Best Braves Rookie?
Of the players who made their MLB debut with the Braves this year, who will have the best career?
Consider all aspects in your response, position played, peak years vs longevity, probability of reaching peak, etc....
For this question, I am thinking peak years(if they are good enough) out weigh longevity.
The players that come to mind, in no particular order, are:
Charlie Morton, James Parr, Brent Lillibridge, Gregor Blanco, Francisley Bueno, Jason Perry
Did I miss anyone?
My order would be Lillibridge, Morton, Parr, Blanco, Bueno and Perry. I believe Lillibridge will eventually start hitting again, despite his struggles all around this year.
But, am I under-rating Blanco? I don't see him developing into a starting OF on a playoff team. What is the ceiling for Parr and Morton? If they can actually harness their stuff, will they be more valuable than Lillibridge?
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Eh.
I’d go with Morton, Lilli, Blanco, Parr, Bueno and Perry. That said, MLB considers Jurrjens and Campillo rookies and they’re clearly our best.
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by ejruiz on Oct 2, 2008 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Jurrjens, Campillo, and I think Josh Anderson if he still qualifies.
Jurrjens, Campillo, Morton, Blanco for me.
First two should be obvious.
I like Blanco a lot cause of his plate discipline and on base skills, but he has absolutely no power. His slugging percentage is barely above .300. Ugh… I think with some adjustments, he can become a .380 OBP guy. You see him strike out looking on a lot of pitches about an inch or two off the plate, and once he figures that umps routinely call those for strikes, I think he’ll be able to adjust and foul them off. Blanco becomes expendable once Schafer makes it up.
As much as I like Lillibridge, I’m worried if he’ll be able to hit big league pitching. Above A ball, his K to BB ratio is like 3:1. In the bigs, he has like 3 walks to 23 Ks. I don’t care about Ks as long as a player can walk, but it looks like he’s getting fooled or overpowered by more advanced pitching since he’s not getting the walks he did at A ball. He has good potential though, but he needs to develop plate discipline or pitch recognition.
I like Morton cause he’s got great pitches. His stuff is definitely better than Jair’s, but Jair pitches like a veteran. I just hope Charlie can figure it out eventually.
by VictorW on Oct 2, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jurrjens, Morton, Brandon Jones, Phil Stockman, Anderson, Clint Sammons, Lillibridge, Parr, Blanco, Campillo, Jeff Ridgway, Bueno, Perry
by cbwilk on Oct 2, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so, Morton >> Lillibridge?
My title is misleading, my bad. The key is the player making their MLB debut. The reason behind that, is for my simulation league I can keep 1 of those guys. Jair would be nice, but he’s not available..
Back on point, I am hearing so far that Charlie Morton is more likely to be better than Brent Lillibridge. As I look over the minor league numbers for Lillibridge, I do see the BB/K change drastically from A to AA/AAA. That is concerning, enough to note anyways.
The thing with Morton is I am somewhat concerned about his higher walk rate in the low minors. He was good at AAA this year, and perhaps that is the sign of a breakout…
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by dbimberg on Oct 2, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Morton
I think anything really before his breakout last year needs to be dismissed. He is a totally different player/pitcher now. I think that he is the best of that bunch, and will have the best career.
by gopherbroke on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of Charlie's pitches are good
It looks like he doesn’t throw a 4 seam at all, and throws a 2-seam with good movement at 92 MPH. An average sinker. Big breaking curve. Good changeup. Maybe very good. Good slider that’s pretty hard (85 MPH). I hear he has a 4 seam that averages like 94 or so, but he can’t control it.
But like everyone says, he’s a headcase. If Charlie had Jair’s mentality and reasonable control, he would be a #2 pitcher at minimum. He’s a wild card and getting kind of “old” for his development, but based on his pure, raw stuff, he could be a very good pitcher. Just don’t know if he can reach his potential.
by VictorW on Oct 4, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Take
Morton, Blanco, Parr, Bueno, Perry and Lillibridge.
Morton’s only problem (IMO) is his head, I think he will find the confidence but I have to admit there’s very little justification for this opinion.
The hit on Blanco (no pun intended) will be his lack of power, but I think the defense, OB and speed will play well at the top of our lineup.
Looking closely at Lilli, he did very well in the lower minors against lesser talent. As he progressed he struggled more as the talent improved. His strike zone judgement this year was horrible and that is a BIG problem when it comes to free swingers. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think he makes it to a full fledged major leaguer.
One more thought, as a fellow SIM player have you checked out SOMworld dot com? They have some decent information up right now regarding the Braves, although the content is specifically related to stratomatic. It still would come in very useful if you play a different SIM and the subscription is fairly cheap.
by scstrato on Oct 2, 2008 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SOMworld
I had never heard of this site before. I use Dynasty League Baseball, but the information may be appliclable. Plus, the $25 for the ultimate subscription is quite cheap. If it doesn’t help, then I don’t pay again next year.
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by dbimberg on Oct 6, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know that anyone really stood out besides Jurrjens. I would like to see some more starts from a healthy Morton and Parr. Morton has a great fastball and good movement on his pitches. Blanco and Anderson at the least will be useful major leaguers. I hate to give up on pitchers, but Reyes’ upside is limited and he looks pretty awful, Maybe a year at AAA will help him. Lilli needs to cut down on his swing if he will ever be effective in the majors. I’m on the fence with Brandon Jones. Is he a 4th outfielder or the next Jermaine Dye? I could go either way.
by BravesFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The unfortunate thing about Reyes..
…is he’s proved he can play at the AAA level and even dominate at times, so really sending him back to Richmond isn’t going to do anything for him really. Unless they completely overhaul his mechanics, right now his upside is the pen – and it’s kinda crowded. But if Ohman leaves – we’re going to need a lefty killer though I don’t think Reyes fits the bill on that one either.
I bet we could get rid of him for spare parts, addition by subtraction. I’m not saying we’ll get anything worth writing home about.
by RainDelay on Oct 4, 2008 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Jo-Jo can be a LOOGY
Career MLB split
Righties: .314/.394/.531
Lefties: .224/.312/.368
by VictorW on Oct 4, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One problem...
he doesn’t throw strikes and we have a full house in the bullpen that already can’t do that. I see him as a piece in a package deal this Winter.
by BBFAN46 on Oct 6, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re probably right, but maybe without the pressure he can work on things without feeling the pressure in AAA. Or trade him to KC, since their GM seems to love our players unconditionally…lol
by BravesFan on Oct 4, 2008 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bueno and perry are garbage, so they’re out. lillibridge didn’t hit a lick, so he’s done. parr has no stuff to speak of whatsoever, and started getting lit after his magical first couple of starts. blanco is a corner OF with no power and he fears contact. the OBP would be nice if he were providing us with a higher average and more than NINTEEN XBH IN 430 AB. for someone who was on base as much as he was, he scored an abnormally low amount of runs, probably because of the cubanacity of escobar.
so the winner by default is charlie morton. who had a WHIP of over 1.5, an ERA over 6, and a near even K:BB
…its gonna be a long 2009
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by bigjoe on Oct 5, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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