Ibanez signs with the Phillies
Didn't care about him when he played in the Pacific Northwest, I just knew I didn't want us to sign him. Now I can hate him 19 times a year.
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I really don't know why everyone at ESPN has a mancrush on this guy
by BraveBronco0121 on Dec 12, 2008 9:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's a grithustler with calm eyes
It’s weird for a guy like him to get that kind of attention since he’s not a 5’9" white guy.
by VictorW on Dec 12, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only reason gondeee greenlit it to the front page
Was so that eventually, RainDelay would see it, and breathe a great sigh of relief.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Dec 12, 2008 9:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where is he, with his clips of Ibanez’s gold glove fielding?
by sddbaker on Dec 12, 2008 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Ibanez but 10 mil per year? The Phils will regret that one by 2011.
by matches on Dec 12, 2008 9:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow….now all we have to do is throw Gonzo out there to take down Utley, Howard and Ibanez…not smart stacking three lefties in a row. And here they thought Burrell’s defense was horrible, wait till they get a look at Ibanez.
by jwrocks on Dec 12, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was going to post the exact same thing. Boone Logan is gonna earn his paycheck against those three.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 12, 2008 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why in the world didn’t Philly just resign Burrell? With the way the market is going, you think he’d take something like $36M over 3? $6M more and you get younger, better player and you don’t lose a first round draft pick. I’m SO confused.
by VictorW on Dec 12, 2008 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
When was the last time a free agent that a collective contingent of Braves fans (like Talking Chop) heavily supported, actually ended up signing with the Braves?
Would Adam Dunn be the first in almost a decade, if he were to sign for Atlanta?
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Dec 12, 2008 11:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Front page baby!!!
I’m kind of a big deal.
by Rhyno18 on Dec 12, 2008 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I heard you had many leather-bound books and your apartment smells of rich mahogany.
by VictorW on Dec 12, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+100 to both of you.
I take it you’re friends with Merlin Olson?
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 12, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well he does come over occasionally
"We win today, that's two in a row... if we win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before..."
by Swo12bv on Dec 13, 2008 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally different subject
Anyone notice that gondeee bumped the FanShots section to be right underneath the FanPosts? Awesome.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Dec 12, 2008 11:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I did indeed
but the last few fanshots have been completely ignored anyway. Well … almost completely.
by scstrato on Dec 12, 2008 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my one friend who is a phillies fan (AND A PROFESSIONAL WRITER) is attempting to rationalize this by saying “he’s a great clubhouse guy”, “he doesn’t strike out 160 times per year”, and “manny is worse defensively”. hilarious
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Dec 12, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey now.
He’s a good guy, been one of my favorites on the Mariners for the last two years, but he can’t play in the field anymore. I’m glad we didn’t sign him, but he is still a good guy.
by Perrinbar on Dec 12, 2008 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we need a decent LHS
jwrocks is right. We need a decent lefty starter or two to match up against the Phillies.
Even at his best, Chuck James gives up too many fly balls for us to put him out there in Philly. He has given up more dingers to Philly than any other team over the last three years.
Reyes and Glavine are at the extreme ends of the baseball lifespan, one young and unproven, the other old and unhealthy.
The Braves could have a very impressive array of righty starters by the end of this summer, but unless we have a lefty or two to run against the Phillies, they’ll be the ones still playing in October.
by JimK on Dec 12, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that is Mark Redman.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Dec 12, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, that is russ ortiz
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Dec 12, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not as simple as that. Have you even taken the time to look at the split stats for the pitchers we have? I just looked at Jurrjens stats from last year and Vazquez’s career stats and they’re completely capable of shutting down a hitter no matter what side of the plate he steps into the batters box on. An impressive righty starter is better than a mediocre lefty starter.
I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 12, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?
“An impressive righty starter is better than a mediocre lefty starter.” The hell he is! It’s been well-established that no matter what the so-called “talent difference” is between the two, a LHP’s lefthandedness makes your rotation better. Period.
But seriously, I totally agree with your analysis. Keep up the good work. Perhaps we can kill this notion some day.
by buzzdeadwax on Dec 12, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Macay McBride once got out of a bases-loaded jam by outing Ryan Howard, thus proving that all lefties are always effective against the best of lefty hitters. Duh.
My objection with the constant notion is the way people phrase it. We do not need a lefty for the sake of having a lefty. Having an effective lefty would be nice, but currently, there are none available, except maybe the age and injury risk Randy Johnson, and with Sabathia being signed, so I guess I’d like to see the aspirations people have in mind when they paraphrase that we “need” a lefty.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Dec 12, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This will all balance out in a few years, since all our pitching prospects in A ball are lefthanded.
by 10-4 on Dec 12, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you balance out a five-man rotation?
Have a #1 and #2 caliber righty and lefty pitchers, and have a 5th pitcher that stunk so bad you want them out of the rotation, thus creating true balance. Fung shui!
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Dec 12, 2008 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s better to have an effective lefty in the bullpen to use in late-inning situations against Utley/Howard/Ibanez. Fortunately, the braves appear to be stocking up on guys who can potentially fill that role. The downside is, if Ohman isn’t re-signed, the only one of those guys who can also get RH hitters out is Gonzalez.
by buzzdeadwax on Dec 12, 2008 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Despite the fact that Ibanez is vastly overrated by the ESPN crowd, this is a good deal for the Phillies
Not the best they could have made, but a good one nonetheless. I don’t know why Burrell wasn’t re-upped, it would have made for a more balanced lineup as he’s a righty, but oh well. Ibanez should be worth 6 WAR over this deal, and that’s the kind of money he got.
by BraveBronco0121 on Dec 12, 2008 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ibanez is horrible defensively and costs about 2 wins a season. and he’s entering his decline phase. so yeah.
BIG JOE SUCK ONE
by bigjoe on Dec 12, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t be more pleased that he signed with the Phillies. Acutally, the only thing that would have made me happier is if he signed with the Mets. Either way, those two wins or so he costs his team (that bigjoe mentioned) won’t be coming off our ledger.
/sigh of relief
by VegasAces on Dec 12, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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