Well, that Solves it!
General manager John Schuerholz announced the decision Tuesday, shortly after breaking the news to Jones at Turner Field.
So that's one less thing we'll have to talk about this off-season.
I agree, that is bizarre. Apparently the Braves believed, and John Schuerholz stated, that the figure Boras was asking for was beyond approachable for Atlanta. I still have a problem with this decision, since it furthers the chances of us losing out on draft pick compensation. Knowing that the Braves won't offer AJ arbitration, teams that wish to try and sign him can simply wait until after the arbitration deadline. They won't have to worry whether or not the Braves were going to slap arbitration on him. Now, they could offer him arbitration if they felt confident another team had a deal in place and were just waiting for the deadline to pass, but then why not just keep it a secret in the first place.
If this was a "gentlemanly" decision on the part of Schuerholz, then I may, for the first time, have to disagree with his move. On the other hand, perhaps he thinks it will ignite rather than temper the interest other teams have in Andruw. Their thinking, and Schu's thinking, could be that if Atlanta, Andruw's preferred destination, is out of the picture then negotiations would get serious more quickly than if Atlanta was still in contention for him.
Well shoot, like most moves that are made we'll have to just wait and see how this one pans out. Most of us figured AJ would be gone this off-season, but I don't think anyone thought it would happen like this. Looks like my grand scenario won't even get a chance to get off the ground.
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Druw
I hope he ends up somewhere and has a productive career from here on out, and he will be missed, but it was time to go.
by NorCalAtlFan on Oct 3, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no longer OUR fat chipmunk
Fine with me. Anybody who thinks he's in his physical prime, by all means, please take him. Make sure you stock up on twinkies and donuts though.
Good riddance to .222
by RehabReject on Oct 3, 2007 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
andruw
Here's hoping we sign Aaron Rowand or Mike Cameron for 8 million, preferably Roward. We can give Andruw's money to Tex, a player that's actually earned his money.
by bigjoe on Oct 3, 2007 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Way
by tmsnow on Oct 4, 2007 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way
by tmsnow on Oct 4, 2007 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get real guys
btw, andruw led the league in outfield putouts again this year just in case you were going to start talking about him losing step (maybe a 1/2 step, but not a full one yet).
by ryan c on Oct 3, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im guessing
by chance13ga on Oct 4, 2007 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read somewhere...
I wouldn't give Smoltzie that kind of contract three years ago.
by Lauren T. on Oct 4, 2007 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
by ryan c on Oct 4, 2007 8:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember Greg Maddux
by Gregory Pratt on Oct 4, 2007 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Off-season
With that in mind I propose:
A.) Sell high on Renteria, trade him for a third starter. Spend bucks and make an investment in centerfield.
B.) Sign Glavine for third starter, sell high on Renteria by trading for an outfielder with only a year or two commitment left. At the end of two years, all the elder statesmen will be gone, including the mystery replacement outfielder, and maybe Lillibridge will be converted to center.
C.) Sign Glavine for third starter, hang on to Renteria, let him walk at years end and collect your draft pick(s). Spend bucks and make an investment in centerfield.
D.) Sign Glavine, hang on to Renteria, and trade someone ELSE for a short-term outfield solution with plan of converting Lillibridge, or bringing up some other CF in a few years. Trade chips I see are Scott Thorman, one of Kelly or Esco, one of Brandon Jones or Matt Diaz, or just maybe Chuck James.
Personally, I vote C. What do you think?
by jjschiller on Oct 4, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
re: Off-season
I also think they should and will shop Renteria. If he stays, fine. But to optimize his value, he should be traded while his contract is good and after the year he just had.
