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Braves Get Soriano

Rafael Soriano, that is, from the Mariners. The Braves and John Schuerholz finally pulled off a trade, and one that strengthens one of the key areas of our team - the bullpen. Soriano is a talented right-handed flame-thrower from the Dominican Replublic. He has struggled with injuries since he first made it to the big leagues back in 2002, part of the reason he was converted from a starter to a reliever.

It is a bit sad to see Horacio Ramirez leave. After having a terrific Spring Training in 2003 he made the team as the fifth starter and amazed everyone by going 12-4. Since then though he has only had one injury-free year, suffering through various injuries in both 2004 and 2006. His biggest injury disappointment was in 2004 when he got off to the best start of any Braves starter by posting an ERA of 2.28 and making eight out of his nine starts quality starts in the first two months of the season before sitting out until September with left shoulder tendonitis. The injury suffered last year was a strained hamstring.

Soriano has spent his share of time on the DL. He was out 20 days in 2002 with a strained right shoulder. In 2004 he was limited by both a strained oblique muscle in Spring Training and then right elbow pain which led to Tommy John surgery on his pitching elbow August 17th. He began making rehab appearances in June of 2005 and was recalled to the Majors in early September. Last year Soriano was enjoying a very productive Major League season when he was struck behind the right ear by a Vladimir Guerrero line drive on August 29th, the Mariners shut him down for the remainder of the season. (Intersetingly, HoRam was also struck by a line drive this year, off the bat of Lance Berkman.)

Soriano will be the power arm in the bullpen we lacked in 2006. Last year he held batters to just a .204 batting average while posting a 1.08 WHIP - lower than any pitcher on the Braves staff except for Bob Wickman. He has long been considered a candidate to be a future closer, but has mainly been used as a setup man in Seattle, collecting just four saves in his big league career.

I would rate this as a VERY GOOD trade for the Braves. We pick up a critical reliever who we will control for two more years before he becomes a free agent, and we traded from a position of strength - left-handed starting pitching. Honestly, I feel we got the better end of this deal. With the prices for even marginal relievers skyrocketing, we secured one of the best in the game for a pitcher who has yet to prove he's anything other than a back of the rotation injury-prone starter. I have a feeling that the Braves are not done tonight. There's a lot of talk about the LaRoche-Gonzalez deal with Pittsburgh as being all but done pending physicals. The Braves may also be trying to leverage the Pirates against the Angels to get more in return.

As a closing note, I said several times that Horacio Ramirez would be the first player traded this winter by the Braves, and darn-it if I wasn't right. I don't know how I knew, I just had a feeling. It's nice to be right every once in a while.

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good post, good trade
I like the way this trade looks. Although HoRam has had flashes of brilliance, he's never quite been able to pull it together, especially over the last two years.

But does this still necessitate the LaRoche for Gonzalez trade? Not that I don't appreciate Gonzalez, but I think LaRoche is someone we need to hang on to. Call it a hunch, but I really think he's gone have all star numbers this year.

by wuky on Dec 6, 2006 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Phils get Garcia
ESPN is reporting that the Phils have traded for Garcia. Looks like the Phils are trying to re-load their starting rotation.

by wuky on Dec 6, 2006 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah,
they sent Gio Rodriguez and Gavin "big flop" Floyd. I've never been a Garcia fan, or a Floyd fan. Good trade for the Phils, though.

by gondeee on Dec 6, 2006 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Not A Floyd Fan?
Not even "Dark Side of the Moon"?

Yeah, that's a groaner. But I'm a little giddy at JS reaching back for his fastball and pantsing some hapless rival GM. I've missed that.

Great trade.

by Piff Bocoroba on Dec 7, 2006 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Check this out...
...the guys over at Lookout Landing, a Seattle Mariners blog, are up in arms about this trade. Check out all those comments, they are really mad at their GM. They also didn't like my comment: "for a pitcher who has yet to prove he's anything other than a back of the rotation injury-prone starter."

I must say, the more I look at this trade the more I think it is an absolute STEAL. Soriano might not be as seasoned, but he seems to have a higher upside than Linebrink or Shields.

