Well I mean, you brought up a post I made nearly 6 months ago and called me an asshole over it. I guess now I’m the insecure one because I felt I needed to respond to such a thing? And here you are still calling me names over a post…made on the internet. And then you get mad because I researched it. Have you never been on the internet before? Do you not know how this works? I mean where you come from can you throw rocks at someone and expect them to keep walking? No you are just a name calling petulant child.

and here is the entirety of my post for your viewing pleasure:

I’m just gonna quote this real quick…….

Tommy Hanson

    The Future: A potential middle-of-the-rotation starter, Hanson has moved quickly while making adjustments against experienced competition. He will likely return to Myrtle Beach, but could earn a midseason promotion.

-Bill Ballew, 2008 Baseball America Prospect Handbook

Also from Bill Ballew in the chat-wrap for the Braves Top 10 List:

 Q: clv from way back in the hills of nc asks:
It’s great to see that you think so highly of Jurrjens. The bigger question is what type of a ceiling do you see Tommy Hanson having?
 A:

Bill Ballew: Well, howdy, pardner. Ol’ Tommy is one tenacious pitcher. He doesn’t have an overpowering pitch, which brings him down a notch in some people’s book, but he can throw four pitches for strikes. I believe he has a chance to be a solid middle-of-the-rotation pitcher in the big leagues.

Yeah the scouts people have been quoting were, in fact, Baseball America’s own scouts. In fact, it was Bill Ballew. For those that don’t know, BA assigns their scouts to teams and those guys track the players of their assigned teams for the entire season and when it is all said and done and the put the book together, that scout writes the report for the team(s) he was assigned. Bill Ballew has been the editor for the Braves since at least 2003 (when I started reading BA). I would think if anyone knows Braves prospects (outside the Braves scouts), it would have to be Ballew.

Now with that said, I know a lot of people have quoted scouts and what not who say that Tommy Hanson has middle of the rotation stuff and middle of the rotation potential all season, but the big thing with Hanson has been that he has added some pretty good velocity this year. Hanson also started throwing a slider which has quickly become a go-to outpitch. So some things have changed for Hanson this season.

Consider this: most of these people who have been quoting these scouts are quoting people from last offseason. Tommy Hanson absolutely exploded this year so there is a lot of talk, and so since we all don’t get to see Tommy Hanson pitch, we use what we have read about him last offseason. Now we have to wait for the real scouting reports to start trickling in this offseason after everyone has been able to see him in person and come away with their impressions.

Anyways, point being, don’t start bashing people about what they have read when your source contradicts itself.

I’m no scout, but I watched him play in Rome (15 or 20 games), and 6 at Myrtle Beach. He’s good with the glove, good arm, but he is indeed, as cbwilk said, a big guy. Looks like a 3B to me, but I guess there’s no body type or profile that is set in stone regarding who can play where or what. My gut feeling, however, is that he’ll end up at third. Pope doesn’t appear to be advancing with the bat, Campbell is one big question mark, Gilmore just got traded, so who is next in line? Samuel Sime? Adam Coe?
No, I say! Brandon Hicks!
And that’s my scouting report….

I appreciate your position jeg. I didn’t mean to call you out or anything, I was just wondering where you were coming from. Definitely, if you haven’t seen a player, all you can go on is what you read. My guess is Hicks looked good at short in college and that hung over to his pro debut.
I’m not sold on him as a hitter. Personally I think right now Travis Jones is a better player, but he’s not athletic enough to play short, so Hicks gets all the love.

Yeah, I’ve heard that Jordan’s defense is so good that he’ll be in the majors for that alone…regardless of how his stick plays. I was just hoping to get some feedback from some people that may have seen the two.

Thanks for the lineup info. I would rather have the guy with a a higher walk rate who’s projected to go 20/20, than the guy with a lower walk rate who’s projected to go 10/40…but that’s just me.

I really enjoy hearing from those of you who have seen them in person. Many thanks. I still would prefer Jordan out of the two though.

i believe the dodgers use this system pretty regularly in breaking in talent. i know it seems to be a more conservative approach and the braves are typically pretty aggressive when it comes to promoting a prospect when they enjoy at least moderate success at AA. There is nothing wrong with bringing these 21 and 22 year olds to the show if they are ready but it seems like most of the guys we insert directly into the rotation wind up as roadkill

i think its far fetched to say we didnt give up anything of value, the fact of the matter is we wont know what we gave up until Andrus and Feliz actually play in a major league uniform (or if they ever do).

the way i look at it is we gave up some prospects one we sold high on, (salty) and then two really young guys who we thought we could afford to lose… in return we got one fo the top3 1B and a very good reliever. which we turned into Kotchman and Marek and DeVall. IF DeVall turns into Santana (not a comparison just an example) and Andrus and Feliz dotn do anythign than this is the greatest trade in the history of the world, based off your thinking… which is fine. but the way msot people value a trade is at the time it occured. esp when u are dealing with projection of young players still. in ten years if Andrus and Feliz are all stars and DeVall doesnt do anything and MArek sucks. then Ill agree this was a bad trade in hindsight. But until we have some factual proof that Adrus and Feliz> Kotchman, Marek and DeVall… ill continue to beleive the trade was at minimum decent

I really wish everyone would figure out not to engage in a discussion with this son.of.sourman. He never says anything worth hearing and he argues just to argue. Just say no everyone!