Bonds

by iLukeisamazing on Nov 15, 2007 9:01 PM EST Comment 9 comments

Barry Bonds has been formally indicted by a Northern California grand jury. According to published reports the indictment included 4 counts of perjury and 1 count of Obstruction of Justice, stemming from Bonds telling a federal grand jury that he did not knowingly use performance-enhancing drugs.

According to ESPN, he could face 5 years in prison/3 years supervised probation for EACH count of perjury, AND 10 years in prison/3 years supervised probation for the obstruction charge, if convicted.

What do you think?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112487

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Bonds

I think that the federal government, after years of trying, finally got enough dumb people in the same room to get an indictment. And sadly, I suspect there's a fair chance that they'll find 12 sheep...I mean people...daft enough to convict.

If this Mitchell report is worth the paper it's written on it'll show half the league was on steroids, HGH, or any number of other performance enhancers.

Here's my question...nobody believes Bonds when he says he didn't know what his trainer was giving him, but everybody believes Sheffield when he says he didn't know what he got from Bonds.

Riiiight.

Barry should have been involved in something less offensive to the American public...like say cocaine or crystal meth.

Sigh.

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by HailStonz on Nov 16, 2007 8:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yes, but....

"If this Mitchell report is worth the paper it's written on it'll show half the league was on steroids, HGH, or any number of other performance enhancers."
Yes, but half the league didn't commit perjury or obstruction of justice.

"Here's my question...nobody believes Bonds when he says he didn't know what his trainer was giving him, but everybody believes Sheffield when he says he didn't know what he got from Bonds."
Who is everybody? I don't believe him, but that is not really relevant....Sheffield also didn't commit perjury.

Sounds to me like they have a pretty solid case that Bonds not only took illegal substances as allegedly proved by various tests, but that he knowingly obstructed justice and lied about it.

by secondbass on Nov 16, 2007 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bonds supporters

Every person who supports Bonds uses anecdotal evidence of other players who have used steroids... basically, they just turn the game around on other players instead of Bonds. There is no way to defend him, period.

He lied, now the feds have proof, I couldn't be happier.

by iLukeisamazing on Nov 16, 2007 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Right

The whole no crime until the investigation begins route.

by 17843 on Nov 16, 2007 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Um, no....

Steroids are an illegal drug regardless of whether or not they were banned in baseball. An investigation was lunched into the use of such substances in baseball, Bonds was suspect, was asked to testify, and allegedly lied about his involvemnt. So there are 2 crimes for ya, 3 if you include obstruction, which I think we should.

by secondbass on Nov 16, 2007 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Steroids?

[politics alert]
If he broke the law regarding steroids he would've been charged for it. The feds were merely following the smoke and caught him lying. Bonds is scum, but serving jail time for lying in an investigation is disgusting no matter who it is, especially since he actually wasn't under investigation, Anderson was.[/politics]

Now, has anyone seen a legal calendar for this thing? How likely is it to go to trial before the season? During? Or is it liable to drag on until after next season?

by 17843 on Nov 16, 2007 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Barroid

The only problem I have, is NOW they catch him! NOW it's a big deal! C'mon, he's already done what he wanted to do by cheating, if they were going to do something, why didn't they do it earlier? This is so crazy.

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by Chipper on Nov 17, 2007 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Process

Indictments are handled by the federal government. I doubt they really care about Barry Bonds the baseball player and his cheating, what they care about is Barry Bonds the citizen and the charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. You can't expect the Grand Jury to suddenly set their timetable to deliver an indictment just to stop Barry Bonds the baseball player from breaking a record.

by 17843 on Nov 18, 2007 1:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs