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Braves' Middle Infield in Flux?

Via Ken Rosenthal:

The Braves not only could include shortstop Yunel Escobar in a deal for Padres right-hander Jake Peavy, but they also are drawing serious trade interest in second baseman Kelly Johnson.

About 10 clubs have inquired about Johnson; the Cardinals could move one of their outfielders for a second baseman, and the Diamondbacks want to acquire a left-handed hitting replacement for Orlando Hudson.

The Braves could turn to some combination of Omar Infante, Martin Prado and Derek Lillibridge at one of the infield positions, but they do not want to create vacancies at both.

I've said for a while that I like the idea of moving Kelly Johnson for a starting pitcher or for a power outfield bat, but I don't really like the idea of moving both Kelly and Yunel. I think Martin Prado can do the job at second base, but Omar Infante would be a significant downgrade at short, and would take away our most versitile utility player. I'm am also not yet convinced that "Derek" Lillibridge is a legit everyday major league hitter.

One thing that we haven't heard too much about is a return of Rafael Furcal. If the Braves do trade away both Kelly and Yunel, could they use some of that free agent money on Fookey? While it is interesting, and we really haven't had a leadoff hitter since he left, he's likely to command a lot of money when our priorities should really be adding power and starting pitching. It's a fun, nostalgic thought for a moment, but it may not be a realistic scenario.

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That’s actually not the first time I’ve seen him called Derek. Wonder if he has a brother?

There’s always Eckstein and Counsell.

by TradeAndruw on Nov 5, 2008 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

ive heard it 3 or 4 times. where the hell is Derek coming from?

by SayHeyWerd on Nov 5, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We cannot afford to part with both of them, but I’ll be very surprised if we end up keeping both of them.

by matches on Nov 5, 2008 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

I just don’t understand why people are so eager to break up a middle infield that is effective, cheap, young, and under team control for 3 more years. Do you know how many teams would kill to be in that position? Kelly’s just about average as a fielder, and well above average offensively for the position. Escobar’s a great fielder, and is above average offensively for his position as well. That’s something you build around, not trade away. Unless they get a package that completely blows them away, I see no reason to consider trading either.

by drdonkeypunch on Nov 5, 2008 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

you know what…if we traded escobar, i would be more than happy to welcome fookie back. he had a couple of great years in LA (and one not so great one). he’s still quite young, only thing is, the fielding dropoff is pretty huge.

Following the Braves...one long hard drink at a time.

by bigjoe on Nov 5, 2008 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Derek Lillibridge is OK, he’s fast but he can’t really hit like Brent. Of course, he’s a pizza delivery guy in Akron, OH, so he doesn’t get to spend a lot of time in the cage. But sources say he does have some trade value for teams looking to upgrade their concessions.

by cbwilk on Nov 5, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hee hee

Laughed out loud….I like it!

by secondbass on Nov 5, 2008 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He could . . .

Join Kyle Davis and Brian McCain on the concessions crew. Out in Kansas City.

Typos and similar-sounding faux-pas are fine, but mistaking “Derek” for “Brent” is pretty bad. How much does Rosenthal get paid to “analyze” baseball again?

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Nov 5, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he was thinking Derek Lilliquist?

I mean, it wasn’t that long ago that he was a prospect…wait, hold on a sec – I’m going to look it up.

Nope, that was 1989. Sorry.

by buzzdeadwax on Nov 5, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Trading Escobar would be a monumental mistake. We have him under team control for five more seasons and he’s shown himself to be a top ten or better ML shortstop. He’s exactly the sort of player that is most valuable in baseball. Trading him now impedes our ability to compete in the next five years.

Now Johnson, he’s a decent player, but he’s only under team control for three seasons and he’s going to be making decent salaries now that he’s hitting arbitration. I’d like to package him with a few A-ball prospects for Peavy. Is Prado a replacement, no, but he’s cheap for 2009, and we can figure out whether he’s merely a good infield reserve/pinch hitter or whether he can actually play second base for us. Long term we still have Lillibridge available to shift over if need be.

by 17843 on Nov 5, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

I agree. Escobar should be untouchable. I don’t think San Diego wants KJ because I believe they have some good 2nd base prospects already.

by BravesFan on Nov 5, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not keep KJ and trade Prado?

I’m growing wearing of the trade Kelly / keep Prado sentiment often expressed here.

Hitting near the top of the order, the perennially high OBP Kelly Johnson tires out pitchers (just before they face Chipper) with his keen eye. And when Chipper is out, Kelly has enough punch to fill in at the #3 spot in the batting order. His streak at the end of the season shows that Johnson is just beginning to hit his prime. And under Hubbard’s tutelage he has become an adequate 2B. There’s not a very long list of lefty hitting second basemen with power in baseball history. We’re lucky to have KJ.

Prado makes too many errors at 2B and he’s not quick to the ball. Unlike Infante, he simply doesn’t have the range to even fill in at short. Prado is best suited to a subsitute role at 3B, backing up Chipper’s frequent absences, and pinch-hitting. His hitting has been so consistent that he should be a useful piece in a trade. Long term our only reason to keep him is if his hitting improves to the point where he becomes the succession plan for Chipper at 3B. But I doubt he’ll ever have Kelly Johnson’s power, or be able to run up the pitch count of the opposition the way Johnson does.

by JimK on Nov 5, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

Prado doesn’t have any trade value at all.

by 17843 on Nov 5, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Prado=Charles Thomas?

Remember Thomas wasn’t more of a prospect than Prado was, then he played well in 2004, and the Braves were able to include him in the Hudson deal.

by buzzdeadwax on Nov 5, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Response

I was going to respond this to this comment (a worthy comment by the way), but it expanded into the story I just posted on the front page. I’d love to have your and others’ thoughts on this.

by gondeee on Nov 6, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder why all those teams want KJ?

…hey, maybe he’s actually pretty good!

by sddbaker on Nov 5, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

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