then we have got to find some more starting pitchers.  Last, we need a right handed power hitter.  We were also ripped off when we lost Rafael Furcal!!!!! Who's out there with me?

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Nobody. Nobody is out there with you if you’re saying Willy Taveras is the answer to anything.

by cbwilk on Dec 18, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

My reaction was isn’t Willy Taveras a pitcher? Then I remembered I was thinking of Julian Tavares.

I wouldn’t want someone named “Willy” to be on the team.

It’s a slow work day.

by Sparhawk on Dec 18, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Leadoff hitters should get on base a lot.

Taveras doesn’t.

by matches on Dec 18, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Furthermore

Taveras’s specialty is base-stealing. Something the Braves just don’t really do.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 18, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

we already have 2 speedsters (blanco, anderson) that are better than taveras.

by heap16 on Dec 18, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

and thats not saying a lot

by heap16 on Dec 18, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Smoltz’s Beard smells funny.

zomgseewhatididthurr???

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 18, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

damn you…

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

All of the responses above me are valid.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

and now, all the responses above me are valid.

by VegasAces on Dec 18, 2008 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

You people say Blanco is the answer?!?!?! He ended up batting .251 with 13 stolen bases. That is not what we should have as a leadoff hitter.

by knightman on Dec 18, 2008 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

i didnt say that, i just said he’s better than taveras. plus, we really dont need another fast OF with no power. the whole point has been to get a POWER HITTING outfielder. ADAM DUNN PLEASE

by heap16 on Dec 18, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Salaries

Blanco = Peanuts
Tavarez = Real currency

Cost of Peanuts > Cost of Real Currency

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 18, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Blanco’s not the answer either. (Nor is Josh Anderson, FWIW.)

by matches on Dec 18, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

How in the world is Taveras the answer when Blanco, who you don't like, is a much more useful player.

.366 OBP. I can’t believe Taveras is that awful at hitting because his home park is freaking Coors.

by VictorW on Dec 18, 2008 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Taveras?

Why spend money on a older and powerless version of Josh Anderson? Anderson will succeed if he is given an every day job.

by nick9314 on Dec 18, 2008 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Anderson?

When you say Anderson will succeed in an everyday job, do you mean it like he will be more successful than Willy Taveras, or that he will be an above average CFer?

by JFP on Dec 18, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know how nick9314 meant it, but I would say, yes, if given the chance to play every day, Anderson would be better than Taveras, and while he might not be an above average centerfielder, he would be a good, serviceable major leaguer.
I really like Josh. He’s very passionate about the game and he has a ton of upside. The guy is a great outfielder, so there’s no worry about his defense and he’s ridiculously fast. He doesn’t walk much at all and really, that’s a killer for a speed guy, but he puts the ball in play and personally I think for fast guys that’s the most important thing. You can create a lot of situations if you’re willing to hit the ball and run. It’s not a method I’d recommend for somebody without world class speed, but if you’ve got it, use it.
Anderson isn’t any kind of long term answer in centerfield, that’s Jordan Schafer, but he would be a decent answer for a little while; certainly better than Taveras and at a fraction of the cost.

by cbwilk on Dec 18, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

TON of upside? Really, cause that would make both Shafer and Hernandez very expendable.

by JFP on Dec 18, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not at all how any reasonable person would take what I wrote. Thanks for playing.

by cbwilk on Dec 18, 2008 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ricky Bobby is Nascar!

LOOK AT WILLY TAVERAS STATS FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS!THEN TELL ME WHO IS THE DUMMY!

by knightman on Dec 18, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

2005: 75 OPS+
2006: 74 OPS+
2007: 89 OPS+
2008: 56 OPS+

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

what

You say this like it’s a bad thing. If its so bad whats with all the plusses?

by JFP on Dec 18, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Haha, well played.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

awwwwwwwwwwesome

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Dec 18, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

danny, was this you? fucking hilarious

+1

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Dec 18, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

SPEED MAKES THE BRAVES GO!

IF THERE IS NO POWER HITTERS OUT THERE WE NEED SPEED!IF I REMEMBER RIGHT WE WON THE PLAYOFFS WITH FURCAL AT THE TOP OF THE ORDER

by knightman on Dec 18, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, this may be the best baseball retort I’ve ever heard.

by someguy917 on Dec 18, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Ballsy move by Bobby…

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There's your trivia question answer to:

“Name the only position player to earn a World Series-ending save with legal ramifications behind it”

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Dec 18, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome.

43 runs scored in only 4 games in the NLCS! More than a run per inning. It’s remarkable that so many people have forgotten that performance.

by matches on Dec 18, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

EPIC

+a bazillion

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Dec 18, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I missing something...

Why is the comment green? If you leave a bad ass comment like royhobbs obviously did, does it turn green? Is it like being slimed? Thanks for your help!

by mvandonsel on Dec 18, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

its “recommended”. which means its awesome

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Dec 18, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell yeah it was awesome!

And who determines if they are ‘recommended’? gondee?

by mvandonsel on Dec 18, 2008 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If you click the “actions” link you can either “flag” or “rec” it.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 18, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info...

I thought it was some sort of magical button that the gondeee had. If so, I was going to say that he wields waaaaaay too much power around here.

by mvandonsel on Dec 18, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

"F" green

That shit is down right GOLDEN! Made my day.

by scstrato on Dec 19, 2008 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

theres so power hitters on the market right now?

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Dec 19, 2008 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

that should be "no"*

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Dec 19, 2008 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

are you attempting to rationalize willy taveras?

BIG JOE SUCK ONE

by bigjoe on Dec 19, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

no im questioning the assumption that Adam Dunn doesnt hit for power

"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."

by Swo12bv on Dec 21, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Dayman

Fighter of the (k)nightman

by yondaime4 on Dec 19, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

+1 to both of you.

“What is going on…up here?”

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 19, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Master of karate and friendship, for everyone.

by cbwilk on Dec 19, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Champion of the Sun.

by yondaime4 on Dec 20, 2008 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Nightman

night man, sneaky and mean
?something? inside my dreams
i think i love you
you make me wanna cry, you make me wanna die
i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you night man

every night you come into my room and pin me down with your strong arms you pin me down and i try to fight you you come inside me you fill me up and i become the night man

ust two men sharing the night
It might seem wrong but it’s just right
It’s just two men sharing each other
It’s just two men like loving brothers
One on top, and one on bottom
One inside, and one is out
One is screaming he’s so happy
The other’s screaming a passionate shout
It’s the Night Man
The feeling so wrong it’s right man
the feeling so wrong…
I can’t fight you man when you come inside me and pin me down your strong hands and I’ll become the Night….the passionate, passionate Night Man.

They took you Night Man
and you don’t belong to them
They left me in a world of darkness
without your sexy hands
and I miss you Night Man
so bad.

by yondaime4 on Dec 20, 2008 2:06 AM EST reply actions  

“I’m up to here right now!”

by cbwilk on Dec 20, 2008 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 20, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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