Score another one for Schuerholz - boy, does he ever maximize value in trades. Now we just need to trade LaRoche for Figgins and Kotchman, and dump Giles on someone (maybe we can get the Angels to take Giles and give us Shields).

by gondeee on Dec 6, 2006 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Congratulations :(
You guys just got ONE HELL of a closer.  Just pencil him in now if he doesn't bust up his arm.  I think you guys absolutely took Bavasi to the cleaners.

Please, Please, Please tell me something about Horacio besides the fact that he is a lefty.  We need some hope at this point...  What is his absolutely best case scenario?

by manyoso on Dec 6, 2006 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Horacio
In the spacius SafeCo he could win 10-14 games with 4.5 ERA in a full healthy season.  A good middle rotation guy.

by jack dein on Dec 6, 2006 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

The Trade
I like this trade as well.  I hope that it means we can keep LaRoche (unless we get a super offer)and basically our team intact.  Having already added Wickman and now Soriano, this team is vastly superior to the one which was not competitive during the first half of the season.

Even though we need to improve starting pitching, I would not be unhappy if JS held off for awhile.

by Stephen @ Talking Chop on Dec 6, 2006 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

You Guys
Have to check out the poll on the side of the mariners blog: http://www.lookoutlanding.com/

I almost wet myself when i read that. I guess gond was right. They're taking this pretty hard :-)

.....Matt

by yondaime4 on Dec 7, 2006 12:59 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks
Matt--Thanks.  The Mariner's blog is a Joy to read.  

by Stephen @ Talking Chop on Dec 7, 2006 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I...
...laughed out LOUD when I saw that poll.

by gondeee on Dec 7, 2006 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Buffaloing Bavasi
In yet another turn for the worst by Bill Bavasi, loyal M's fans are in disbelief.

24 hours ago M's fans were salivating at the thought of a rotation that included both Jason Schmidt and a potential 3-way deal with Atlanta and San Francisco, one that would send out Rafael Soriano to the Braves and Richie Sexson to the Giants in return for Adam LaRoche and Tim Hudson, a slam dunk for the M's.

And we get this.  Trading a fireballing, go-to with full confidence dominating 8th or 9th inning guy for yet another left-handed junk baller.  Sure, the front office probably justifies it that we need a starter more than a reliever.

Braves fans will fall in love with Rafael Soriano.  He's got a lanky, easy, silky-smooth delivery that doesn't make him look like he's throwing that hard at all.  Then he'll hit the spot, you look at the radar gun.  97.  Strike 3.  When he's on, he's on, and he's rarely off.

Rafael Soriano was the M's best trade chip going into this offseason.  If something big was going to go down, Soriano would have been the guy to go out.

And that's why M's fans are taking it hard.  I wish Rafael Soriano all the best of luck.

by Egaas on Dec 7, 2006 2:43 AM EST reply actions  

I feel terrible for HoRam.
I read this quote from HoRam

"I knew it was a possibility, but it's still shocking to me," said Ramirez, 27, after learning of the trade from a reporter. "This is really all I know in professional baseball -- the Braves are the ones who gave me the opportunity in '97. But it's a business. What can you say?"

I feel terrible for the guy.  He always had a great attitude.  Never complained.  Gave 100%.  Almost single-handedly saved the Braves pitching staff when he was a rookie.

I know it is a business but I hate to see him go.

Good luck and success to him and his family.

by dave @ Talking Chop on Dec 7, 2006 4:16 AM EST reply actions  

Man!
There's still a chance that this trade could be shanghaied by HoRam's medicals. The Seattle doctors have yet to come back with their results, and judging from early reaction Bevasi might change his mind. Keep your fingers crossed Braves fans that the deal gets done, becaue I know that Mariners fans are keeping their fingers crossed for a different outcome. Apparently official word should come sometime today.

by gondeee on Dec 7, 2006 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

Apparently
The M's doctors still haven't landed. They had left the meetings for whatever reason and had to fly back.
.....Matt

by yondaime4 on Dec 7, 2006 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

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