So I guess in your scenario, I would vote for A. But I temper that with the fact that the investment I would want in CF is a short term one.
by NorCalAtlFan on Oct 4, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Short term CF
by jjschiller on Oct 5, 2007 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Renteria...
by secondbass on Oct 7, 2007 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe ya'll are trashing AJ
by Chipper on Oct 4, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jones
Andruw Jones is a completely average player. To hell with him and his $18 million.
by bigjoe on Oct 4, 2007 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average?
by Chipper on Oct 4, 2007 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna have to agree with...
by mvandonsel on Oct 5, 2007 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gold Gloves are ...
by Rain Delay on Oct 5, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's one of the best! Plus
by Chipper on Oct 5, 2007 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: jones
Believe you me, it was time for him to go. But I also respect what he gave the organization for the past decade+ and won't denigrate him for that. I wish him the best and I hope whoever the team gets to fill his void is close to the player he was/is.
by NorCalAtlFan on Oct 4, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wrong again, bigjoe...Pay attention!
do the damn research before you go spatting at the mouth.
Andruw Jones Outfield PUTOUTS '98-'07
98- 1st in ML
99- 1st in ML
00-1st in ML
01- 1st in NL
02-1st in NL
03-2nd in NL (behind Juan Pierre who should NEVER be a gold glove candidate due to his extreme rag arm.
04-1st in NL
05-2nd in NL (behind Beltran, but blew him out in outfield assists 11 to 3)
06-1st in NL
07-1st in NL
Don't even try to pull the "fly ball" pitcher argument. Consistent Numbers dont lie. He might have lost a step in his last few years, but he was still the best. If your one of these posters that don't want to admit that you're wrong, fine, but his gold gloves were not earned on pure reputation. one year, could maybe be up for debate ('05), but quit being an a-hole fan. and by the way, kearns has never had more than 20 hr's or 75 rbi's in a season,and he plays a TERRIBLE OUTFIELD, and you're comparing him to a guy who has consistently produce 30 hr 100 rbi seasons for the past 10 years. once again, he had a bad season, but i bet you werent complaining when he carried the team the previous 2 seasons when chipper hit the dl. "TRUST ME ON THIS", you're wrong.
by ryan c on Oct 4, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zone Rating
Good for 7th in the league. Among 8 qualifiers at CF. Thats what I mean when I say he's not getting to as many balls as he once did.
Andruw Jones has been my least favorite Brave for years, because I'm sick of seeing him strike out or ground into a double play in key situations. He's never been an on-base machine, and stopped running for no real reason. He had all the potential to be a 30/30 guy. I hate wasted potential. Andruw could have been Ken Griffey Jr pre-injury. When it comes down to it, I would have rather had Kenny Lofton for all those years.
by bigjoe on Oct 4, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what does zone rating prove?
what really shows zone rating bigjoe? putouts! and to lead the league ONCE again in putouts says it all. kenny lofton is a terrible outfielder and would have given us nothing but 100 games of 40 stolen bases and 90 singles. saying you would rather have kenny lofton manning center shows where you dont value zone rating. your stat history is a walking contradiction. if his zone rating is so poor, then how did he manage to finish 1st in the nl almost every year in putouts? please explain to me how zone rating is calculated? do you even know or are you talking about a stat you know nothing about? your personal vendetta with aj completely overlooks any statistical proof whatsoever. btw, ken griffey jr never had a 30/30 season. his most stolen bases in a year was 24. andruw's career high was 27.
ken griffey jr. through 11 years
398 hr 1262 rbi's .292 ba obp .378 167 sb
andruw through 11 years
368 hr 1117 rbi's .263 ba obp.342 138 sb
so, basically, your telling me there's a HUGE difference in their #'s? by average, jr hit 3 homeruns, 13 rbis, got on base 3% more, and had 3 sb's per year more than andruw in their first 11 years in the bigs. i agree that jr. was a better ballplayer than andruw, but andruw didnt fall to short of the greatest all around outfielder of our time, which i beleive is jr. joe! wrong! wrong! wrong!
by ryan c on Oct 4, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, 1 more thing before i get off my soapbox
that basically makes up for the offensive difference. need anything else?
btw, i think cutting ties with andruw is the right move for this organization, but we have been spoiled in centerfield for the past decade. get over your bitterness joe and face the facts.
by ryan c on Oct 4, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, many comments,
by Chipper on Oct 5, 2007 5:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cf replacement?
by emerson on Oct 7, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ryan c
by ryan c on Oct 8, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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